How to get M1 license without knowing any English?!?

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i just looked up the same signs as well - to emphasisze why being able to read and understand english is critical for road safety. Probably explains why the roads in Toronto are so bad.

Yeah, because people who speak English fluently are all AWESOME drivers.. *sigh*
 
I don't see how translating a test and printing a couple copies can be so expensive. They can actually make money because there charging $10 for the test itself.

Bwahahaha, obviously you have no idea how the Government spends money. Do you have any idea how many level of approval something like that would go through? How many civil servants would be paid? Sir, you are out to lunch.
 
I don't see how translating a test and printing a couple copies can be so expensive. They can actually make money because there charging $10 for the test itself.

Because it's not just a couple of copies we are talking about, they would need to make thousands of copies Canada wide for all the different languages and in order to make all these, government needs to spend a ******** of money, our tax dollars.
Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against your father, I too immigrated to this country years ago and to this day have cousins and relatives who speak very little English, but it's tough luck, get a translator and pay, or learn how to speak the language of a country you are living in.
 
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Bwahahaha, obviously you have no idea how the Government spends money. Do you have any idea how many level of approval something like that would go through? How many civil servants would be paid? You are out to lunch.

Yeah..even without the government thing..once you offer something, you have to offer it, correctly, forever. Maintenance costs money.. If there is a significant need, I get it. But somewhere the line is drawn..apparently, in this case, at M tests in English and French only. I imagine most people in this country would survive without an M license as it is predominantly a leisure activity here.
 
Yeah..even without the government thing..once you offer something, you have to offer it, correctly, forever. Maintenance costs money.. If there is a significant need, I get it. But somewhere the line is drawn..apparently, in this case, at M tests in English and French only. I imagine most people in this country would survive without an M license as it is predominantly a leisure activity here.

Yes i agree, i might have overlooked all the money involved in the process but nonetheless i still believe it should be offered. There are two reason i believe it should at least in Toronto.

1. As i have stated before Toronto and the GTA is a multicultural society so it should offer tests and what not in other languages.

2. I thought the government wanted to be more green so wouldn't riding a motorcycle be more green than driving a car?

Flame me all you want but thats just my opinion and belief.
 
The reason why i need my dad to be the principle driver is because state farm only accepts a person with over 5 years experience starting from G1 (which i don't have).

The quote above is from your insurance thread - why don't you pay the $100? Sounds like you want him to have his license, more then he wants it.
 
Yes i agree, i might have overlooked all the money involved in the process but nonetheless i still believe it should be offered. There are two reason i believe it should at least in Toronto.

1. As i have stated before Toronto and the GTA is a multicultural society so it should offer tests and what not in other tests.

Toronto and the GTA have the same signage and laws as the rest of the Province, for the most part (HTA, maybe not parking). One city should not have independent signage and rules to the rest of the Province. This type of change would need to be at the Provincial level, at least, if not the Federal level.

2. I thought the government wanted to be more green so wouldn't riding a motorcycle be more green than driving a car?

Flame me all you want but thats just my opinion and belief.

What's more green than forcing a "potential" driver to take the bus/transit????

I am pretty sure restricting people from driving is the most green scenario of the bunch.
 
In what way? You're still driving a vehicle with the potential to kill someone.

Absolutely agree - your still driving a motor vehicle in a foreign country where the native language is unfamiliar - likely to increase your chances of an accident/incident.

But to make my point: Look at how foreign countries determine what other countries DL's are deemed acceptable. You will note there is a hierarchy for countries with good driving habits and countries with poor driving habits.

To illustrate my point - look at how many countries accept the Canadian/German/UK drivers license for temporarily driving on their roads vs. how many countries would accept - say a mexican license, or korean license (FYI korea had the highest number of collisions per capita in the early 2000's)

This is different from becoming licensed in a foreign country - lets say that foreign country is Canada - because there is an expectation that you already understand the language - or will be learning it very quickly in the near future. The driving tests here that are offered in many languages is to ease the immigration process with the understanding that the new to Canada folks will learn the official language as part of settling in to the country. I think we all know that in the GTA that isn't always the case.
 
The quote above is from your insurance thread - why don't you pay the $100? Sounds like you want him to have his license, more then he wants it.

He was the person that brought up that topic. I was going to get my own policy but he said that i'll save more if i went under his policy and he also wants to get a motorcycle. I'm just trying to find a method for him.
 
He was the person that brought up that topic. I was going to get my own policy but he said that i'll save more if i went under his policy and he also wants to get a motorcycle. I'm just trying to find a method for him.

Yeah, the method is for you to cough up the $100 for a translator. What kind of cheap son are you?
 
Yeah, the method is for you to cough up the $100 for a translator. What kind of cheap son are you?

Now your jumping to conclusions. You don't know my situation. I've already given over 10k to to help pay my mothers mortgage. If your wondering, yes they are divorced. So please stop jumping to conclusions because thats really offending.
 
If your father were to get his M1; what will happen when he takes a rider training course (M1 Exit)? If his English language skills are not good, how would he understand the verbal instructions they will be giving him throughout the three days of testing (one night theory - 2 days riding)?

Same thing if he went to the Ministry to get his M2.
 
Yeah, because people who speak English fluently are all AWESOME drivers.. *sigh*

Stirring the pot I assume.... so what exactly is the point you are making here?

So tell me, it is or isn't important to understand and comprehend english when it comes to road signage written in English?

Don't put words in my mouth. I dont recall saying that speaking english = best driving skills ever.

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Yes i agree, i might have overlooked all the money involved in the process but nonetheless i still believe it should be offered. There are two reason i believe it should at least in Toronto.

1. As i have stated before Toronto and the GTA is a multicultural society so it should offer tests and what not in other languages.

2. I thought the government wanted to be more green so wouldn't riding a motorcycle be more green than driving a car?

Flame me all you want but thats just my opinion and belief.

Not flaming..just saying, there are a LOT of cultures..how many do we accomodate? I think you have to make reasonable and prudent decisions. I think that decision by the government is probably ok. As I say, bikes are leisure activity mostly..I don't think it's a huge hardship.
 
If your father were to get his M1; what will happen when he takes a rider training course (M1 Exit)? If his English language skills are not good, how would he understand the verbal instructions they will be giving him throughout the three days of testing (one night theory - 2 days riding)?

Same thing if he went to the Ministry to get his M2.

From a previous post i stated that he knew the basics. Which is all that is needed to listen to instructions during the M1 Exit test. He plans on taking the RTI safety court. So it shouldn't be a problem.
 
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