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Goodbye Peel Region...

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250R-ICE said:
I am also wondering how they figure all these costs savings. Its not like Brampton or Mississauge have their own water and waste water treatment plants. At the moment they are not maintaining the services under Peel Region e.g the Regional roads within Mississauga , the watermains , sanitary , sewers, bridges etc. All they are trying to do is fool everyone that all their portion of the property taxes that go to Peel Region to maintain the services within their boundaries will no longer be transferred. So it looks like there is a huge savings. What they havent mentioned is that now they will have take on the ownership and responsibilty to manintain that infrastructure.
The math doesnt add up. They all just want want more power. Get ready for property tax increases Mississauga. Once they realize the actual costs to maintain it all on a smaller scale , things become alot more costly. You got what you wished for.. All these years of complaining how much they transferred to Peel Region just to try to get out of paying their fair share. Will not come back to hit them hard.
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Mississauga and Brampton are both big enough to manage their own services and infrastructure. By going it alone, each gets to focus on the service needs of their constituents as a layer of municipal governing gets peeled off their backs (no pun intended).

Regional governments add a layer of bureaucracy which is known to hamper growth as it frustrates local planning and development. Removing an additional and unnecessary layer of bureaucracy is a good thing -- particularly when we need local gov'ts to get off their collective ***** so new housing can get off the ground.

It also gives local control over municipal service cost and delivery -- another area where removing a bureaucratic layer can increase efficiency.

I'm guessing (hoping) my city, Markham, will be next.
 
Mad Mike said:
Mississauga and Brampton are both big enough to manage their own services and infrastructure. By going it alone, each gets to focus on the service needs of their constituents as a layer of municipal governing gets peeled off their backs (no pun intended).

Regional governments add a layer of bureaucracy which is known to hamper growth as it frustrates local planning and development. Removing an additional and unnecessary layer of bureaucracy is a good thing -- particularly when we need local gov'ts to get off their collective ***** so new housing can get off the ground.

It also gives local control over municipal service cost and delivery -- another area where removing a bureaucratic layer can increase efficiency.

I'm guessing (hoping) my city, Markham, will be next.
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Durham, Halton, Niagara, Simcoe, Waterloo and York are being investigated now.
 
GreyGhost said:
It will be interesting to see this from an HR perspective. Peel employs a lot of people. How many will stick around to the bitter end? Imo, there will be a long lame-duck period where Peel is not sufficiently staffed to function properly but handover to municipalities hasn't happened yet. The alternative will be huge bonuses to keep staff around but what member municipality will want to cover those? For the good staff, will member municipalities be fighting to bring them in-house?
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I suspect lot of regional staff will follow the assignment of the assets to either Brampton or Mississauga. The big stuff wouldn't be duplicated, it will get assigned then shared by agreement.

As far as municipal staff leaving.... I doubt that. They are very specialised gov't workers -- where will an aquatic director, road works scheduler, public housing inspector go?
 
MacDoc said:
I recall Hazel frothing at the mouth over taking on shared anything with Brampton which was a poorly run cesspool.
Seems to me a divorce would serve Sauga well.
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I think the Brampton thing will be more structural in their finances. Mississauga is better run, less indebted, and once the regional liabilities hit the local balance sheets -- Brampton might become the more like Hamilton or Oshawa.
 
Mad Mike said:
I suspect lot of regional staff will follow the assignment of the assets to either Brampton or Mississauga. The big stuff wouldn't be duplicated, it will get assigned then shared by agreement.

As far as municipal staff leaving.... I doubt that. They are very specialised gov't workers -- where will an aquatic director, road works scheduler, public housing inspector go?
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I'm already updating my resume and taking extra courses, just in case.
 
Mad Mike said:
I think the Brampton thing will be more structural in their finances. Mississauga is better run, less indebted, and once the regional liabilities hit the local balance sheets -- Brampton might become the more like Hamilton or Oshawa.
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Is that better or worse for Brampton to be like Hamilton or Oshawa?

Not sure what’s best…
 
Brampton is still expanding large, won’t be long and they will be up to caledon
 
That’s a massive section of real estate . Oakville and Milton and Georgetown all had there own police, then the OPP took over , followed by the Halton region , which may now go back to village policing . Shares resources are not a bad idea , but I can see a lot of layers on this onion .


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crankcall said:
That’s a massive section of real estate . Oakville and Milton and Georgetown all had there own police, then the OPP took over , followed by the Halton region , which may now go back to village policing . Shares resources are not a bad idea , but I can see a lot of layers on this onion .


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Will the multi million dollar fire trucks be allowed to cross the borders?
 
I don't understand why she would push for the split up of Peel and now thinking of bailing out of the Mayor's seat and joining provincial politics.

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oioioi said:
I don't understand why she would push for the split up of Peel and now thinking of bailing out of the Mayor's seat and joining provincial politics.

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Just setting herself up either way. If she doesn’t get the nod for Liberal leader she’ll keep at it as mayor and run with the split.

If she gets the nod for liberal leadership, she’ll dump her position and let someone else deal with it.

Not her money, so she can do whatever she wants.
 
mimico_polak said:
Just setting herself up either way. If she doesn’t get the nod for Liberal leader she’ll keep at it as mayor and run with the split.

If she gets the nod for liberal leadership, she’ll dump her position and let someone else deal with it.

Not her money, so she can do whatever she wants.
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I don't like people flip flopping.

Hazel could have run for provincial or federal government and won by a mile but never did. She would have done a better job then whoever was in power at the time in those seats.
 
backmarkerducati said:
My theory.... Mississauga has been arm waving about this for a long time, so why is Ford listening to them now? There has been lots of noise about Bonnie Crombie becoming the next Ontario Liberal leader. Ford is using this as an opportunity to per-emptively take her out. She is unlikely and/or looks really bad to step down as mayor when this is (or even maybe) going through. It will also likely be ugly (specially in Peel outside of Mississauga) and that will taint her politically.

In the end all this to keep his gravy train running.
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You were correct all along.
 
oioioi said:
I don't like people flip flopping.

Hazel could have run for provincial or federal government and won by a mile but never did. She would have done a better job then whoever was in power at the time in those seats.
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Flip flopping is one thing. Changing one’s stance in light of new info is alright to me.

However in this case….she’s just doing politician things. Doesn’t care for the people she represents, just her own ambitions.
 
mimico_polak said:
Flip flopping is one thing. Changing one’s stance in light of new info is alright to me.

However in this case….she’s just doing politician things. Doesn’t care for the people she represents, just her own ambitions.
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Well in light of other things happening like MZOs throwing wrenches in plans that have been decades in the works... why not, why not take that position for herself. And Fords reign will come to an end at some point
 
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