How low will the Canadian $ go?

OMG this sounds like heaven - pls pm me details!!!

I went on a cruise before, and it was okay, but I really hate travelling around in "touristy" groups. Everytime you port on a cruise, you get a waft of the smell from the ship as it empties its bowels (which is half the reason why they port), and you're surrounded by fat-old-heavy-breathing people with fanny packs, and loud annoying children no matter what activity you're lining up for at the port.

This summer the wife and I toured three large european cities, and while we did some of the "tourist" attractions in each city just to say we did it, by far the best times we had were roaming off the beaten paths.

Sent you a PM. Please don't book it up near Xmas time next year as I'll be going back then!! :)

We only travel to countries where English is not the first language for one main reason....when I go away I want to feel a bit of culture shock because for me that's part of the vacation. Also those countries tend to be where the dollar goes further. Language has never been a barrier, you learn a few words then learn a few more. I can now have a reasonable (although grammatically incorrect) conversation with people and order what I want in restaurants and grocery stores. Safety is a consideration but you are actually safer in most parts Central American countries than you are in big cities in the US. Just be a little streetsmart and remember the big cities there are like big cities in North America, there are some no go areas. Mostly you use the big cities as transit hubs anyway, when we go to Panama City we stay one night before catching an early bus the next day for example. I've only been advised by police to get out of an area for my own safety because I was in the middle of a political rally for a new President in Panama one year and rival sides were at a stand off. Locals tend to look out for you though...they are generally proud of their country and want you to enjoy it too.

As for countries, Costa Rica and Panama are the main ones where I rent condos/vacation rentals as I like rain forest more than beach but you still can have great beach holidays in those counties too.
 
I only go to St Thomas for one reason...... to catch a boat to St John. ;-) there's my tip right there. You can't be disappointed by that island.

that's solid advice. st. john is very nice, go to the beach in the state park


Yes... that is an awesome looking place, I just wasn't sure about making over and back on the ferry in time for the ship.

Is it a lot different than Magen's Bay?? Any food/drinks available on the beach itself??
 
Yes... that is an awesome looking place, I just wasn't sure about making over and back on the ferry in time for the ship.

Is it a lot different than Magen's Bay?? Any food/drinks available on the beach itself??
Very different. St John isn't a food and drinks on the beach kinda place, unless you bring your own. Its a quiet island.. the beaches are pretty empty and calm especially in the evenings. I don't think I'd bother with a day trip though. You'll just get schlepped around in a sight seeing cab and dropped back off to Cruz Bay to spend money.
 
I only go to St Thomas for one reason...... to catch a boat to St John. ;-) there's my tip right there. You can't be disappointed by that island.

Very different. St John isn't a food and drinks on the beach kinda place, unless you bring your own. Its a quiet island.. the beaches are pretty empty and calm especially in the evenings. I don't think I'd bother with a day trip though. You'll just get schlepped around in a sight seeing cab and dropped back off to Cruz Bay to spend money.

Good to know. Sounds like you guys know the Virgin Islands pretty well.
 
Yes... that is an awesome looking place, I just wasn't sure about making over and back on the ferry in time for the ship.

Is it a lot different than Magen's Bay?? Any food/drinks available on the beach itself??

GO go go, if your ship is in port all day, the little ferries run all day, its a fifteen minute ride, taxis which are van bodies with open bench sets take multiple parties and stop at various beaches and run all the time. Network with some people on the ship and make a party out of it.
There will be officers from all the ships with a day off heading over , follow them.
There is concessions stands at most of the major beaches usually where the taxis will drop you, beer and hot dogs and bathrooms/showers but set back from the beach so the view is never f'd up. It is a US funded park system .
Take a mask and snorkel , the corral and fish are outstanding, park actually extends half mile offshore the reefs are protected.

Goes without saying, take enough US cash for taxi, beer, and a treat in a plastic ziplock bag, and leave your valuables on the boat. have your stuff in a pack so you can see it from the water. Crime is VERY low because the island doesn't exactly have much beyond tourists and they will not sour them.
 
