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Is there are law to protect car warranty for DIY oil changes?

Roadghost said:
If they're planning biennial inspections it sounds like someone is getting bribe money under the table. Mechanical failure is a relatively rare cause of accidents. I'm sure they'll use the panacea of a few wheel separations as justification, but I'm dead set against it. Heck, we just got rid of the stupid E-testing. I'm not interested in letting those crooks get my car into a garage under a corrupt government mandate.
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Wheels separating is an interesting one. That is probably one of the more common mechanical failures that is dangerous. The chance that it would be caught in a bi-annual inspection is exceedingly close to zero (you need to have the inspection very shortly after a swap and you needed to screw up the swap).
 
I understand the issue here, but as a previous customer of Ideal, their price on oil changes was actually better than Costco or diy option. I remember paying $57 for OW20 synthetic oil and filter service with free car wash. No messy driveway, good cup of coffee and washed vehicle. I had a solid service record and they were always super easy going with approving warranty related work. Sometimes good relationship with local dealer is more important than saving couple bucks. After warranty, I do all the service myself.


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Roadghost said:
If they're planning biennial inspections it sounds like someone is getting bribe money under the table. Mechanical failure is a relatively rare cause of accidents. I'm sure they'll use the panacea of a few wheel separations as justification, but I'm dead set against it. Heck, we just got rid of the stupid E-testing. I'm not interested in letting those crooks get my car into a garage under a corrupt government mandate.
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I have mixed emotions due to the costs passed onto lower income drivers. I also wonder about the little things that might rate a failure, like oil leaks. R&R a main seal for $2000 when the car is only worth $2000.
 
GreyGhost said:
Wheels separating is an interesting one. That is probably one of the more common mechanical failures that is dangerous. The chance that it would be caught in a bi-annual inspection is exceedingly close to zero (you need to have the inspection very shortly after a swap and you needed to screw up the swap).
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Cars don't vote and no politician is going after the real cause of collisions, the bad driver.

Wheels coming of due to loose nuts, in my limited experience a car gets a few miles before separation.
 
Add to the breakdown situation the MTO Tow Zone Pilot project. The idea is to tow inoperative vehicles before they create traffic jams. 400 series highways in the GTA get regulated tows to, I assume, impound lots. Rates are supposed to be controlled but I can't find numbers.
 
nobbie48 said:
Add to the breakdown situation the MTO Tow Zone Pilot project. The idea is to tow inoperative vehicles before they create traffic jams. 400 series highways in the GTA get regulated tows to, I assume, impound lots. Rates are supposed to be controlled but I can't find numbers.
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Didn't they try this a few years ago?
 
GreyGhost said:
Apparently Onterrible is going to require bi-annual safeties for all vehicles beginning not that far in the future.
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I don't really have an issue with this.

Anyone who spends a lot of time on the roads sees the junk out there. The fact that a car needs to be safetied at the time of purchase, but then theoretically never again if it doesn't change hands, is a bit nuts when you think of it.

Someone who has an old beater parked in their back 40 that hasn't been on the road in decades can just go put a new sticker and insurance on it and they're off to the races. Tell me how that's safe?

Heck, my sons own car almost certainly wouldn't pass, and honestly, I'd be OK with that - it needs to be retired, and he has the means to buy something better...he just doesn't want to because he thinks his current car is "just fine", and he's not a car guy at all and really has no idea or desire to spend anything more than the bare minimum to keep the engine running and the wheels turning.
 
In Nova Scotia its every 2 years.
At police, have you been drinking checks, half the tickets handed out are for fake or no safety sticker.
 
I see a surprising number of cars with CV joint fails and one tire toed in when the tie rod falls off.
Once we went to the premanently lubed steering components , nobody greases the front end, so nobody sees a failing tie rod or center link.

An annual check could help this. Sorry @nobbie48 , low income drivers that cant afford to maintain a vehicle? we got busses for that.
 
crankcall said:
I see a surprising number of cars with CV joint fails and one tire toed in when the tie rod falls off.
Once we went to the premanently lubed steering components , nobody greases the front end, so nobody sees a failing tie rod or center link.

An annual check could help this. Sorry @nobbie48 , low income drivers that cant afford to maintain a vehicle? we got busses for that.
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Check out our public transit system. If it got any worse we could eliminate the subsidized housing crisis. Work at work and live on a bus.

I know people that spend four hours a day on commuting.

Re CV joints, I was at the bottom of parking garage ramp and heard a sound like a bad shift. Then ball bearings started rolling down the ramp. Car at the top was pigeon towed.
 
