.. 118 .. So not true.
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Hwy 407 question.
- Thread starter Kwakman
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.. 118 .. So not true.
that's the number for tractor trailers he's confusing it with. if they reach 118 and are Ontario plates, that's the evidence that they don't have a 105km/h limiter.
judging by the average speed seems to be 140 on the 407 I doubt it cars.
Is there an award for talking **** you don't know about? because my men, you sure should win it.
if you are doing 118 on the 407 the grannies in their buicks will be riding your arse even in the right lane
Matthew.Tremayne
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If you're the ONLY car on the road, they start nailing you after 118-120.... If you're in a large amount of traffic, obviously you won't get tagged.. Everyone in the city drives fast as hell on it BUT I'm out east, most of the time at night they sit @ Markham-Stouffville and tag anyone over 120. My dad is a retired cop and got pulled over there as well as myself, the OPP officer told him they get anyone over 118-120 if you're the only car at night. Pretty sure pops wouldn't lie about it, he hates those traffic cops...
Matthew.Tremayne
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Please, go to the east end of the 407 after 9 PM any week night. Please do 130km/h from Markham to Pickering and see how fast you get tagged.
**They also hide behind the Keele St. Ramp going eastbound quite often**
Also, they DO indeed have their own OPP detachment. Money from the 407 goes into that contract.
Can I get a cookie for knowing what I'm talking about? I've probably used the damn 407 more times then you could ever imagine going on it. Brock (aka the end of the 407) to the 427 every day. Let's be real here..... We as the tax payer pay for most of the emergency services, am I wrong or am I right?
Matthew.Tremayne-- I get upset at my bill when it comes in at $50 a month. Brock to 427?! *sends shivers down spine.*
When I was many years younger, I worked with my aunt at Markham Longo's. We lived in Brampton. Some days 2 hours each way. I would have loved the 407 back then!
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When I was many years younger, I worked with my aunt at Markham Longo's. We lived in Brampton. Some days 2 hours each way. I would have loved the 407 back then!
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Sigh...
I take the 407 more than you, and drive further than you on it. AND working in emergency services, we run calls to the 407 all the time.
Your lack of (mis) information is quite funny ..
How true.
I am a Tier 1 user. (rewards joke for overcharging) my 1,500km + month.
It is definitely different in the Ol West (Mississauga-Halton) lol
OPP will play cat and mouse (speed up, slow, speed up) and then lite em up at 115 from pacing ahead of you).
Lesson-Dont use OPP as pace car or take GTAM advise that its ok to speed 18 over
Drive smart.
I also live in Brooklin and so does inferno
Unless Wikipedia is out of date, though that would be hard to believe considering the ire it raises: "The Ontario corporation, known as 407 International Inc., is jointly owned by Cintra Infraestructuras from Spain (43.23%), subsidiaries of the Canada Pension Plan Investment Board (40%) and Montreal-based engineering firm SNC-Lavalin (16.77%).[28] The deal included a 99-year lease agreement with unlimited control over the highway and its tolls, dependent on traffic volume; however, the government maintains the right to build a transit system within the highway right-of-way.[9]"
It was dirty politics that made it happen, sure, but don't kid yourself that a profitable, government-owned 407 would have helped any of us. Look at the LCBO. Taxes still march upwards. The only difference with the license renewal scam would have been the logo at the top of the invoice. People would still be trying to cheat it now too, no difference in the attitude I fear (IIRC, the original plan paid for the highway with 35 years of tolls). Also, I could totally see special provincial fines being applied too--the government hates it when citizens get in the way of their money, so it could be worse.
Funny how upset people remain with the 407 when our liberally (ahem) mismanaged government shovels millions into the hands of private/foreign lending institutions to service our debt. Some of them might even be Spanish--I bet a FOI request would get a chilly response in that case. Response of the electorate? Let's give them a full majority and hope that the jobs Hudak was talking about aren't already on the block. Tsk, tsk, Ontario! A real political junkie I know made the observation of sitting governments in this province: Conservatives stab you in the front, Liberals stab you in the back and the NDP cuts themselves on the knife.
I have 2 transponders and 3 vehicles. You have to register or renew your bike transponder waiver every 2 years.
Those cameras are good. I tailgated a friend both on and off, about a foot or two between his rear wheel and my front and he still received a bill including the video toll charge for the whole trip. In retrospect a pretty stupid thing to do to save him 25 bucks.
Those cameras are good. I tailgated a friend both on and off, about a foot or two between his rear wheel and my front and he still received a bill including the video toll charge for the whole trip. In retrospect a pretty stupid thing to do to save him 25 bucks.
Dresden
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I don't agree. I don't fly first class, I don't feel the need to sneak in the either.
Pretend it doesn't exist if you don't like the fees? ?
+1
Dresden
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+1 my first ticket was for following an officer who played that game with me for 20 mins.
Speed up, slow down, etc. Fuc% ers
I was towing a trailer with my Atv on it. The trailer blocked the rear plate of the truck, I got billed for the trip by my Atv plate which has a plate at the back. I didn't know atv's were allowed to use the 407. The trailer plate is under the trailer bed so it didn't get picked up either.
few years ago my wife's car was stolen, we got a bill when the thief took the 407. We got out of that bill after about 300 phone calls.
few years ago my wife's car was stolen, we got a bill when the thief took the 407. We got out of that bill after about 300 phone calls.
HarleyHare
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SNC Lavalin only owns 16%, the Canada Pension Plan owns 40% (nice going), but majority is a Spanish company Cintra Infrastructure. The lease (Ontario technically owns it) is currently worth over $10 billion, based on future revenue streams, but was originally leased for 99 years (in 1999) for only $3.1 billion.
It's been labeled the most expensive tollroad in the world. Forget trying to outrun the cameras which freeze motion at light speed (ever see a still picture of a racing Formula 1 car?), just do what I do and don't use it. If everyone did that, costs and its value would come down. Remember businesses charge what people are willing to pay.
Why are we using this facility to enrich Quebec and Spanish investors? This road should never have been leased but maintained by Ontario just like all the other roads, we pay enough gas taxes and other anyway and it would work out much more efficient and cheaper for the public in the long run. The little extra time used in staying off the 407 is well worth it and will bring about change if more people did that.
Bike Cop
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Close - it's 115km/hr.
"The little extra time used in staying off the 407 is well worth it and will bring about change if more people did that. "
Sorry, but my time is still worth more than the amount charged at present.
Sorry, but my time is still worth more than the amount charged at present.
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