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VanillaGorilla

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So I'm looking forward to buying my first handgun and I'm unsure of what I should get.

So far I have a few choices in mind,

Smith & Wesson M&P 9
Sig 226
Sig 229
Ruger SR9
Beretta 92FS

Sig's weren't even on my list due to price, but out of the 7 handguns I've fired recently I did very well with the 226.
Had glocks on the list but after firing them in 3 calibers I just don't like them.

I was able to fire some rounds off on a few different handguns recently, H&K, several glocks, Sig 226
Beretta PX4, Walther 99, a few in 40 cal and a couple in 45cal.

So lets hear your opinions? The good, the bad, your experiences,
I'm pretty sure I'll be starting off with a 9mm, ammo on the .40 and .45 can get pricey.



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I've owned Para's, Sigs, Glocks, and HK.

I've still got my HKs and Glocks.. I really liked the M&P. Stay far away from Berettas, RUN from the Ruger SR9.

The SIGs, M&P, Glock 17, HK (P30, USP, P7) are all top shelf and will serve you well. What it ultimately comes down to, is which one feels the best. They're all way more accurate than you are going to be capable of shooting for a good long time. Feel is really important. I've settled into the P30L. Find something that works for you (as best as you can) and stick with it. Consistency is key. The fundamentals don't change, but bouncing around different handguns does not help when starting out.

I'm assuming you did this at Target Sports? They're a good bunch up there.

Stay 9mm. Will be the cheapest in the long run and most comfortable to learn with. Shooting is a perishable skill. Practice practice practice.
 
Ruger makes alot of pistol for the dollar.
 
I've owned Para's, Sigs, Glocks, and HK.

I've still got my HKs and Glocks.. I really liked the M&P. Stay far away from Berettas, RUN from the Ruger SR9.

The SIGs, M&P, Glock 17, HK (P30, USP, P7) are all top shelf and will serve you well. What it ultimately comes down to, is which one feels the best. They're all way more accurate than you are going to be capable of shooting for a good long time. Feel is really important. I've settled into the P30L. Find something that works for you (as best as you can) and stick with it. Consistency is key. The fundamentals don't change, but bouncing around different handguns does not help when starting out.

I'm assuming you did this at Target Sports? They're a good bunch up there.

Stay 9mm. Will be the cheapest in the long run and most comfortable to learn with. Shooting is a perishable skill. Practice practice practice.


yup, Target Sports it is. had a blast.
Ruger made the list due to pricing, then again Target had an M&P 9 range kit, includes 3 mags, mag holder, quick loader, holster and some others for about 600. Really wish I was able to test the M&P but they were out for cleaning after the S&W open house they just had.
I'll be going back to test out the M&P eventually.
 
forgot to mention the Springfield XD, anyone?
 
CLJ, why run from beretta? I've owned both a 92fs and the newer 90-two in .40, never had a problem with them. Decent trigger, in SA and DA. Great first pistol. Had an sr9, worst trigger ever

Vanillagorilla, as mentioned above go with what fits your hand best. If sig is on ur list have you given any thought to the 2022?
 
forgot to mention the Springfield XD, anyone?

I had an XD 9mm a while ago along with several Glocks in various calibers, and an M&P9 also. There really is no better or worse, IMO. Pick whichever one has the features and feel that you desire.

For me, top priorities are simplicity and reliability. For that reason I've always had a Glock in my safe and it seems to be the most enduring brand in my household. I want my handgun to shoot all kinds of ammo, to function with minimal maintenance, and to fire fast. Accuracy and random gadgetry aren't important in a handgun, unless you find yourself wanting to shoot bullseye or something.
 
CLJ, why run from beretta? I've owned both a 92fs and the newer 90-two in .40, never had a problem with them. Decent trigger, in SA and DA. Great first pistol. Had an sr9, worst trigger ever

Vanillagorilla, as mentioned above go with what fits your hand best. If sig is on ur list have you given any thought to the 2022?


I've seen the SIG 2022 in they're brochure but haven't seen one in person, I wouldn't rule it out though.

I had an XD 9mm a while ago along with several Glocks in various calibers, and an M&P9 also. There really is no better or worse, IMO. Pick whichever one has the features and feel that you desire.

