GST/HST Holiday

backmarkerducati said:
I expect the liberal playbook over the coming months... I am not sure Poilievre gets all of it.

Attempt to stay in power until the inevitable dumpster fire just south of us.
Blame the CPC and Poilievre for this bill not getting passed (filibuster), look they took money out of your hands at Christmas.
Toss a bone here and there to the NDP and Block to get to at least mid 2025.
Likely prorogue parliament at some point to get more time, CPC has also done this in the past...more than once.
Then, use the pain south of the border (even if one thinks the new administration there is all awesome sauce, they will cause big pain and bad optics if they do just some of what they say). Use the US to say look, Poilievre is Trump lite, Poilievre therefore bad in the election.
Good chance inflation and interest rates will look better.
Axe the Tax will lose steam as time goes on for many.
Pickoff a few CPC platform talking points like they did recently with immigration reduction, many areas where they were asleep at the wheel.
Mysteriously "leak" any non-liberal MPs named in the foreign interference report (if there are any).
Then add to this trying to time reproductive rights legislation and make it an election issue--the ace.

Sure the Sustainable Development Technology Canada fiasco is important but it is one of those political items that plays well to some but is a shoulder shrug to others. Shocking political corruptions, shocking... pigs at the trough, shocking... They all do it.

My worry is Poilievre and the CPC are actually playing into his hands. He needs to actually work with the NDP and Block to get a successful non-confidence vote sooner (now) rather than later (and already should have) as time in this case may benefit JT. He needs to get the security clearance to look at that list (my fear here is he is not applying as he thinks it might be denied?? otherwise why not??). An election today is a strong CPC majority, one mid to late next year is an unkown, why risk it, get it done, take the all but for sure win?
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The NDP are broke, even if they are polling slightly ahead of the Libs currently. They have few candidates picked out and their platform is now in shambles. They want time to build the war chest and create space from keeping the Libs in power since the last election. I don't see NDP voting no confidence unless the Bloc supports the government first.

The Bloc will probably align with the Cons moving forward. They painted themselves into a corner and unless they want to tap dance like the NDP they will be voting no confidence on everything going forward. By voting non confidence they are also putting pressure on the NDP to explain (again) how they can support a government they are trying to distance themselves from.
 
Singh was excited about this last week. After the blowback, now he says he won't support the bill unless the scope is greatly expanded. This 6B turd is quickly heading towards 15B+.

toronto.citynews.ca

NDP will not support Liberal GST holiday bill unless rebate expanded: Singh

NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh says his party will not support a Liberal plan to give Canadians a GST holiday and $250 unless the government expands eligibility for the cheques.
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"Singh says he’s open to passing the GST legislation, but the rebate needs to include seniors, students, people who are on disability benefits and those who were not able to work last year."
 
To be fair... if it is to help out people maybe help out those that need it most (lowest or no income). But we know it is about buying votes just like Doug's $200. BTW both the Block and NDP are in favour last I saw, just with more...

Checks are in the mail, ooops :)
 
crankcall said:
It’s good optics for team Singh , horrible expense for Canadians. What a steaming pile .


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Is it good optics? He negotiated for the program and was all in until other people looked and realized how flawed it was. Good optics would have been calling this a poorly designed steaming pile from the outset.
 
He’s the NDP , he’s supposed to be commie light .


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GreyGhost said:
Singh was excited about this last week. After the blowback, now he says he won't support the bill unless the scope is greatly expanded. This 6B turd is quickly heading towards 15B+.

toronto.citynews.ca

NDP will not support Liberal GST holiday bill unless rebate expanded: Singh

NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh says his party will not support a Liberal plan to give Canadians a GST holiday and $250 unless the government expands eligibility for the cheques.
toronto.citynews.ca toronto.citynews.ca

"Singh says he’s open to passing the GST legislation, but the rebate needs to include seniors, students, people who are on disability benefits and those who were not able to work last year."
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Costco now carries wine. With their pricing, the tax drop and the cheque I could afford a case of Italian red for Christmas
 
I think the majority of cost is tax . Even backing out GST then sin taxs ect would keep that price up .


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crankcall said:
I think the majority of cost is tax . Even backing out GST then sin taxs ect would keep that price up .


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LCBO is the mandated wholesaler and they only give a slight discount (10% IIRC) to resellers. If costco was allowed to sell kirkland vodka from their own supply chain, even with the taxes, it could be far cheaper.
 
It’s an old quote but the whisky producers in Ontario said without taxes the rye in Ontario could be sold for a couple bucks a bottle and show a profit .

wine under % this HST holiday will be fine by me , I’ll put a hundred bottles in the basement as a hedge against inflation.


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crankcall said:
It’s an old quote but the whisky producers in Ontario said without taxes the rye in Ontario could be sold for a couple bucks a bottle and show a profit .

wine under % this HST holiday will be fine by me , I’ll put a hundred bottles in the basement as a hedge against inflation.


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What are the odds that LCBO marks up bottles so no tax price is suspiciously close to taxed price but they get to book more profit?
 
The liberals gave millions to the we scandal, millions to arrive scam, millions to green slush funds.

How are you going to spend your $250 ?
 
ToSlow said:
The liberals gave millions to the we scandal, millions to arrive scam, millions to green slush funds.

How are you going to spend your $250 ?
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The 250 is in purgatory. Singh has backed himself into a corner. He either approves it and is a lier or kills it and is against the working man. We need a non-confidence vote asap. The billions are flowing out with no benefit.
 
GreyGhost said:
The 250 is in purgatory. Singh has backed himself into a corner. He either approves it and is a lier or kills it and is against the working man. We need a non-confidence vote asap. The billions are flowing out with no benefit.
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I thought I read something that it passed…
 
It’s the millions it costs to support this govt that is in the business of giving away millions I’m concerned with .
They have no money of thier own, it’s our money , so gifting it back in stupid fashion rather than giving two dozen hospitals an MRI machine , quite honestly burns my arse


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crankcall said:
It’s the millions it costs to support this govt that is in the business of giving away millions I’m concerned with .
They have no money of thier own, it’s our money , so gifting it back in stupid fashion rather than giving [emoji6] hospitals and MRI machine , quite honestly burns my arse


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Especially when it's all deficit money. Your grandkids and their grandkids will be paying interest on the cheques.
 
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