I've never seen a concession at any of the beaches. I guess Cinnamon Bay would have one, as would the campgrounds. I always see the taxis whirling tourists around- it looks so miserable. You don't get to actually chill out and take in the island for what it is (slow and quiet) but thats just my opinion. I love the place, been 3 times the last 5 years.

The fast ferry is a good 30+ minute ride, but its close to the airport. The slow ferry is 10-15 minutes, but its a longer taxi ride to Red Hook. I don't know how much time cruise passengers would have??
 
Everytime you port on a cruise, you get a waft of the smell from the ship as it empties its bowels (which is half the reason why they port)

Just as an offside to the discussion, FYI, cruise ships absolutely positively don't dump anything in the water within a port. It's generally accepted (law in the USA & Canada) that sewage doesn't get dumped anything closer than 3 miles to shore, and even that would be terrible practice- most dumps take place in the overnight hours and far, far from any coastline.

So, If you're smelling something in port, it was generated in port, or most often, the nearby population. Ships do a surprisingly thorough treatment of sewage onboard and then only dump long after they've departed a port.

Most ships won't even bunker fresh water in a foreign port...with very few exceptions, San Juan being one that I noticed, but only because it's a US territory subject to US water quality testing laws.. The rest of the time, despite the costs, they run the desalinators as the quality of fresh water in foreign ports cannot be guaranteed. A ship full of passengers suffering from something like montezuma's revenge is bad for business. ;)
 
Many smaller Islands just do not have any fresh water to spare, hence desalination equipment and what is available is very expensive, its why you see storage tanks and silos at every house and building. BVI's we paid a small ransome to fill an 80gal tank.
Cruise ships usually run incinerators to get rid of solid waste since disposal fees are impossible, the steam and heat is converted to energy. Nobody is opening a gray water/Blk water valve until a ship is in international waters and even then they are very conscious of currents and wave flow, fines are in the hundreds of thousands and the industry is very closely monitored.
 
Agreed. The cruise lines know they are under a microscope and they do genuinely try to minimize their footprint. RCI for example prides themselves on their efforts to minimize things, and having done the all access tours on several of those ships you do see evidence of it all in action.
 
I've never seen a concession at any of the beaches. I guess Cinnamon Bay would have one, as would the campgrounds. I always see the taxis whirling tourists around- it looks so miserable. You don't get to actually chill out and take in the island for what it is (slow and quiet) but thats just my opinion. I love the place, been 3 times the last 5 years.

The fast ferry is a good 30+ minute ride, but its close to the airport. The slow ferry is 10-15 minutes, but its a longer taxi ride to Red Hook. I don't know how much time cruise passengers would have??

EcoTours operates a snack bar at Honeymoon beach and Canseel bay, there is a snack shack at Trunk Bay and Cinnamon Bay. I have been drunk there several times. This can be confirmed on the US national park visitors directory.

Ferry from the cruise dock at St Thomas to St John is 15 +- , when you come in by cruise ship you'll be docked by 8am and precleared customs and the ship wont likely depart till 5 5-30, St Thomas is a berthed port 90% of the time so no tendering to mess with. Plenty of time for a beach day.

If you stay in St Thomas , there is an interesting spice shop selling lotions and potions called RumBay just across the sq from your docks, your missus might like it. At the road to the top of the hill is a Walmart (they really are everywhere) and rum is $5.00 per bottle, coke is $5.00 per bottle.

Years ago when I raced sailboats more seriously I worked with a british team based out of USVI. You can see the BVI's but they didn't set up there (tax dodges) . I got to spend weeks down there.

SweetOnion have a look at the US national park website, it lists some cool hikes , 2hrs in length and tips for visiting the park.
 
Just got home from my 10 day NCL cruise so I'm a little slow with the replys. Went to Puerto Rico, St Thomas, St. Maarten and Tortola BVI. Hands down Tortola is my favorite, been there before and loved it that time too. St Thomas was a blast. Did a Kon Tiki tour and beach trip that drops you off at Honeymoon Bay, and there's 2 bars on the beach both serve food. Very nice beach.


