Harley Davidson kills its Bronx Streetfighter

I'd take an inline-4 over anything Yamaha makes. The inline-4 is almost the perfect design of engine when air-cooled. The liquid cooled inline-4s are exceptional performers, but since liquid cooled the inline idea is not necessary. They could just as easily produce a box 4 if liquid cooled and save space. All of Honda's engines beat all of the competition all things considered.
Hmm..couldn't disagree more.
 
I'd take an inline-4 over anything Yamaha makes. The inline-4 is almost the perfect design of engine when air-cooled. The liquid cooled inline-4s are exceptional performers, but since liquid cooled the inline idea is not necessary. They could just as easily produce a box 4 if liquid cooled and save space. All of Honda's engines beat all of the competition all things considered.

The only thing Honda does make is most soul-less boring appliance motors, the Yamaha triple is more fun than anything in Hondas lineup
 
LOL! I actually like that design. Great in the city. Fat front tire is the latest in street styling. The forward pegs look a little awkward though. It was just a concept, never made it anywhere.
"Great in the city" what city do you live in :unsure:
Latest in street styling among pubescent males with zero knowledge of motorcycles possibly, and the pegs with those bars looks just a little awkward, That's an understatement :cautious: you'd need to be built like an orang-utan to ride it. It has less ground clearance then the height of the rubber on the tires and it doesn't even have a rider on it yet :| It was designed by morons and assembled with very expensive parts that somebody already had kicking around in their Harley dream design play room, or we are just looking at a 10 inch long plastic model that has been photoshopped onto a boring background.
... doesn't look like they planned on giving it much front brake either, so it must be very light weight model or very low powered.
 
"Great in the city" what city do you live in :unsure:
Latest in street styling among pubescent males with zero knowledge of motorcycles possibly, and the pegs with those bars looks just a little awkward, That's an understatement :cautious: you'd need to be built like an orang-utan to ride it. It has less ground clearance then the height of the rubber on the tires and it doesn't even have a rider on it yet :| It was designed by morons and assembled with very expensive parts that somebody already had kicking around in their Harley dream design play room, or we are just looking at a 10 inch long plastic model that has been photoshopped onto a boring background.
... doesn't look like they planned on giving it much front brake either, so it must be very light weight model or very low powered.

Dude, it was a concept model, made to look a little extreme. No matter how impractical you think it is, people would buy it. Anyway, it's dead along with lots of other Harley models next year. Harley Davidson is headed in a completely new direction:

 
The only thing Honda does make is most soul-less boring appliance motors, the Yamaha triple is more fun than anything in Hondas lineup

Best efficiency. Best product support. Best dealer network. I would trust a Honda engine before any other brand on this planet.
 
Dude, it was a concept model, made to look a little extreme. No matter how impractical you think it is, people would buy it. Anyway, it's dead along with lots of other Harley models next year. Harley Davidson is headed in a completely new direction:


What a pile of Hogley hype, so glad I dumped my HOG stock at twice current value.
 
Why arn't they stuffing the Vrod motor into more models?
 
Because "Harley" riders didn't want that engine. They want a classic Harley engine.

I thought they were putting it in the breakout or the fxdr?
 
Best efficiency. Best product support. Best dealer network. I would trust a Honda engine before any other brand on this planet.
Yamaha's cp2 700 twin is widely regarded as the most reliable motorcycle engine currently.
Flame on.

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I still have a Harley sport bike, a XR1200. Great bike, fun to ride, handles great, stops great and is pretty quick. Bonus fun, apparently most of the biking world has no clue what it is when they see it. Too bad they stopped making them.
That is one of my favorites.
 
hey believe that their customers will not cross-shop against any other brand and they can make whatever they want and charge whatever they want with little effect on their sales.

It's been my observation that when it comes to the metric crowd brand loyalty is much less of a thing. They buy the bike that they visually like that performs and/or does the job they want it to do. The name on the tank comes second. Reliability is good across the board (with few exceptions) so it's not like one brand vs another is a deciding factor on being able to ride it vs wrench on it most of the time.

Part of the appeal to HD's is that they are rather simple, less gizmo's.

Maybe I've been seeing different Harleys then you have, but they have just as many gizmos as anyone on many of their models...

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All of Honda's engines beat all of the competition all things considered.
I would trust a Honda engine before any other brand on this planet.

Quick, someone message Paul, Roadghost's account has been hacked! :LOL:
 
Maybe I've been seeing different Harleys then you have, but they have just as many gizmos as anyone on many of their models...

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Nope it's just you trying to bash or make a point against harley's as usual. Half of those are typical motorycle controls with a few extras for nav and radio. WOW so many gizmos as anyone, nice try...

Unlike this, I am sure this is a great ride, but way to many buttons, is one of those buttons the foot recliner or back massager...

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Nope it's just you trying to bash or make a point against harley's as usual. Half of those are typical motorycle controls with a few extras for nav and radio. WOW so many gizmos as anyone, nice try...

Unlike this, I am sure this is a great ride, but way to many buttons, is one of those buttons the foot recliner or back massager...

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That is bleeping horrendous. Which designer thought that lots of buttons should be the same size and shape and way below the handlebars? Boo.
 
That's a ~10 year old (or more) Goldwing. You're comparing apples to oranges.

Here's a 2020 Goldwing layout.

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And a 2020 Harley CVO.

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I think if you actually sat on a modern Harley you'd be a little flaberghasted how many "gizmos" they have. Just because yours is oldschool doesn't mean that's the way they all still are, especially the farkle-laden models like the CVO. By the way, that screen on the Harley is touchscreen. The Goldwing uses a joystick layout instead on the left grip so you don't need to take your hands off the handebars.

Sheesh. Chill out. Thou doth protesteth too much.
 
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