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Sativa Quemador said:
thats the part that doesnt make sense... you would think if you were attacked you'd tell someone a friend/family/police/ anyone.
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But you don't because you're too embarassed to relate the incident to anyone else, you just want to block it out of your mind, the person who assaulted you is in a position of power that can negatively affect your career, is in a position of power and more likely to be believed in a he said/she said, or all of the above. It's not too difficult to understand. Isn't the statistic given something over 90% of sexual assault is not reported? There have to be reasons for that.
 
Sativa Quemador said:
thats the part that doesnt make sense... you would think if you were attacked you'd tell someone a friend/family/police/ anyone.
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But reality is independent of what you think. There is a verity of reason people don't report assaults especially sexualized ones. This argument is under the same quality as "If he was abusive why did he stay with him...its her own fault". Its an attempt to victim blame.
 
Sativa Quemador said:
why was this guy fired ? did he do a bad job ?

if anyone thinks that their employer has the right to fire you for what you do in the bedroom, we gonna have a whole ******** of unemployed people

i know a chick that loves facials. should i call her employer and tell them ?
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Sativa Quemador said:
so what about a female cop ? politician, teacher, judge, cashier, subway sandwich artist.

anyone thats employed basically represents their company
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Sativa Quemador said:
so does this mean that anyone who engages in BDSM can/will be fired ? ( within CBC )

what if both people agree to the bdsm ?

theres so much grey in this matter... almost 50 shades of it.
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Sativa Quemador said:
I dont think they were assaulted.

I think they wanted to try something new, and found out it wasnt for them.
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Amazing analysis!

How many people stepping up would it take for you to think "hmmm... maybe there's more to this than just fabricated lies by 9 people, all with the same story?".
 
Sativa Quemador said:
I dont think they were assaulted.

I think they wanted to try something new, and found out it wasnt for them.
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What the very little details thats been currently make available to public makes you think that or does that idea just fit in with your idea that women are all vengeful people

Sativa Quemador said:
as far as trust ? no way. I dont trust any of them, they are all manipulative witches.
but they are all cute and if you'e lucky you'll get one that didnt get the ***** gene.
I dont care what anyone says... nothing is more evil than a jilted ex-girlfriend,
they take it to another level
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Two50noob said:
What the very little details thats been currently make available to public makes you think that or does that idea just fit in with your idea that women are all vengeful people
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becasue they are. LOL

and its no secret that JG was an *******.

according to some BDSM is illegal. so consent or not doesnt matter. its also been filmed. a legal slam dunk.

all ive said since day one is that what went on behind closed doors was between 2 consenting people.
 
Dresden said:
Amazing analysis!

How many people stepping up would it take for you to think "hmmm... maybe there's more to this than just fabricated lies by 9 people, all with the same story?".
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they arent lying about what happened, Ive never said it didnt happen.

I just think they have been swayed by others to tell their story, becasue aparentlly consent doesnt matter
 
Sativa Quemador said:
becasue they are. LOL
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Right is does not matter what actual happened you know all women so they cant be telling the truth.

Sativa Quemador said:
according to some BDSM is illegal. so consent or not doesnt matter. its also been filmed. a legal slam dunk.
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BDSM isn't illegal the what has been said is that the law is written in a way that could potentially criminalise some activities member of the BDSM scene like to partake in. However know one in the scene has been prosecuted.

Sativa Quemador said:
all ive said since day one is that what went on behind closed doors was between 2 consenting people.
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The accounts of the 9 women dispute that fact. Within a BDSM situation acts and boundaries are disclosed before hand in all accounts the violent actions occurred without consent of 1 of the parties making these assaults.
 
Rob MacLennan said:
It only doesn't make sense if you can't put yourself in that other person's shoes.
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Post of the day. Not understanding other people is a huge barrier to a smooth functioning society. Some people still think telling a bum to "get a job" solves that problem, for example.
This is why I get so ****** off at posers and show offs. Deep down I'm just like them and I know exactly what they're trying to achieve at my expense.
 
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Sativa Quemador said:
they arent lying about what happened, Ive never said it didnt happen.

I just think they have been swayed by others to tell their story, becasue aparentlly consent doesnt matter
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I just don't think you get how industry-politics work.
If you want to educate yourself, start here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pecking_order


I too want to believe it's just BS being thrown at him.. but when 9 people step forward (now that JG is being outed as being a scumbag by the media) it's not so mindbogglingly difficult for them to do so. Which might explain why they are all coming out of the woodwork. That's usually how these things work!

Whether he is a proven-scumbag or not is up to the courts to handle.
 
this sounds like the Rob Ford investigation all over again..

after all. one victime says it was bill blair himself that convinced her to come forward.

im Sorry, but i still believe the guy.

I will wait until a conviction until saying otherwise, but then again, he hasnt even been charged yet and you all want to hang the dude.

can you look objectively and say without a shadow of doubt that he did all this without consent ?... cause i cant.

He's made no secret about what he does. he has shared it freely. he hasnt hidden.

another thing that kind of annoys me.. why the anonymity ?

this is maybe for another thread, but public accusation can be worse than being found innocent.. so why should accusers be allowed to hide behind it ?
i know that its good for underage people, and for protection, but what protection is req'd here ?
 
Sativa Quemador said:
I dont think you know how the legal system works

If you want to educate yourself, try this..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presumption_of_innocence
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Yawn.


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Sativa Quemador said:
can you look objectively and say without a shadow of doubt that he did all this without consent ?... cause i cant.
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You cant say that ever with anything. Its not the standard of evidence we even hold courts to and its not one that you can usefully use in day to day life
 
Sativa Quemador said:
I dont think you know how the legal system works

If you want to educate yourself, try this..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presumption_of_innocence
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"Any person charged with an offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty according to law in a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal".

This refers to legal repercussions but not the discussion by the publics about those charges. Since he's not in prison i would assume the charter right is being applied.
 
its not a conspiricy you fool.

its the ****ing law. show me proof that they didnt give consent. he said she siad.

theres video of the women NOT Leaving. NOT calling 911 for help...


I believe that says more than them saying they were forced
 
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