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And to sum up what most of the "anti-semitic" (:lol: please) world thinks: Israel's existence is absolute horse****, it's an imaginary country created by colonial powers under immense guilt from the events of World War II; a conflict which had nothing to do with Muslims, but for which they had to pay a price.

I'm not Muslim or Jewish, and could care less about what happens in the Middle East... but let's call it what it is. BS.
 
Projected birth rates will have the Palestinians as the majority in the current state of Israel in the not too distant future. If you think things stink now in terms of the way these people have been treated wait for a few more years. It will be interesting to hear the Israeli Knesset excuses when Israelis are in the minority. Visions of South Africa anyone?
 
mmmnaked said:
By "right away" you mean 15 minutes :rolleyes: go read a book
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Nope, the 15 minutes was when I added my last comment "And I know what you are trying to say, but there are very few naturalized people in Israel, most are Jewish, so you cannot speak of Israel and Jewish people as two separate entities", that statement you copied was immediately edited since I realized I had confused the issue for a sec

I don't need to read a book, I went through the process of becoming Jewish

My question to you is why do you feel the need to be so arrogant on your responses? you grabbed onto a honest error on my part and went to town on it, disregarding my entire post.

You are funny...and quite sad...troll I would say
 
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imnothng said:
Yes.

That does not make someone anti Jewish because they disagree with the existence of Israel. Thats all I was trying to point out.
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You can only disagree with it, in a historical sense. It's today. It's reality. It must be dealt with, because it isn't going away.
 
Rob MacLennan said:
You can only disagree with it, in a historical sense. It's today. It's reality. It must be dealt with, because it isn't going away.
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Along with that topical reality is that western nations went to war over the refusal of one country to comply with various United Nations resolutions while ignoring another country flouting them all the time. It looks like sabre rattling is happening again with the "illegal" acquisition of nuclear capability by Iran while conveniently forgetting the "illegal" aquisition of nuclear weapons by Israel. The hypocrisy is at the same time both breathtaking, and incredibly sad.
 
jc100 said:
Projected birth rates will have the Palestinians as the majority in the current state of Israel in the not too distant future. If you think things stink now in terms of the way these people have been treated wait for a few more years. It will be interesting to hear the Israeli Knesset excuses when Israelis are in the minority. Visions of South Africa anyone?
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Exactly. Displacing and killing off Palestinians is a lot better for Israel instead of granting citizenship and voting rights to them. Then again, Orthodox Jews that don't work and breed like rabbits aren't going to help the political landscape either I'm afraid.
 
ZX600 said:
Nope, the 15 minutes was when I added my last comment "And I know what you are trying to say, but there are very few naturalized people in Israel, most are Jewish, so you cannot speak of Israel and Jewish people as two separate entities", that statement you copied was immediately edited since I realized I had confused the issue for a sec

I don't need to read a book, I went through the process of becoming Jewish

My question to you is why do you feel the need to be so arrogant on your responses? you grabbed onto a honest error on my part and went to town on it, disregarding my entire post.

You are funny...and quite sad...troll I would say
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Yes I latched onto that comment because it was ignorant. The rest of your post was ignorant too. One can be against the state of Israel without being "anti-Jew". Many Jews, too, are against zionism.

I have no idea how anyone could, in their right mind, deny the injustice which was done in 1948. Israel's existence is a farce.
 
mmmnaked said:
Yes I latched onto that comment because it was ignorant. The rest of your post was ignorant too. One can be against the state of Israel without being "anti-Jew". Many Jews, too, are against zionism.

I have no idea how anyone could, in their right mind, deny the injustice which was done in 1948. Israel's existence is a farce.
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It's easy to deny when you play the "my imaginary friend is better than your imaginary friend" game.
 
Petraeus said:
lol, so ignorant.


news flash, oil is traded on a global marketplace
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So traders are running the army?
If that's the case then why aren't they invading countries with diamonds and wheat by your logic. If its about a commodity you go after the largest supplier don't you?
 
mmmnaked said:
And to sum up what most of the "anti-semitic" (:lol: please) world thinks: Israel's existence is absolute horse****, it's an imaginary country created by colonial powers under immense guilt from the events of World War II; a conflict which had nothing to do with Muslims, but for which they had to pay a price.
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Huh? Where the hell did you learn your history? Back of a cereal box? Where exactly was the "Desert Fox" General Erwin Rommel blitzing around with his Panzer tanks during WW II? The deserts in Norway? And how the hell did British Lieutenant Colonel T.E. Lawrence get his nickname "Lawrence of Arabia" during WW I? Leading uprisings in Belgium? Last I heard Damascus was in (what is now) Syria.

*Newsflash* Most of the Arab "nations" (they weren't really countries back then - more like fiefdoms) were invaded by and under control of the Axis powers during both World Wars.
 
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mmmnaked said:
Yes I latched onto that comment because it was ignorant. The rest of your post was ignorant too. One can be against the state of Israel without being "anti-Jew". Many Jews, too, are against zionism.

I have no idea how anyone could, in their right mind, deny the injustice which was done in 1948. Israel's existence is a farce.
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I think you are the ignorant one actually and I base my statement on the fact that if you understood Israel, you would understand that you can not say I'm ok with Jews but wish Israel didn't exist.

Go on with your argument, I have better things to do that to argue with someone that has no idea about a country, their people and how they are connected to their religion

Everyone is entitle to their opinion, but for most of your posts on this forum, I have no respect for your intelligence or point of view
 
FullMotoJacket said:
Huh? Where the hell did you learn your history? Back of a cereal box? Where exactly was the "Desert Fox" General Erwin Rommel blitzing around with his Panzer tanks during WW II? The deserts in Norway? And how the hell did British Lieutenant Colonel T.E. Lawrence get his nickname "Lawrence of Arabia" during WW I? Leading uprisings in Belgium? Last I heard Damascus was in (what is now) Syria.

*Newsflash* Most of the Arab "nations" (they weren't really countries back then - more like fiefdoms) were invaded by and under control of the Axis powers during both World Wars.
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WTF?? Those were battles between allied and axis forces fighting over (currently or previously held) colonial territories. Surely you're not implying that Muslims themselves had any say or instigation on these fronts. Give your head a shake!!! The only reason they were invaded was because they were under French and British control, following the division of the Ottoman empire after WWI.
 
ZX600 said:
I think you are the ignorant one actually and I base my statement on the fact that if you understood Israel, you would understand that you can not say I'm ok with Jews but wish Israel didn't exist.

Go on with your argument, I have better things to do that to argue with someone that has no idea about a country, their people and how they are connected to their religion

Everyone is entitle to their opinion, but for most of your posts on this forum, I have no respect for your intelligence or point of view
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Yeah, it's in the Torah so it must be right :rolleyes: please
 
jc100 said:
One last thing...you want to know why the US supports Israel? Yes there's a sizeable jewish lobby...but it's the evangelical christians that really drive this and the reason is downright lunacy. It's because they think that when the jews return to the holy land that's when the apocalypse will come...and with it the second coming of jesus. Yes, that's right..they want the jews to return to Israel so they can all be wiped out in an apocalypse. Madness indeed.
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Its funny that Palestinians there are not only composed of Muslims, but also a small % Christians.
 
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