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Is there are law to protect car warranty for DIY oil changes?

In the picture in question, at least three and possibly all four snapped studs are shiny. This was an installation error. Probably too many ugga duggas when installing the wheel (or not enough and it was banging back and forth as you can see threads cut into the rotor). Time from first indication/symptom to detached wheel wouldn't have been very long at all.

Bi-annual safety will catch many brakes/ball joints/bearings/tire wear etc that fail gradually over an extended period.

I would have little problem with the safety if it wasn't abused. Based on prior experience it will be. From an alternate viewpoint, commercial vehicles are already subject to frequent inspections and ~30% are taken off the road in roadside blitzes. wtf? They degraded that much since the inspection or they are getting bogus inspections to run crap?
An 1800 Goldwing made it from Arkansas to Hamilton ON before two rear wheel studs broke due to insufficient torque. Fortunately we were able to find the couple a replacement final drive.
 
There is a USA YouTube video where it is claimed that Toyota wants to charge for using you key fob. It didn't sound like a satire. The same for using your heated seats, basically a subscription service.

"Toyota Plans to Charge You to Use Your Key Fob" Steve Lehto

This isn't like sat radio or a communication system that requires input from a second party.


I don't know for sure, but my guess is the subscription service is likely to enable features that require cellular access, and that's what the fee goes to pay for - similar to GM's OnStar system. Things like remote start, unlock, check status, etc. from anywhere in the world, not just beside your car. In that case it makes sense, and again, my guess is that people who are making videos about this aren't telling the whole story or don't actually understand what the service gets you.


EDIT: And here you go:


"We should explain that there are two ways to remote start Toyota vehicles. One is using the fob, a chip in the key sending a radio signals to a chip in the car to let the car know to start. This one relies only on proximity communication between key and car; typically, as long as the fob chip, fob battery, and vehicle chip are in good working order, all should be well. But that's not the case here, which we'll get to. The second way is by using Toyota's Remote Connect suite of services that costs either $8 per month or $80 per year. These services operate through a cell or wi-fi connection and include remote start, finding your car in a parking lot or finding PHEV charging locations, monitoring teen drivers, and locking or unlocking the car."
 
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I don't know for sure, but my guess is the subscription service is likely to enable features that require cellular access, and that's what the fee goes to pay for - similar to GM's OnStar system. Things like remote start, unlock, check status, etc. from anywhere in the world, not just beside your car. In that case it makes sense, and again, my guess is that people who are making videos about this aren't telling the whole story or don't actually understand what the service gets you.


EDIT: And here you go:


"We should explain that there are two ways to remote start Toyota vehicles. One is using the fob, a chip in the key sending a radio signals to a chip in the car to let the car know to start. This one relies only on proximity communication between key and car; typically, as long as the fob chip, fob battery, and vehicle chip are in good working order, all should be well. But that's not the case here, which we'll get to. The second way is by using Toyota's Remote Connect suite of services that costs either $8 per month or $80 per year. These services operate through a cell or wi-fi connection and include remote start, finding your car in a parking lot or finding PHEV charging locations, monitoring teen drivers, and locking or unlocking the car."
I was wondering the same but the need to heat the seats remotely is a stretch to me. I also wonder if unauthorized people could access the unlock and start service.
 
I was wondering the same but the need to heat the seats remotely is a stretch to me. I also wonder if unauthorized people could access the unlock and start service.
Toyotas and Lexus are apparently super easy to steal if you’ve got the right tech. My NextDoor app all I keep seeing is ‘stolen Lexus, stolen Highlander’ threads.

Toyota knows there’s a problem, but it’s more lucrative to let the car get stolen, insurance pays out, and buys comes back for car #2-3-N until insurance stops paying out or gets prohibitively expensive for that model.
 
Can anyone cite a specific law that protects DIY oil changes from dealers not honouring their warranties?
Ideal Honda / Honda Canada will not validate Costco oil changes because it does NOT show the VIN on the service number
What's the best way to pursue this? thanks
W** is wrong with Honda and Toyota deAlerships +_+
 
If you buy a car that has the subscription features but don't sign on, the module is still there to fail. So you pay to fix something you didn't want or use.
Like going through the two blank radio spots when your in a car with SiriusXM thats not activated and you have to push the button 4 times to get from AM (sports) top FM
Our life is hard here in southern Ontario
 
An old friend just bought a fully loaded 2021 Tacoma. On delivery he discovered that a LOT of the options are activated remotely. I tried telling him to just use an alternate addy, but he refuses. So he owns a fully loaded basic model. Lol.
 
These safety checks will not work. Hot safeties will become more common

In the past. Multiple Ticket for full system including headers. Put the stock stuff back on. Went to court showed car was normal ($120 safety certificate) and court dismissed everything 🙄.

Put the system back on and never got another ticket.

But they are much stricter now I hear..
 
These safety checks will not work. Hot safeties will become more common

Make the penalty strict enough and it won’t happen. Few techs and shops are likely to risk their individual licenses and livelihood to make a couple bucks.
 
Make the penalty strict enough and it won’t happen. Few techs and shops are likely to risk their individual licenses and livelihood to make a couple bucks.

Doubt it. Look at our ROADS
 
Make the penalty strict enough and it won’t happen. Few techs and shops are likely to risk their individual licenses and livelihood to make a couple bucks.
I expect far more extortion (eg. forced tire changes even though they exceed required tread) than bad safeties (eg. ignore failing items and issue the cert).
 
Doubt it. Look at our ROADS

A high profile story that came to mind, SPECIAL REPORT: Technician on trial - Auto Service World

I expect far more extortion (eg. forced tire changes even though they exceed required tread) than bad safeties (eg. ignore failing items and issue the cert).

There are some grey items in the regulations that are mostly at the tech’s discretion that could be abused but they are few. Most techs and shops take safeties very seriously and go by the letter of the regulations.

No one wants to risk a visit from the ministry, there are huge fines at risk and worst case scenario the tech can lose his license and the shop their garage license.

Saying that, there is a bike tech most of us know for an easy safety…
 
There are some grey items in the regulations that are mostly at the tech’s discretion that could be abused but they are few. Most techs and shops take safeties very seriously and go by the letter of the regulations.

No one wants to risk a visit from the ministry, there are huge fines at risk and worst case scenario the tech can lose his license and the shop their garage license.

Saying that, there is a bike tech most of us know for an easy safety…
I've heard of shops getting in trouble for passing failing vehicles but I haven't heard of a shop getting in trouble for failing vehicles that pass unless work is performed to juice the bill.
 

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