We found NCL kind of meh compared to some of the other lines.

Sorry you didn't enjoy it as much as we do. For me NCL offers the best value for my dollar. As said below the quality of the trip can be really effected by both the ship and the group of passengers your on with.


No kidding.... we just got home from our first with NCL. I knew they would book in Canadian but didn't know at what rate. I am still sitting on money I converted at $1.03 for vacationing over the next several years. Trying to book another one but can't stomach the conversion.

Either way... With that Pick 2 deal or even the Ultimate Beverage Package on, with the possibility of my little one only having to pay the tax... Gonna have to look at booking one asap before they up their exchange I suppose.

I hear you on the exchange. I grabbed a bunch of vacation cash a few years ago as well. I'm running pretty low now but I had a few good trips. We're going to do one of the 10 or 11 day Panama Canal trips in 2017 so we will book soon and do the deposit and then we will have a year to wait and see what the rate does and hopefully pay the balance when it's a bit better. If not, Well that's life. I'll grumble and whine about it but i'm still going.

I'm finding with different cruise lines its not so much the line but the individual ship for a nice experience.

I've never been ill from any cruise ship, heard the horror stories but they are meticulous and its never bothered us. The 35% dollar and added gratuities makes me a bit nauseous .

It's all about the ship and your fellow passengers. We have been on the NCL Dawn 5 times and always had a blast. We love that ship, it has the amenities that we like and seems to attract like minded passengers. A big factor on a cruise is the group of passengers your stuck with. We went on a cruise out of Boston 3 weeks after the marathon bombing. This was an amazing group of people. Everybody was determined to have a good time, to grieve and move on with their lives. Everybody was family, it was a special week.

On another note, we did a cruise a couple years back out of NYC and the ship was filled with the stereotypical nasty New Yorker. The whole vibe was angry, like at any moment a prison riot would break out. We missed one of our ports because it was a tender port and it was gusty with 10' waves, it was also during Hurricane season so it was no surprise. I thought my fellow passengers were going to set that ship on fire.

I agree with the gratuities. Just include that in the advertised price. It's not like we're not going to pay it anyways.

Just as an offside to the discussion, FYI, cruise ships absolutely positively don't dump anything in the water within a port. It's generally accepted (law in the USA & Canada) that sewage doesn't get dumped anything closer than 3 miles to shore, and even that would be terrible practice- most dumps take place in the overnight hours and far, far from any coastline.

So, If you're smelling something in port, it was generated in port, or most often, the nearby population. Ships do a surprisingly thorough treatment of sewage onboard and then only dump long after they've departed a port.

Most ships won't even bunker fresh water in a foreign port...with very few exceptions, San Juan being one that I noticed, but only because it's a US territory subject to US water quality testing laws.. The rest of the time, despite the costs, they run the desalinators as the quality of fresh water in foreign ports cannot be guaranteed. A ship full of passengers suffering from something like montezuma's revenge is bad for business. ;)

The smell in the port is the smell of them pumping out the septic into a tanker on the pier. They do it at most ports. It's like when they clean the port-o-johns on a construction site, only 5k of them at the same time.

We took in potable water at each port, and have at pretty much every port I've been too. I'm in the potable water business so much to my wifes irritation I notice and mention it pretty much everytime. One thing I have noticed is the fact that they never let the hose touch the pier. They keep it suspended by using trivets. I have no idea why.

One fun thing about waste disposal that NCL does, and I'm sure the others do it to is they dispose of their food waste at sea. The shred it and then drop it at sea for fish food. The fun part is the do it daily when at sea starting just before the main restaurant opens for dinner. They effectively chum the water behind the ship so that you have a good chance of seeing marine life jumping after the ship through the big floor to ceiling

Seen a few dolphins, flying fish and other things leaping for a free dinner. I asked one of the ships officers about it once. I wondered if the dolphins were more active in the late afternoon because that's when we would see them. He said nopes, that's when we dump the food waste
 
Hey Torren, just so you know NCL has a way better conversion rate in Canadian funds. Right now they are taking Canadian money at $1.25. It just went UP to that as well, if you can believe it.

