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My neighbours are muslim & they're having a giant arse party. Iwonder what they're celebrating?

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OMG OMG OMG OMG THEY SAID THE C WORD!!! Let everyone say what they want to, if you celebrate christmas say merry christmas, hanukkah say happy hanukkah, eid say Eid Mubarak or whatever you say, say it, if the person cant say thank you or you too then they can find a tall building and walk off it imho
 
...already posted on page 1 but I wanted to add something else. Wife and I went down to Toronto for some last minute Christmas shopping. We were on the subway and their were 4 young women of obvious Muslim faith but were raised in Canada. They spoke both English and their native tongue and 2 wore headscarves. But what really caught my attention was when 2 of them exited the train and said,"Merry Christmas!" to the others. Not really anything to do with GP but anyways...
 
...already posted on page 1 but I wanted to add something else. Wife and I went down to Toronto for some last minute Christmas shopping. We were on the subway and their were 4 young women of obvious Muslim faith but were raised in Canada. They spoke both English and their native tongue and 2 wore headscarves. But what really caught my attention was when 2 of them exited the train and said,"Merry Christmas!" to the others. Not really anything to do with GP but anyways...

I think it really doesn't matter what your believe or celebrate, the point of wishing someone a good holiday is just that. It doesn't matter what you believe or celebrate; they have nothing but good intentions with their saying. It's the thought the counts.





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As a Jew, I have nothing against them wishing people Merry Christmas. I do believe it's bad marketing though. They could have wished everyone a happy holiday, instead of alienating anyone that's not Christian.


uhhh...by far the most amount of people who buy bikes are CHRISTIANS....simple enough way to find out is read out their last names....

what alienation are you talking about ....

if canadian tire can have flyer with christmas on it ,all of a sudden it becomes bad for gp to wish it's clients xmass....

EDIT: I'm not Christian myself, but it's about damned time we start respecting what this country celebrates....
 
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+1 for Festivus

Happy Festivus to the rest of us.

+1 for CHRIST having nothing to do with Christmas. I have absolutely no love for being PC to everyone, but I found it kind of asinine. They won't be losing my business over it (as if they care lol).

uhhh...by far the most amount of people who buy bikes are CHRISTIANS....simple enough way to find out is read out their last names...

I have a North Irish/Scottish last name...I'm not even remotely Christian (not atheist either).
 
uhhh...by far the most amount of people who buy bikes are CHRISTIANS....simple enough way to find out is read out their last names....

what alienation are you talking about ....

if canadian tire can have flyer with christmas on it ,all of a sudden it becomes bad for gp to wish it's clients xmass....

EDIT: I'm not Christian myself, but it's about damned time we start respecting what this country celebrates....

The best data I can find shows Toronto's Christian population is about 60% (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Toronto). So that's approximately two out of five consumers that they are not reaching with their message.

I have absolutely nothing against them wishing people a merry Christmas, same with them quoting scripture, and the whole Jesus thing. At the end of the day it does nothing for me, positive or negative. My point was that they could have been more inclusive; wishing everyone a Happy Chanukah, Kwanza, and well wishes to anyone spending quality time with family and friends, would have reached a good number more people.
 
The best data I can find shows Toronto's Christian population is about 60% (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Toronto). So that's approximately two out of five consumers that they are not reaching with their message.

I have absolutely nothing against them wishing people a merry Christmas, same with them quoting scripture, and the whole Jesus thing. At the end of the day it does nothing for me, positive or negative. My point was that they could have been more inclusive; wishing everyone a Happy Chanukah, Kwanza, and well wishes to anyone spending quality time with family and friends, would have reached a good number more people.

Agreed. It's definitely alienating. No loss of business though; GP has constantly proven to be the best in Toronto for me. I'd be annoyed if I worked for them though.
 
Those who feel alienated by their beliefs, are the close minded ones.

And I'm not Christian.

Seems like most people just want to jump on anything they perceive to be a PC attack on religion. I don't see a single post in this thread that errs to political correctness.

I wonder how many of you would feel the same way if they sent out a similar mailing for Ramadan, quoting the Quran, ending with Salam aleikum (sp)?
 
Seems like most people just want to jump on anything they perceive to be a PC attack on religion. I don't see a single post in this thread that errs to political correctness.

I wonder how many of you would feel the same way if they sent out a similar mailing for Ramadan, quoting the Quran, ending with Salam aleikum (sp)?

I'd love to see it happen just to see the reaction.
 
Seems like most people just want to jump on anything they perceive to be a PC attack on religion. I don't see a single post in this thread that errs to political correctness.

I wonder how many of you would feel the same way if they sent out a similar mailing for Ramadan, quoting the Quran, ending with Salam aleikum (sp)?

I would feel the exact same as I do about this. Their business do what they want.
Plus, it's the thought that counts. What the greeting means, not where it originated.


And I agree with El Cockblock, the people feeling segregated due to not being christian are the real closed minded ones. They think someone having their own religion is oppression them, but in reality they're oppressing Christians by forcing them to not publicly display their religion.
Freedom of speech and preach, you have no right to tell someone they can't practice their religion. Nor do they have any right to do the same to you. (I'm not saying you in particular are doign it I'm using "you" in a more general/plural sense.)
 
I have no problem with anyone wishing me Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Happy Kwansa or what ever. I'll take it as a form of best wishes and not presume there is anything political behind it. But I must admit I was surprised that Jerry felt he had to take it that extra step to remind us of the "true reason" for the season. We all have our reasons to celebrate whatever we celebrate. Considering the Pagan origins of Christmas, plus the number of other holidays celebrated this time of year, I don't think Jerry's reason is any truer than anyone elses. I was also a little surpirsed to learn that the "whole team" at GP were christians. Interesting hiring policy!

Is this going to stop me from shopping there? Of course not, they have a great selection of gear, good service, and they are one of the few shops that let you test ride bikes. I'll just have to remember to not get into a casual conversation about religion.
 
And I agree with El Cockblock, the people feeling segregated due to not being christian are the real closed minded ones. They think someone having their own religion is oppression them, but in reality they're oppressing Christians by forcing them to not publicly display their religion.
Freedom of speech and preach, you have no right to tell someone they can't practice their religion. Nor do they have any right to do the same to you. (I'm not saying you in particular are doign it I'm using "you" in a more general/plural sense.)

Once again, this seems like a pre-emptive defence of people's right to religion. Has anyone in this thread said anything negative about people expressing their religion and their right to do so?
 
"I would've preferred they refer to him as Baby Jesus"
By far the best reply in here.... I am now a full supporter of GP bikes. Not because I am Christian or I believe in religion because I dont. Simply because I admire people that standing up for what they believe in and wont change for the main stream media in fear they may offend someone... However just because your here and your entitled to your beliefs and opinions. Dont try to take something from someone else because you dont apply to their situation but have to co-exist, IT WORKS BOTH WAYS. Last point cuz this is where ***** gone to far.... Halloween is HALLOWEEN!!!! NOT black and orange day THATS RIDICULOUS...... amen "baby Jesus"
 
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I just asked a simple question. December also features Hanukkah, Bodhi Day, Kwanzaa, and my personal favourite Festivus, among others....

If you are offended go start your own business and mail out whatever you want to your customers.
 

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