For me, top priorities are simplicity and reliability. For that reason I've always had a Glock in my safe and it seems to be the most enduring brand in my household. I want my handgun to shoot all kinds of ammo, to function with minimal maintenance, and to fire fast. Accuracy and random gadgetry aren't important in a handgun, unless you find yourself wanting to shoot bullseye or something.


I think I'm going to give the glock 17 another chance just due to their reputation.



here's another question for you guys, where do you make your purchases?
And do you know of any other ranges like Target sports where you can test fire their guns?
I know of Target, Al Flaherty and that place on 11 just above Orillia.
 
I dunno who else will let you try their guns but I've purchased from Al Simmons in Hamilton and I also buy and shoot at Silverdale, they have a good shop on site called Lanz Shooting Supplies.

Other than that there are lots of good online shops like Wolverine Supplies, Armco, P&D Enterprises, etc.
 
So I'm looking forward to buying my first handgun and I'm unsure of what I should get.

So far I have a few choices in mind,

Smith & Wesson M&P 9
Sig 226
Sig 229
Ruger SR9
Beretta 92FS

Sig's weren't even on my list due to price, but out of the 7 handguns I've fired recently I did very well with the 226.
Had glocks on the list but after firing them in 3 calibers I just don't like them.

I was able to fire some rounds off on a few different handguns recently, H&K, several glocks, Sig 226
Beretta PX4, Walther 99, a few in 40 cal and a couple in 45cal.

So lets hear your opinions? The good, the bad, your experiences,
I'm pretty sure I'll be starting off with a 9mm, ammo on the .40 and .45 can get pricey.



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I was faced with the same question about a year ago. I read reviews and different peoples opinion, and there are as many opinions as guns. After shooting everything pretty much that was available i got a Smith and Wesson M&P9 in 9mm. If you shoot both the glock 17 and mp9 you'll notice that the glock's grip is more angled, meaning you have to push your wrist down a bit, supposedly helps manage the recoil but i found it uncomfortable. With the mp9 you also get 3 size interchangeable grips to fit all size hands...and it just looks sexier haha

As for gun range silverdale is the place to be. 100km from toronto but the people are great, and you can shoot anything you want and its open 7 days a week all daylight hours. I visited target and its small, only about 8-10 shooting lanes and its always crowded with people without a pal shooting everything off like its the movies. Silverdale is a huge outdoor range btw. Another thing Target is 700 a year silverdale is 240.

Also, i purchased my mp9 at al flaherty, 599 plus tax, it was the best price around. Very professional and courteous staff. Got my temp att in 2 days
 
Which 600 is better, Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki or Yamaha.....

I carried 226 and 229 for three years and they are great guns but you can get two M&P's for the price of either.

I personally like my Glock 17's (two for the price of one Sig) but if they don't feel right to you then you would be stupid to buy one obviously.

I personally hate Beretta 92's but some guys I shoot with are amazing with them.

Shoot as many different guns as you can if you feel a mediocre 9MM is how you want to learn the fine art of accuracy but you will find they are all pretty much the same.

If you want to do it right, buy a used Ruger 22 target pistol and see if you can blow the center ring out of your targets then move up.

It's not like you can carry it for personal defense and you aren't going to some life or death contractor job in the Middle East so....

Same as with bikes.....

Spraying 10 rounds down range that a large pizza could cover is like squidding a new 1000SS into a telephone pole at the local Tim's meet.
 
Which 600 is better, Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki or Yamaha.....

I carried 226 and 229 for three years and they are great guns but you can get two M&P's for the price of either.

I personally like my Glock 17's (two for the price of one Sig) but if they don't feel right to you then you would be stupid to buy one obviously.

I personally hate Beretta 92's but some guys I shoot with are amazing with them.

Shoot as many different guns as you can if you feel a mediocre 9MM is how you want to learn the fine art of accuracy but you will find they are all pretty much the same.

If you want to do it right, buy a used Ruger 22 target pistol and see if you can blow the center ring out of your targets then move up.

It's not like you can carry it for personal defense and you aren't going to some life or death contractor job in the Middle East so....

Same as with bikes.....