Make that Panama Canal booking ASAP and do it in CANADIAN funds. You have to call them instead of booking online, as that will just charge your Canadian credit card in US funds and you will get slammed the exchange. But if you call you can get them to charge you the US booking fee multiplied by 1.25 right now. My wife just called to confirm this on Monday.
The only way you can get burned is if the Canadian dollar somehow surpasses the US dollar prior to your final payment, which is virtually impossible. However, the exchange rate will still affect your cost at the time of each payment. Just know that you cannot pay in 2 different currencies after booking, without cancelling and rebooking, losing your package etc. Good luck. We are considering a Panama Canal one as well. Let me know if you book one. #notcrazyiswear
 
Thanks for the heads up. We will be booking on boxing day likely or shortly after. I picked up 3 sets of "Cruise rewards" this past week because they had a good deal going. We were planning on doing a family trip anyways Us, my parents and my brother and his wife, so I got us 1 each.

For those who don't know what cruise rewards are, it's a pre paid deposit on another cruise. The old system was if you put $250 down on another cruise they would credit your onboard account $100. To basically you got a $250 credit for $150 out of pocket. You must use the deposit with in 4 years and you can transfer to to family or friends for no cost. You can only use 1 reward per cabin booked.

This time they upped the rewards. I bought 3 for $750 total and got a credit of $375. So for $375 I got 3x $250 cruise vouchers. 1 for us, and 1 for my parents and 1 for my brother for stocking stuffers. Who dosen't like the gift of a vacation?.

We will probably finalize our plans over xmas and i'll let you know.

p.s. Always book by phone. The phone agent will quite often throw in a specialty dinner or onboard credit because he likes my voice I guess? I don't ask but they usually offer. They also can set you up some inside knowledge about cabin selection.
 
I need a good rate to convert large USD amount to CAD. Anyone know a place with good rates?

In the GTA, I've found the best rates at Guardian downtown. I have used SwiftX in woodbridge many times, normally slightly higher rates (still blows banks out of the water), these are my go to guys for small amounts of money.

I have an account setup offshore (currencyonline.com) that has amazing rates, but I haven't traded with them yet. If I was doing $10,000 or more, I would use that one. That one is interesting as you can leave money in the account and move it between currencies (upside is the profit is apparently not reported back to government to be taxed, downside is your money is on an island somewhere, it is always possible that they disappear it). This one also lets you fund the account with one currency and deposit into any bank account worldwide in any other currency (takes ~72 hours).
 
Just checked the online site. It's about the same as a TD staff exchange offer. I have family working there... I was wondering if it was possible to get better rates. They told me past 43k I can contact the trading desk in waterhouse to get a better rate. After 120k they'll contact treasury to get me the best rate possible.

Thanks for posting up.

In the GTA, I've found the best rates at Guardian downtown. I have used SwiftX in woodbridge many times, normally slightly higher rates (still blows banks out of the water), these are my go to guys for small amounts of money.

I have an account setup offshore (currencyonline.com) that has amazing rates, but I haven't traded with them yet. If I was doing $10,000 or more, I would use that one. That one is interesting as you can leave money in the account and move it between currencies (upside is the profit is apparently not reported back to government to be taxed, downside is your money is on an island somewhere, it is always possible that they disappear it). This one also lets you fund the account with one currency and deposit into any bank account worldwide in any other currency (takes ~72 hours).
 
I have a friend headed to FL right now to board his cruise on Boxing day. He's been informed by Royal Caribbean customer service that they're still offering CDN>USD exchange aboard the ship for 10%.

I jokingly told him I'd send him $100,000 and split the $30K profit with him. He laughed and said there's a $500 limit each transaction, but jeez, if it was me I'd be doing $500 a day and coming home with a tidy sum in my pocket at the end of a 12 night cruise.
 
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