Kids, wheelies are bad. You gotta see what they did to my fork seals 
Hwy 400 wheelies 3 riders arrested
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Numbers are numbers. Distracted driving kills way more people than speeding or stunting or racing... Yet the punishment for the latter offenses is 20x more severe.
RedDogDarren
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Kids, wheelies are bad. You gotta see what they did to my fork seals
More practice dude. You're landing them too hard.
RedDogDarren
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Whether or not they are bad laws or good laws or something in between is irrelevent. We all know the rules and potential consequences.
Do the crime then be prepared to do the time whether judicial or last rites. Quit whining when you get caught.
Do the crime then be prepared to do the time whether judicial or last rites. Quit whining when you get caught.
I think that one thing that has been lost, over the years, is the concept of 'appropriateness for the situation.' If you're acting like a wingnut and there's no one around to catch or report you, then it's likely appropriate to the situation.
Griffin
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Exactly.
I was riding along a regional road a couple of weeks ago, slightly over the limit and enough to interest the cop going the other way. I could see the thoughts working there way through his head - "I should nail this one...hmm, sport bike... hmm last three sport bikes I tried to pull over ran because they were afraid of HTA 172... that was embarassing as I had to give up the chase almost right away... bah, he's not going that fast". I could tell that from the eye contact we made, from the slight dive of his front end then the almost immediate release as he came off the brakes and from the look he gave as he drove by seeing me on a sport bike in full leathers.
For the record, I wouldn't have run.
its already been stated you go from a traffic violation to a criminal charge. so you are much worse off.
how much can i hire you for to read minds at my next party
GentlemanRacer
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The guy who was not arrested and is alleged to have been a part of this group should lawyer up, asap.
His "buddies" probably didn't know him. He was just some guy, and under all that gear, who knows who he was? If it turns out they were acquainted, friends don't know each others' plates anyway. Sport bikes really do all look the same.
If the police failed to stop one of them, given the resources at their disposal, (radio, air, and a hwy crawling with cops) it is unlikely that he was even aware he was being pursued or signaled to stop. It's a criminal charge anyway, so the standard of evidence should be higher. I'd say fight it.
If we could get the time and location of said infraction, it could have been anyone here, and we should probably all turn ourselves in if we were traveling the road at that time.
I wonder what the police line-up would look like?
His "buddies" probably didn't know him. He was just some guy, and under all that gear, who knows who he was? If it turns out they were acquainted, friends don't know each others' plates anyway. Sport bikes really do all look the same.
If the police failed to stop one of them, given the resources at their disposal, (radio, air, and a hwy crawling with cops) it is unlikely that he was even aware he was being pursued or signaled to stop. It's a criminal charge anyway, so the standard of evidence should be higher. I'd say fight it.
If we could get the time and location of said infraction, it could have been anyone here, and we should probably all turn ourselves in if we were traveling the road at that time.
I wonder what the police line-up would look like?
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im willing that one of his "buddies" already gave him up. cops lie and intimidate people to get information. probably even told the snitch they'd reduce their charges for exchange of info
IF they catch you.
If you pull over its a guaranteed charge. If you run, chances really are in your favour.
From my previous experience riding with some colourful characters who made it a point to get into pursuits, the cops rarely catch a fleeing bike.
shhhh don't tell anyone
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Recent case law states that an officer's word is to be given no more weight than that of anyone else though, in practise, it generally is given more.
RandomHero
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Not an expert, but I think someone pointed out that some charges do infact involve jail time. In certain situations it's very tempting to run.
Same can be said of the left turners, they just don't get charged even after being caught killing a person.
If either of those gives the person a criminal record, getting away becomes a lot more appealing. I'd personally trust a good legal rep a lot more than a bike and my riding skills, but I can see why some people decide to twist the wrist instead. I've evaded the police (within the limits of the law) in the past, when I had a pretty good idea they were gonna go after me (pull a u-turn behind me), but that would have been before they turned on the cherries, in which case I would have pulled over. Saved me from a ticket or five
Griffin
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Bottle of Scotch and a ride home will do.
You'd be amazed at my ability to understand what a woman is thinking from her facial expressions when a drunken boob is trying to do party tricks.
Seriuously though, you've never seen a cruiser do the front-end-dive-then-not-turn-around-after-you manouver? Maybe you could talk with more cops and get a sense of how they operate. Many of the ones I talk with are quite frank about the fact that chasing a sport bike is a losing proposition for them.
Maximum penalty involves a possible 6 months in jail. Possible maximum penalty for running, just running, is up to 5 years in prison.
Gumby256
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Yes your are Probally right that distracted driving causes most accidents. But how many drivers where distracted by these guys doing wheelies. Thats part of the problem with doing them in heavy traffic.
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