Spraying 10 rounds down range that a large pizza could cover is like squidding a new 1000SS into a telephone pole at the local Tim's meet.

Who cares since both are fun and will leave a giant grin on your face
 
Out of all the handguns i've fired I have the most fun with the 1911.

Mmmmm....i need to go back to the range.
 
I've got very limited experience with hand guns,....fired a few here and there, but I always wanted a revolver. From all the stuff I read I think I'd get a Ruger P100. Cool looking...takes two different types of ammo, magnum rounds and much cheaper rounds if you want to save some $, very popular and known to be reliable, etc.
 
whats the process to get a pistol here?? I've heard its more of a hassle than its worth.
 
The process starts with licensing. If you have little knowledge of firearms, I recommend taking the Canadian Firearms Safety Course (CFSC) and the Canadian Restricted Firearms Safety Course (CRFSC) - otherwise, you can challenge the examinations. http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/safe_sur/cour-res-eng.htm Most gun clubs offer these courses and google will give you an exhaustive list as well. To own a handgun or any other restricted firearm in Canada, you need the restricted endorsement on your Possession and Acquisition Licence (RPAL). In general, you may own/possess a handgun in Canada for two reasons: target shooting or as part of a collection. To satisfy the Canadian Firearms Centre and the Chief Firearms Office in Ontario, you must either belong to a club or have sufficient knowledge of the firearm or its historical significance. Collectors are subject to a lot more scrutiny, inspection and transfer requests are often denied. For the target shooter, all you need is membership at and use of a shooting club. It is not enough to just be a member, but you must also use the range more than 3 times per year, IIRC.

Once you have a firearms licence with the restricted endorsement you may be able to purchase a handgun (restricted firearm). It must be stored unloaded, trigger locked and inside a securely locked container or room that is difficult to break open or into. If stored in a safe or vault designed for the secure storage of firearms, a trigger lock is not required. Again, depending on your reasons for acquiring a handgun, you need to be a member of a shooting club or recognized by the CFC and CFO as a collector. Restricted firearms can only be stored in your home and may not be removed from your home without the authorization of the CFO. They can only be loaded and discharged at a range that has been approved by the CFO.

If you join a shooting club, an additional restricted firearm handling safety course is required to apply for a long-term authorization to transport restricted firearms (LTATT). That takes about 6-8 weeks. Then an application can be made to the CFO for a LTATT. Without it, you cannot transport a restricted firearm to an approved range for target practice. Short-term authorizations to transport (STATT) restricted firearms are only issued to those transporting firearms to border crossings, between purchasers/sellers/address changes, gunsmiths, airports, etc. Restricted firearms must be transported unloaded, locked in a sturdy container that is hard to break open or into. Once you have a LTATT, you can transport a restricted firearm to and from any approved range in your province subject to any conditions it has - i.e. it has not expired, the firearms are registered to you, you remain a member in good standing at a shooting club and your firearms license is valid are the most common in Ontario. You must also take a reasonably direct route, in all the circumstances, to and from an authorized/approved destination. The process is as much hassle as it is worth to you. With all the advice out there, it's not so hard jumping through all the hoops. It's a great sport with a lot of great people from all walks of life.

Join the Canadian Gun Nutz forum for a wealth of information, links to retailers and access to the equipment exchange where firearms and other related items are listed for sale. www.canadiangunnutz.com

D
o not buy any firearms, ammunition, parts or scopes from the US - in most cases, you need to be a Federal Firearms Licensed dealer in the US and you must have approved export permits. The import process can also be complex. It is a convoluted and dangerous process - beware!
 
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The m&p 9mm shoots nice, although the mag release is sketchy. It doesn't retain the mags well. They will fall out while firing. Other then that it has a nice feel to it.

I have the glock17. I like it, but not everybody fits them well.
 
If you like the 226, you can get it with a few improvements for less.. http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/54984-55.html This is based on the legendary CZ-99, since then copied by the Yanks, South Africans and the Israelis. Ironically, if you ordered the original from the factory, it would cost you more.
 
I like the Glock 17 as well. It is very inexpensive to shoot and there are lots of parts and accessories like laser sights, flashlights, carbine conversion kits, etc. They're dependable and very easy to take down and clean as well.
 

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