PrivatePilot said:
Heck, my sons own car almost certainly wouldn't pass, and honestly, I'd be OK with that - it needs to be retired, and he has the means to buy something better...he just doesn't want to because he thinks his current car is "just fine", and he's not a car guy at all and really has no idea or desire to spend anything more than the bare minimum to keep the engine running and the wheels turning.
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I wonder what % of road accidents/collisions are actually caused by "mechanical failure" of any given part/system of an automobile.
I'm betting it's not significant.
 
I used to drive a tow truck , I’d say under 1% of what I saw caused an accident, I did pick up quite a few cars with broken components, but usually dead mid turn or on the side of the road .


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Hack said:
I wonder what % of road accidents/collisions are actually caused by "mechanical failure" of any given part/system of an automobile.
I'm betting it's not significant.
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Ages ago I was out for a drive with my then girlfriend and kept hearing an odd noise from the front left. When we got to my brother's place I wanted to look further so pulled the front left wheel to see behind it and the tie rod end pulled apart. The car was about two years old so they may not have caught the flaw. That's the only thing I've had happen in 50 years of driving.

There are old car potential problems.

Tires I would guess as #1

Hazed windshields on high mileage cars make night visibility poor.

LED Lights last a long time but are very expensive when they do fail.

Even a clapped out car can be relatively safe if the driver has the brains to be cautious.

One sad thing I see is subsidized housing and some residents are driving used luxury vehicles. I can understand needing something to make yourself feel good about yourself but when your MB needs a new switch MB doesn't care that you got a deal on the car or what you earn.

I occasionally pipe dream about buying a 30-40 year old Rolls Royce. They are usually low mileage and in good shape. They tend to be about the price of a new Camry but when something breaks you pay for another Camry.
 
I haven't been able to find anything online about the MTO proposing periodic safety inspections for all vehicles - only something about harmonising the emissions and safety inspections for commercial (yellow-sticker) vehicles. Can anyone substantiate this?

AFAIK any such change would require a change to the Highway Traffic Act. I scanned the current bills in front of the legislature, and there's nothing of the sort that I can see. If it's something under study at the MTO at a proposal stage, is there anything to be found anywhere?

Given the upcoming provincial election, this is not going to happen until after the election anyhow, and then, who knows what will happen.
 
Our 2020 Odyssey went in for its first oil change and the dealer let the oil from the filter location pour down into the suspension where it coated the underside of the van on the drive home and then drip onto our brand new garage floor.
I’ll be doing all the oil changes myself from now on and just keeping receipts for the supplies.
 
I would hazard a guess and say that a tire puncture due to road debris would cause accidents as often as mechanical failures do. Tires coming loose do happen, and especially often in areas where summer/winter tires are switched over.
 
Renboy said:
I would hazard a guess and say that a tire puncture due to road debris would cause accidents as often as mechanical failures do. Tires coming loose do happen, and especially often in areas where summer/winter tires are switched over.
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Tire problem has got to be the most common cause of a mechanical-failure-related crash.

An inspection every two years isn't going to find the spike lying on the road in wait for your tire to hit it precisely 14 months 3 days 5 hours 44 minutes after inspection causing an immediate blow-out. It also isn't going to find the wheel bolt that you forgot to tighten in your driveway the winter after having the inspection done. The tires that were brand-new at the time of inspection, won't be by the time of the next one. Same with brake pads and rotors.

Most vehicles nowadays complain to the driver if tire pressure is out of spec. (Cars and trucks do. It's required. Motorcycles aren't required to, although some have TPMS anyhow.)

Not everyone buys new TPMS for their winter rims. If the TPMS warning is on because you didn't feel like spending an extra $600 on your winter set, or didn't take the car to the dealer and spend even more money (and time) there twice per year because your vehicle doesn't automatically sort out its TPMS after swapping rims (not all of them do!), does that fail inspection?

I understand the motivation for periodic inspections, but to me it seems like a search for the guilty and punishment of the innocent for a more-or-less non-existent problem that won't be solved anyhow by doing this.
 
Riddle me this, in NS I passed a safety with a full titanium leo vince exhaust on one bike and a full S/S yosh on the other, no cats. But the leo's carbon fiber mount eliminates the rear foot peg, so that wont pass. Foot peg must be there to pass even with solo seat on. Stick a foot peg on there and its all good again. No front reflectors fails, no cat pass. You can't make this **** up.
 
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