In case you were wondering about those big scoots.....

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DoubleJ said:
That was only half the story, where is the other Burgman clone .
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This one?

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as I was saying about the future....:D

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New Honda Integra - DCT

Honda Integra 700 Review

Is it motorcycle or scooter? That is a question we were asked many times over. In the end you needn't worry, the Integra can be anything you want it to be.
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http://scootercommunity.com.au/blog.../archive/2012/06/12/honda-integra-review.aspx

Fair review tho the guy has never played with a Burgman 650 so the fun with sports automatic is new to him.

Still this is a good motor and tranny and incredible gas mileage.
Suspension should be better than the Burgman 650 and add top and side cases for intermediate tourer.

I can bet with the weight down low and the flat torque curve this is a hoot in the twisties.

Honda still sticks with a single front brake - not enough in my view for a bike this weight.
Still a good update on the Silverwing which had it's quirks.

Not a bad looker either and lots of protection for commuting.

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MacDoc said:
as I was saying about the future....:D

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New Honda Integra - DCT



http://scootercommunity.com.au/blog.../archive/2012/06/12/honda-integra-review.aspx

Fair review tho the guy has never played with a Burgman 650 so the fun with sports automatic is new to him.

Still this is a good motor and tranny and incredible gas mileage.
Suspension should be better than the Burgman 650 and add top and side cases for intermediate tourer.

I can bet with the weight down low and the flat torque curve this is a hoot in the twisties.

Honda still sticks with a single front brake - not enough in my view for a bike this weight.
Still a good update on the Silverwing which had it's quirks.

Not a bad looker either and lots of protection for commuting.

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Same engine as the honda nc700x?
 
That sucks - what's the big deal putting a few with KM instrumentation on the boat. Same as most of the world.
 
It's a shame, really. They improved on virtually every shortcoming the Silverwing had. It (the Integra) has the makings of a real class leader. No idea why Honda won't release it in this market.
 
shewie said:
It's a shame, really. They improved on virtually every shortcoming the Silverwing had. It (the Integra) has the makings of a real class leader. No idea why Honda won't release it in this market.
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They likely perceive it as a non starter here. They're likely right; it wouldn't sell with the necessary volume.
 
The bike is already made - seriously dumb *** move by Honda not to compete in Canada in a market segment that is growing.

But they think there is a market for this

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MacDoc said:
The bike is already made - seriously dumb *** move by Honda not to compete in Canada in a market segment that is growing.

But they think there is a market for this

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The Canadian market is largely immaterial. As a whole country, we buy fewer motorcycles than one American State. As there is a market for large bore cruisers, in the US, the shipping costs to Canada become a non issue. For maybe a couple of dozen sales of a mega-scooter the costs for certification and shipping aren't worth it.

The adventure touring and commuter bike markets, on the other hand, may well support the two other NC series bikes, as they're a much larger market segment.
 
Rob MacLennan said:
The Canadian market is largely immaterial. As a whole country, we buy fewer motorcycles than one American State. As there is a market for large bore cruisers, in the US, the shipping costs to Canada become a non issue. For maybe a couple of dozen sales of a mega-scooter the costs for certification and shipping aren't worth it.

The adventure touring and commuter bike markets, on the other hand, may well support the two other NC series bikes, as they're a much larger market segment.
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I'm still amazed that we have any selection of maxi-scoots at all, nevermind the Silverwing, TWO Burgmans, T-max and Majesty. The Integra would be a good addition to the market; that engine sounds pretty cool. Maybe if the BMW C650 sells well they might be tempted to offer it here.

Kawaski seems notably absent from the list. They've got that nice p-twin used in the Ninja 650/Versys 650 to work with as well. Or maybe a reto-ish styled one with the w800 motor.
 
I think I see Honda's strategy - I forgot about this

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and tricked out

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This is the DCT version that hardly shows in the description.

Your Ticket to Adventure.

Available: Summer 2012

Honda’s new NC700X is a real breath of fresh air in today’s world of specialized motorcycles, a new concept in streetbikes, and one that puts the FUN in Functional. During the week it’s an awesome commuter. On the weekend it lets you go exploring in the country, or carve up a twisty canyon road. Light, nimble, and with an engine that offers a generous helping of useable torque, it’s all wrapped up in a package that’s big enough for longer rides, but not a handful in tight traffic or in a parking lot. And to sweeten the deal, it’s even available in two versions: one model features a conventional six-speed, manual-clutch transmission, while a second version is available with the latest generation of Honda’s exclusive automatic Dual Clutch Transmission (DCT). Plus, the DCT version comes with Honda’s revolutionary Combined ABS!
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a dual sport automatic that I can configure how I want.....hmmmmm - time for a Honda dealer trip I think.
 
MacDoc said:
I think I see Honda's strategy - I forgot about this



and tricked out

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This is the DCT version that hardly shows in the description.



a dual sport automatic that I can configure how I want.....hmmmmm - time for a Honda dealer trip I think.
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I'm more a fan of the "S" than the "X".
 

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The line is blurred between big scoots and something like the NC700x and the big Aprilla as well.
Both have storage and automatic transmissions.
The Burgman is geared to touring - the X will do a bit more dual sport which I do in Aus on a KLR650.

If you've never spun a sports auto bike through the twisties you don't know what you are missing. It's moving that way, it's way easier on my hands and in traffic yet I don't miss a thing in the twisties - in fact it lets me concentrate on handling and braking never giving a thought to shifting.

As I mentioned early in the this thread sports autos are coming on big time and will bring more riders in and keep riders with damaged hands like me riding longer.

Value looks good on the NC700x and some features I like. Mind you 350 lazy ks today ( lots of photo shooting ) over 8 hours and no pain - the Burgman is pretty comfie.
 
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I'm more a fan of the "S" than the "X".
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I actually really like this new Honda 700...I was looking for it when I bought my bike but since they had no date I decided on the 250. When it's time to upgrade ill definitely give this one a shot...it's gotten good reviews from what I've read.
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