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mimico_polak

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WTF is Crombie on about? Saving $1B over a decade to Mississauga from separating from Brampton? I'm usually very wary of any solid claims to be made by any politician, but saving $1B just sounds like a good soundbite more than anything.

How do you split out: water, ww, garbage, recycling, police, health services, fire, paramedics, schools, etc etc etc...

Unfortunately this one affects me directly as I'm in Mississauga, may be time to move out if things go as good as amalgamation has gone for CoT.

Politicians doing politician things.
 
mimico_polak said:
WTF is Crombie on about? Saving $1B over a decade to Mississauga from separating from Brampton? I'm usually very wary of any solid claims to be made by any politician, but saving $1B just sounds like a good soundbite more than anything.

How do you split out: water, ww, garbage, recycling, police, health services, fire, paramedics, schools, etc etc etc...

Unfortunately this one affects me directly as I'm in Mississauga, may be time to move out if things go as good as amalgamation has gone for CoT.

Politicians doing politician things.
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Crombie is touting saving 1B over a decade and douggie and Brown are talking about a transfer payment of 1-2B from Miss to Brampton to cover the infrastructure that brampton paid for but mississauga will keep. That's $1200-2500 for every person in Mississauga. So more than one years property tax. That will be fun to cover. Quebec should take note about how fun and easy succession is.
 
I am also wondering how they figure all these costs savings. Its not like Brampton or Mississauge have their own water and waste water treatment plants. At the moment they are not maintaining the services under Peel Region e.g the Regional roads within Mississauga , the watermains , sanitary , sewers, bridges etc. All they are trying to do is fool everyone that all their portion of the property taxes that go to Peel Region to maintain the services within their boundaries will no longer be transferred. So it looks like there is a huge savings. What they havent mentioned is that now they will have take on the ownership and responsibilty to manintain that infrastructure.
The math doesnt add up. They all just want want more power. Get ready for property tax increases Mississauga. Once they realize the actual costs to maintain it all on a smaller scale , things become alot more costly. You got what you wished for.. All these years of complaining how much they transferred to Peel Region just to try to get out of paying their fair share. Will not come back to hit them hard.
 
250R-ICE said:
I am also wondering how they figure all these costs savings. Its not like Brampton or Mississauge have their own water and waste water treatment plants. At the moment they are not maintaining the services under Peel Region e.g the Regional roads within Mississauga , the watermains , sanitary , sewers, bridges etc. All they are trying to do is fool everyone that all their portion of the property taxes that go to Peel Region to maintain the services within their boundaries will no longer be transferred. So it looks like there is a huge savings. What they havent mentioned is that now they will have take on the ownership and responsibilty to manintain that infrastructure.
The math doesnt add up. They all just want want more power. Get ready for property tax increases Mississauga. Once they realize the actual costs to maintain it all on a smaller scale , things become alot more costly. You got what you wished for.. All these years of complaining how much they transferred to Peel Region just to try to get out of paying their fair share. Will not come back to hit them hard.
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On the other hand, each municipality will now need to have it's financial house in order (or failures exposed). Peel allowed lots of finger pointing. "Ignore McCallions ponzi scheme, it's bramptons fault that our infrastructure is falling apart.". For the near future, they can keep making this argument but once we get a few years out, the failures become harder to hide.
 
My theory.... Mississauga has been arm waving about this for a long time, so why is Ford listening to them now? There has been lots of noise about Bonnie Crombie becoming the next Ontario Liberal leader. Ford is using this as an opportunity to per-emptively take her out. She is unlikely and/or looks really bad to step down as mayor when this is (or even maybe) going through. It will also likely be ugly (specially in Peel outside of Mississauga) and that will taint her politically.

In the end all this to keep his gravy train running.
 
backmarkerducati said:
My theory.... Mississauga has been arm waving about this for a long time, so why is Ford listening to them now? There has been lots of noise about Bonnie Crombie becoming the next Ontario Liberal leader. Ford is using this as an opportunity to per-emptively take her out. She is unlikely and/or looks really bad to step down as mayor when this is (or even maybe) going through. It will also likely be ugly (specially in Peel outside of Mississauga) and that will taint her politically.

In the end all this to keep his gravy train running.
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She said she wasnt interested at the provincial level. Plus I think shes a huge Ford supporter.
 
matthew said:
Jan 1, 2025
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One would assume that this would allow a doubling of high level city employees, and advisors.
 
Baggsy said:
One would assume that this would allow a doubling of high level city employees, and advisors.
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It will be interesting to see this from an HR perspective. Peel employs a lot of people. How many will stick around to the bitter end? Imo, there will be a long lame-duck period where Peel is not sufficiently staffed to function properly but handover to municipalities hasn't happened yet. The alternative will be huge bonuses to keep staff around but what member municipality will want to cover those? For the good staff, will member municipalities be fighting to bring them in-house?
 
We could always amalgamate and form the GTA ( Greatest Toronto Area).
 
I recall Hazel frothing at the mouth over taking on shared anything with Brampton which was a poorly run cesspool.
Seems to me a divorce would serve Sauga well.
 
MacDoc said:
I recall Hazel frothing at the mouth over taking on shared anything with Brampton which was a poorly run cesspool.
Seems to me a divorce would serve Sauga well.
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