Internet troll gets jail time

[FiReSTaRT]

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Wow... I can't believe how casual we are with doing away with freedom of speech. Was what he did tasteless? Hell yeah... Did he deserve an asskicking or 4? **** yeah.. But there's no chance in hell he should be sent to jail and get a criminal record just for being a ******.

 

[Tornique]

Honestly there is no reason to send this guy to jail.

Just give the victims of his posts his address. Things will work out naturally


Your actions have consequences! Who knew! What a P.O.S.

 

[Rob MacLennan]

Wow... I can't believe how casual we are with doing away with freedom of speech. Was what he did tasteless? Hell yeah... Did he deserve an asskicking or 4? **** yeah.. But there's no chance in hell he should be sent to jail and get a criminal record just for being a ******.

Shouting fire in a crowded theatre exception.

Frequently, when someone does something warranting a beating, it also deserves some jail time.

 

[Venom01]

Wow... I can't believe how casual we are with doing away with freedom of speech. Was what he did tasteless? Hell yeah... Did he deserve an asskicking or 4? **** yeah.. But there's no chance in hell he should be sent to jail and get a criminal record just for being a ******.

+1000000000

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[Moreno636]

Shouting fire in a crowded theatre exception.

Frequently, when someone does something warranting a beating, it also deserves some jail time.

Uhhh I dont see how this analogy fits. Shouting fire in a crowded theater is tantamount to causing a stampede which will cause people to either die or get seriously injured. This ****** never put anybody's life in danger.

 

[FiReSTaRT]

Uhhh I dont see how this analogy fits. Shouting fire in a crowded theater is tantamount to causing a stampede which will cause people to either die or get seriously injured. This ****** never put anybody's life in danger.

+1 The troll was just a prick who hurt some feelings.. We already live in an overcriminalized society, and the UK is orders of magnitude worse. If you start throwing people in jail for being pricks, very few people are gonna stay on the outside.

 

[AdRath]

+1 The troll was just a prick who hurt some feelings.. We already live in an overcriminalized society, and the UK is orders of magnitude worse. If you start throwing people in jail for being pricks, very few people are gonna stay on the outside.

Is this 'Outside' a world with a few less pricks? Sounds pretty fine to me.

This is a case of pure harassement. We have laws that say you can't go kick the **** out of someone who insults dead people. Justice has to be served. The laws protect those who can't just 'kick the **** out of' someone who stalks and harasses them.

I'm going to save my outrage about laws intruding on freedoms for a worthy cause not this piece of **** here.

 

[FiReSTaRT]

I'm going to save my outrage about laws intruding on freedoms for a worthy cause not this piece of **** here.

You see.. There is a very ugly kicker about standing up for human rights.. You have to defend them even for the worst scum of the earth.. Unfortunately, not too many people have that level of conviction.

 

[Rob MacLennan]

Uhhh I dont see how this analogy fits. Shouting fire in a crowded theater is tantamount to causing a stampede which will cause people to either die or get seriously injured. This ****** never put anybody's life in danger.

I suppose that depends upon how you feel about inflicting mental anguish on people who have already pretty much hit rock bottom.

 

[toybm]

So then, can you be arrested for laughing at someones funeral ?

I'm not saying i agree with whats he's doing, but there shouldnt be a law against bad taste. what about comics who make jokes in reference to the holocaust ? or the titanic ? or jonestown ?

( they would be repeated as well, if in the comic's repetoire )

btw, posting the face on thomas the tank engine, kinda funny lol

Comics make jokes about Jonestown???

 

[Rob MacLennan]

Comics make jokes about Jonestown???

Where do you think the expression "drank the Kool-Aid" came from?

 

[D23]

I suppose that depends upon how you feel about inflicting mental anguish on people who have already pretty much hit rock bottom.

I would have to agree with everything Rob said so far..

People are free to say whatever they want but you are still responsible for what you say. The internet doesn't make it a free forum to do whatever you want and not suffer the consequences if someone is smart enough to find you. Your words are your words and it doesn't matter if it's typed, written or said out loud...

