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If you're going to pull a weapon...

rmemedic

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Be ready to use it.

Was in gridlock traffic last night in Ottawa... I mean it took over an hour to go about 8km, down town by the Rideau center.

Coming up to an intersection, this BMW coming from the other direction decided to make a u-turn. (road is 2 lanes each direction). He can't make the turn and becomes STUCK in the middle of the road due to the traffic going behind him and the turn is too tight for him to make it... Basically a ****** bag move. We're all stuck in traffic buddy, deal with it.

So, I'm in the right lane, get a green light and manage to pass by the front of his car (he's blocking the left lane of my side and the other side). He honks at me, so I give him a polite one finger salute, and that's when traffic stops again. Dude starts yelling "something something tabernack something something" and gets out of his car with his wife yelling at him. It's dark out, he's in a black trench coat and I see him reach in... I'm thinking great here comes a gun... Pulls out a retractable baton, extends it and starts yelling, swinging this thing around. So I yell at the guy "get back in your F%*^& car you %*$^ moron" and he comes up to my window, trying to taunt me out of the truck, draws back and heads towards the back of my truck, to I assume start beating on it.
Put the truck in park, grabbed my door handle, locks pop up and interior lights come on, and then he realizes I'm calmly getting out of my truck... Then he scurries back in to his car, manages to reverse, puts it in drive, floors it aimed at my door, stops, reverses again, then pulls into traffic beside me.

Basically... If you ever pull out a weapon, be ready to use it. This guy obviously had no training with how he was swinging it around, and if he was trained he wouldn't bother with a weapon. All I had to do was rush the guy and there is no longer an advantage with what is in his hands and it's game over for the guy. He was hoping to intimidate me, and it didn't work. I just didn't want my new truck pounded on.

I did get on the phone with 911. The lady was more concerned I was safe, than she was in getting info on the guy, and said to call local police later when I got home. When I did get home and did call, they were surprised the dispatcher didn't send anyone out... So today I'm going to the station to report.

I have no issue with people having something like what he had for personal DEFENCE. But, he escalated so fast I hardly had time to expect it and he needs to be reprimanded for his attitude.
 
Needs more than reprimand.. Assault with a weapon charges. I agree with you on all counts. But that's why those who use those items under such circumstances need the book thrown at'em.
 
I dunno if I'd have the patience to call police twice, than file a report, etc. Would seem much easier to just kick his ***. *shrug*

He got back in to his car as I was getting out of my truck... It was coming!
 
He got back in to his car as I was getting out of my truck... It was coming!

Normal for the type.. Had a mercedes driver pull tough guy crap on me b/c I honked when he pulled out in front of me. "Get back in the car before I get out" did the trick.. When are they gonna realize that just because they get to bully their admin staff and subordinates in the office, they can't do the same to people whose livelihood doesn't depend on them :cool:
 
Wow a french guy that ran from a fight.

Don't see that every day :)
 
I also usually drive a piece of **** car, so they realize if it's an altercation they want, I'm not going to care about a few dents.
 
Be ready to use it.

Was in gridlock traffic last night in Ottawa... I mean it took over an hour to go about 8km, down town by the Rideau center.

Coming up to an intersection, this BMW coming from the other direction decided to make a u-turn. (road is 2 lanes each direction). He can't make the turn and becomes STUCK in the middle of the road due to the traffic going behind him and the turn is too tight for him to make it... Basically a ****** bag move. We're all stuck in traffic buddy, deal with it.

So, I'm in the right lane, get a green light and manage to pass by the front of his car (he's blocking the left lane of my side and the other side). He honks at me, so I give him a polite one finger salute, and that's when traffic stops again. Dude starts yelling "something something tabernack something something" and gets out of his car with his wife yelling at him. It's dark out, he's in a black trench coat and I see him reach in... I'm thinking great here comes a gun... Pulls out a retractable baton, extends it and starts yelling, swinging this thing around. So I yell at the guy "get back in your F%*^& car you %*$^ moron" and he comes up to my window, trying to taunt me out of the truck, draws back and heads towards the back of my truck, to I assume start beating on it.
Put the truck in park, grabbed my door handle, locks pop up and interior lights come on, and then he realizes I'm calmly getting out of my truck... Then he scurries back in to his car, manages to reverse, puts it in drive, floors it aimed at my door, stops, reverses again, then pulls into traffic beside me.

Basically... If you ever pull out a weapon, be ready to use it. This guy obviously had no training with how he was swinging it around, and if he was trained he wouldn't bother with a weapon. All I had to do was rush the guy and there is no longer an advantage with what is in his hands and it's game over for the guy. He was hoping to intimidate me, and it didn't work. I just didn't want my new truck pounded on.

I did get on the phone with 911. The lady was more concerned I was safe, than she was in getting info on the guy, and said to call local police later when I got home. When I did get home and did call, they were surprised the dispatcher didn't send anyone out... So today I'm going to the station to report.

I have no issue with people having something like what he had for personal DEFENCE. But, he escalated so fast I hardly had time to expect it and he needs to be reprimanded for his attitude.


These two things are in-congruent.
What was this guy so mad about, traffic?
 
These two things are in-congruent.
What was this guy so mad about, traffic?

He was upset that people were driving around him instead of leaving him room to do a 3-point turn in the middle of rush hour traffic.
 
Retractable batons are illegal weapons in Ontario aren't they?

If they are used as "tire knockers" as in devices used to detect if a tire has a leak by listening to the sound as you hit a tire with it then it gets a bit fuzzy. It's definitely illegal to threaten someone with one. You can buy them in Canada but they are mostly for private security firms etc.
 
They aren't illegal to own. They are illegal to carry in public concealed/unconcealed much like blades (harder to conceal anyways). They are as legal as a lockpicking kit - its fine to have one but if you're caught with one you got some 'splaining to do and you better hope the cop believes it.

As an aside note, if you injure someone badly with a baton and you are trained in its use, you will get into MUCH deeper trouble than someone who is untrained. Sounds stupid, but basically you should know better how to handle it so you get in more ****.

A friend got into an argument with some d***e showing off to his girl and he came over to his car yelling and hit my friend through the window. He sauntered back to his car and my buddy got out, ran to him and kicked the **** out of him in front of his girl in front of his car and then drove off.
 
They aren't illegal to own. They are illegal to carry in public concealed/unconcealed much like blades (harder to conceal anyways). They are as legal as a lockpicking kit - its fine to have one but if you're caught with one you got some 'splaining to do and you better hope the cop believes it.

Vincent: Breaks down like this, okay: it's legal to buy it, it's legal to own it, and if you're the proprietor of a hash bar, it's legal to sell it. It's illegal to carry it, but that doesn't really matter 'cause, get a load of this, all right; if you get stopped by the cops in Amsterdam, it's illegal for them to search you. I mean, that's a right the cops in Amsterdam don't have.
 
I dunno if I'd have the patience to call police twice, than file a report, etc. Would seem much easier to just kick his ***. *shrug*

Don't forget the endless court dates you'd have to attend if the cops charged the guy
 
Places that sell those batons usually ask if you are LE/MIL/Security and then sell them to you without looking at ID....
 
Wow, medic, you seem more calmer on GTAM than real life. You should be glad he didn't use it. Who knows what other crap you can be in? At the end of the day, no one got hurt and that's all that matters.

I've seen some people can't even run properly for their life, let alone use a retractable baton. I used to think running was instinctual.

Maybe next time you can leave your hunting rifle and bowie knife in the truck. If they come close, just field dress them and stuff them in the cab
 

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