Gardner construction could take as long as TWENTY YEARS.

Who's the largest Vespa + Rukus dealer downtown?

Time to acquire!
 
this is the largest racket on the city of Toronto. 20yrs of job security.

Why not just tear it down and rebuild it? I'm sure it won't take 20 years.
 
this is the largest racket on the city of Toronto. 20yrs of job security.

Why not just tear it down and rebuild it? I'm sure it won't take 20 years.

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this is the largest racket on the city of Toronto. 20yrs of job security.

Why not just tear it down and rebuild it? I'm sure it won't take 20 years.


You jest. To build it, it would take 40 years. 4 guys to operate the machinery, 33 to stand around and observe that they are doing it right.
 
I'll take "Problems I'll never have to deal with because I live in the country" for 1000, Alex. ;-)

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Why not just tear it down and rebuild it? I'm sure it won't take 20 years.

Because in a city where people get into bidding wars >$1M shacks, they are broke and leveraged up to wazoo, which means they vote for high school dropout drug addicts who promise no tax increases. What these politicians then do is put off infrastructure investment and ignore upkeep, unless they can deflect the cost to some stupid sports even like the Pan Am games.

The problem with Toronto is that they have been doing this for 30 years, and the city went from 2M to 5.5M with exactly the same roads. The other problem is that all the road construction in Ontario is in the hands of three companies who manipulate everything (and people blame unions), and very poor planning, which is why they decided to upgrade the Gardner and Lakeshore AT THE SAME TIME.

Transit expansion? new Gardner? I've been hearing that since I was a kid. Won't happen until Toronto taxes come up to national levels, meanwhile, we will see bridge collapses like Quebec.
 
There's the million jobs initiative right there, hire more construction crew, engineers, etc. Get this cranked out in a couple years. bam. done.

Penalties for over-runs on contracts should be enforced heavily and doubled. Watch work get done then...
 
I lived downtown since 2008. North York now. 2 years ago this city really started grating on me. Traffic because of construction, "events" on weekends, etc... I made a plan and TOMORROW I'm executing. Screw this city. It's trying so hard to fail; I sortof noticed that when I moved hear from Alberta. Check my rants on Torontonians sub-optimal outcome seeking algorithms. The denizens can eat themselves. We bought a house in Oshawa for 100k less than our condo is worth. We have a bigger yard than I ever dreamed in my life, garage, parks nearby.
Toronto henceforth will be a point where I insert myself each morning and extricate myself each evening and collect a paycheque. My commute will be 15 minutes longer each way. Oh damn TTC!!! I won't be getting my daily virus update anymore.
My wife and I work near each other, so we drive in together (really early). My only ***** in life will be the 401/DVP/Bloor and back again.
 
this is the largest racket on the city of Toronto. 20yrs of job security.

Why not just tear it down and rebuild it? I'm sure it won't take 20 years.

Any racket is grean light just as long as you dont collect donations for a boys football team by writing the donation request on a city letterhead that you paid for so the tax payers dont have to pay for it.

Thats where the line in the sand is drawn!!!


"If i was educated, I'd be a damn fool"
 
There's the million jobs initiative right there, hire more construction crew, engineers, etc. Get this cranked out in a couple years. bam. done.

Penalties for over-runs on contracts should be enforced heavily and doubled. Watch work get done then...

Exactly!!!!!

100000%

Can some one email and ask why are we not creating jobs by hiring a few thousand more workers to work on the Gardner?


"If i was educated, I'd be a damn fool"
 
Because in a city where people get into bidding wars >$1M shacks, they are broke and leveraged up to wazoo, which means they vote for high school dropout drug addicts who promise no tax increases. What these politicians then do is put off infrastructure investment and ignore upkeep, unless they can deflect the cost to some stupid sports even like the Pan Am games.

The problem with Toronto is that they have been doing this for 30 years, and the city went from 2M to 5.5M with exactly the same roads. The other problem is that all the road construction in Ontario is in the hands of three companies who manipulate everything (and people blame unions), and very poor planning, which is why they decided to upgrade the Gardner and Lakeshore AT THE SAME TIME.

Transit expansion? new Gardner? I've been hearing that since I was a kid. Won't happen until Toronto taxes come up to national levels, meanwhile, we will see bridge collapses like Quebec.

Funny you say that, just this week we almost had the 427 north ramp off 401 come down...
 
Penalties for over-runs on contracts should be enforced heavily and doubled. Watch work get done then...
the problem with that is if they get a fine, and they think they can't pay it they file for bankruptcy. Then the job stops on a dime and the city has to scramble to find someone else to complete the job.

Then the bidding process starts all over again, and a year later, work continues.
 
Most smaller jobs are paid on delivery and deficiencies are subtracted from the payment. I dunno how a job of this caliber would go, but I suppose a payment schedule could be arranged.


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this is the largest racket on the city of Toronto. 20yrs of job security.

Why not just tear it down and rebuild it? I'm sure it won't take 20 years.

No, it would not, it would probably take 40 years and cost 200% more than the budget approval.
 
Exactly!!!!!

100000%

Can some one email and ask why are we not creating jobs by hiring a few thousand more workers to work on the Gardner?


"If i was educated, I'd be a damn fool"

Because you (Toronto) cannot afford it. Remember the property tax increases artificially kept low, so you have one of the lowest in North America? The government will refuse to cover it, so it has to some from some place ... the list is long .. .aging pipes, hydro grid, hurting public transit ... not a good outlook for Toronto is it?
 
"It's New York run by the Swiss!" Ah, Peter Ustinov, you were such a sly joker.
 
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