You reap what you sew and this guy made malicious attacks against grieving people from a cowards vantage point.

If you posted this same **** about victims of 911 you would be in Guantanamo with a lead pipe up your ***.

 

[Deimos]

Only in the England....

 

[FiReSTaRT]

People are free to say whatever they want but you are still responsible for what you say. The internet doesn't make it a free forum to do whatever you want and not suffer the consequences if someone is smart enough to find you.

But those consequences should not involve the criminal justice system. Last time I checked, being a prick and a coward should not preclude someone from traveling abroad. Otherwise, there wouldn't be too many politicians allowed to travel.

You reap what you sew and this guy made malicious attacks against grieving people from a cowards vantage point.

Agreed in principle even though, again.. No criminal justice system for free speech

If you posted this same **** about victims of 911 you would be in Guantanamo with a lead pipe up your ***.

Actually you wouldn't.. For all their faults and oppression, the Yanks aren't nearly as bad as the British fascist surveillance society (you know that country where everyone has a camera or three up their rectum and filming police abuse in an act of terrorism). Hell, in the US you have wackos protesting at fallen soldiers' funerals and they even get police protection from righteously outraged attendees.

Bottom line - mental anguish should not involve criminal charges. The criminal justice system is already getting too involved in our lives for a reasonable person's comfort.

 

[Fingolfin]

The guy obviously has issues and should get some help for them but what the hell was he charged with? Under no circumstances should we be putting people in jail for hurting feelings or being insensitive


I honestly expect nothing less from the UK, that country has been going downhill for a while now. Ironically enough, if you are from a minority group and you riot in the street nothing happens...

how does this relate to rioting and being a minority at all? and last time I checked the rioting in england was by mainly non-minorities

and nothing happening to them...

 

[Fingolfin]

Agreed in principle even though, again.. No criminal justice system for free speech



Actually you wouldn't.. For all their faults and oppression, the Yanks aren't nearly as bad as the British fascist surveillance society (you know that country where everyone has a camera or three up their rectum and filming police abuse in an act of terrorism). Hell, in the US you have wackos protesting at fallen soldiers' funerals and they even get police protection from righteously outraged attendees.

Bottom line - mental anguish should not involve criminal charges. The criminal justice system is already getting too involved in our lives for a reasonable person's comfort.

free speech has limits, at a point it becomes harrasement (as rob said already). whats that point?

 

[RockerGuy]

free speech has limits, at a point it becomes harrasement (as rob said already). whats that point?

Precisely, I can't go about writing letters to the Prime Minister saying I'll kill him

 

[FiReSTaRT]

Precisely, I can't go about writing letters to the Prime Minister saying I'll kill him

Death threats (whether they're aimed at the PM or any other person) pose a security risk. Depending on their credibility they can require a police response. Being a prick may make people feel bad, but it's not like they can rationally fear for their lives because somebody is being insensitive.

One day, I was trimming some bushes in the front yard. Some random dude passing by got agitated over it, insulted me and swore at me. Nobody likes to be insulted, but he wasn't trespassing on my property and I saw absolutely no need to call the cops because some random prick told me to go **** myself. There is absolutely no difference between what he did and what the troll did. The families had public access "areas" on the Internet inviting comments about their loved ones. Just because somebody posted comments that don't jive with the general sympathy messages doesn't mean that the person should get jailed.

 

[Rob MacLennan]

Did that random dude come up to your door everyday, for three weeks, to tell you to go screw yourself? Did he pretend to be someone you knew and call you on the phone, everyday? It's nothing alike.

 

[Moreno636]

Did that random dude come up to your door everyday, for three weeks, to tell you to go screw yourself? Did he pretend to be someone you knew and call you on the phone, everyday? It's nothing alike.

See this makes more sense to me than the death threats. I think its completely fine for the dbag to go to jail when the legal case can be made that internet harassment is no different than real world harassment. There needs to be a distinction between free speech and harassment, and in this case I believe the dbag did cross that line.

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