While I don’t believe we’ll see armed conflict…
We have a snowball chance in hell of winning that fight.
Is Canada next?
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We have a snowball chance in hell of winning that fight.
New York city police have more bodies and probably more weapons and vehicles than Canadian military.
Mad Mike
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LCBO would remove stock then dump it into foreign markets.
Over 10% of US name-branded spirit production is purchased by Ontario. A stop buy would send a shock wave through the industry, dumping 3 months of inventory your largest customer's inventory into the market would be excruciating.
US Bourbon makers are struggling as it is, this could collapse or seriously hurt them.
Jack Daniels (Brown-Forman)
Maker's Mark (Suntory)
Mad Mike
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I think a lot of Canadians gulp down the media's kool-aid when it comes to understanding of day to day life.
Canadians characterize Americans as loud, selfish, materialistic, bullies who are focused on patriotism while being blind to international things. Many regions of Canada view other regions of Canada with similar levels of contempt.
Read thru the hundreds of ride reports you can find on this site that chart ride experiences through the USA, Western Canada, or Quebec -- see how many times people praise the experience and the interactions they had with locals. Then look at some of the political postings from those same people. Canadian dummies.
If you want to really understand Americans, spend time with them. You might find things surprisingly different than what you learned off CNN or Facebook-U.
CNN says Canada and Mexico are the first and third (not sure which is which) largest supliers of steel and aluminum to the us.
That's gotta hurt.
The "scarier" it gets in the states, the further away from Conservatives people will flock...
PP's difficulty level just went from "Easy" to "Medium" and it might get harder if he's seen as someone who would support Trumpian policies, especially with the incessant talks of 51st state.
While as @Mad Mike pointed out, day to day we might be very similar, there are fundamental values (around healthcare, gun ownership, social interaction/politeness) that are not on the same level at all.
PP's difficulty level just went from "Easy" to "Medium" and it might get harder if he's seen as someone who would support Trumpian policies, especially with the incessant talks of 51st state.
While as @Mad Mike pointed out, day to day we might be very similar, there are fundamental values (around healthcare, gun ownership, social interaction/politeness) that are not on the same level at all.
FWIW with only one exception (facilitated by my stupidity) I've never had a bad interaction with Yanks while travelling in the states.
When the Squeeze and I toured in the US on the Wing people were always friendly and willing to help. When ever we stopped and had the map out people would pull out their phone and try to help. (oddly we hardly ever got anything useful from these folks - most people cannot place themselves on a map - but they tried)
When the Squeeze and I toured in the US on the Wing people were always friendly and willing to help. When ever we stopped and had the map out people would pull out their phone and try to help. (oddly we hardly ever got anything useful from these folks - most people cannot place themselves on a map - but they tried)
... and you're telling us they're not?
Most of the rest of Canada views Toronto with contempt... us with "the center of the universe" attitude and all... about the same as they look upon americans.
I don't know anyone that hates AMERICANS... it's America they hate. The people are nice enough, it's their government... the jingoism gets old quick though (Don't EVER try to tell an american THEY didn't win WW2, it won't go well).
sburns
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I dunno, I feel these "views" are based on gossip, and they just live on as such because that's what people do. I've not met anyone who actually thinks these things. Yeah there is usually a idiotic outlier.
But I think everyone can agree we hate our gov, unless I'm the outlier here...
But I think everyone can agree we hate our gov, unless I'm the outlier here...
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Mad Mike
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Not sure about this. Methinks Canadians will pick a slugger over a hug-it-outer when the time comes.
I think his level of difficulty has remained the same.
You might not have a pan-Canadian view on that. step outside the GTA and have a chat about guns -- they don't scare most of the country. On health care. Have a chat about health care with my neighbor who spent 3 years hobbled while the system sorted out his knee surgery.
PP will be just fine -- there isn't enough time, cash, or maple syrup to make a Liberal superhero before the next election.
Mad Mike
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Were they doing that while waving around their Glocks or AR-15s?
I'm on my way south to get me another heaping shovelful of America. I might even try to fit in by drinking x-large sodas (diet), driving my neighbor's F250 dually to the grocery store, I won't worry about gas mileage on $2.50/gallon gas. I'll wear my flag-themed T-shirts when I'm fine dining at IHOP or Taco Bell. When my wife is shopping at Target, I'll be in the parking lot discussing freedom and where to find the best burger in the world - loudly with a few double-named rednecks.
sburns
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I dunno I think before Trump reared his dumb tariff head, PP had a clear victory. This resurgence in Canadian pride, and the liberals electing a new leader, might invigorate the party and the public, and give PP a bit more of a race, while they pull on the national pride and distance themselves from Trump or anything like him.
Hopefully this is not the case and people are still fed up with the libs.
Hopefully this is not the case and people are still fed up with the libs.
Mad Mike
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I guess time will tell. Mull this over - Today's Vegas odds.
Odds to Win Next Canadian Election
| Party | Odds |
| Conservatives | -4000 |
| Liberals | +1600 |
| NDP | +7500 |
| Any Other Party | +10000 |
Election odds don’t get much uglier than this for the Liberals. The latest odds from FanDuel list the Conservatives as staggering favorites in the 2025 federal election. That amounts to a 97.56% implied win probability
Place a $1000 on the PC will get you a payout of $250 if they win.
Place the same bet on the Liberals and your payout is $16,000.
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The better option would be to keep it. Once the dust settles (and the prices are higher) restock the shelves with old stock and let the distillers get no orders for X months from one of if not their biggest customers.
Jack Daniels = Kentucky ≠ Bourbon. It's sour mash.
jdmsteR
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You forgot a zero
DownUnder
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I think this is working against Canada to tell you the truth. The video of canadians Booing a 15yr old disabled girl is being played all over the states and making people who didn't have a stance on Canada actually want to see us hurt...
Mad Mike
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She is not disabled.
And I'm not for booing anthems, knee taking or flag burning as a form of free speech at sporting events.
I'm not saying it should be illegal, but I find it uncouth, disrespectful, and feel it sets the bar too low for Canadians.
Mad Mike
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They are - that's what makes them Americans!
Yup.
Maybe deep down Canadians are Anarchists? We seem to hate our own gov'ts too.
Remind them that they only won half of WWII and WWI. They lost the war of 1812. Korea is a truce. They couldn't win against Cuba with the Bay of Pigs incursion. They got tossed out of Vietnam and Afghanistan.
They did win the Civil War but it's hard to lose when you're fighting yourself.
They did win the revolutionary war, thank God, or we'd be stuck with them.
