First ride?? Advice please??
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skip
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Would an RG500 be better?
skitta
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....I think I'm ready to transition to something more mechanical, but safe... please.
Thanks
First, if you haven't taken the course, do that at least. I've owned and ridden a CBR125. I now ride a Kawasaki 250 ZZR. Don't be bullied into starting on something you are not ready for. The 125 and 250 are great starter bikes, and safe. Also, you will probably be told that you will outgrow the 125/250 in x amount of months. That is not a fact; that is an opinion. Again, don't be bullied. Ride what you are comfortable riding; what you can afford. Good luck!
Roomie
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youngrider
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I crashed on a 650r and im fine, r1 should be okay from what i hear on this forum you gotta try it to know! Nothing can be taught through books or videos, just buy it and ride!
Wait until you ask about push steering :O
Wait until you ask about push steering :O
It depends completely on the rider whether or not they will be able to handle the bike, every single person will have a different starting skill set. Some people are naturals, others need to work hard and put in the miles to get the basics down, others fall in the middle of that scale. First take the course, that will give you a bit of feeling of whether or not you even want to think about getting an R1 to start out with. Keep in mind when you do the course through RTI, you'll have a chance to use the CBR125, which has a 0-60 time of ~10 seconds. a 250 (Kawasaki or Honda) is between 7-8. the bike you're looking at will do it in 3.0 the 1/4 mile in 10.3 (with an experienced rider) but it still gives you some perspective of the complete power difference between the two, as well as the margin of error available with both bikes. a twist of the wrist on the smaller bike gives you plenty more time to correct your error before your in the back of another vehicle or wall, on a larger bike, not so much. Just something to keep in mind
Crashing in your first week on the road isn't really something to be bragging about. Also you should be careful what you say in new riders threads, I understand where your sarcasm is coming from after reading your post bike crash thread, but this new rider might not. There is obviously some doubt in his mind about whether he should be starting on a bike like an R1 otherwise he wouldn't be asking on here. I'm not a moderator or anything, and by no means an experienced rider (looking at my post history you can easily find out I'm still in my first season) but this guy here might actually think you know what you're talking about and take your advice, which in this post is nothing but bad advice. Try to remember that when you're talking to people who haven't had any seat time what so ever they are very impressionable
Crashing in your first week on the road isn't really something to be bragging about. Also you should be careful what you say in new riders threads, I understand where your sarcasm is coming from after reading your post bike crash thread, but this new rider might not. There is obviously some doubt in his mind about whether he should be starting on a bike like an R1 otherwise he wouldn't be asking on here. I'm not a moderator or anything, and by no means an experienced rider (looking at my post history you can easily find out I'm still in my first season) but this guy here might actually think you know what you're talking about and take your advice, which in this post is nothing but bad advice. Try to remember that when you're talking to people who haven't had any seat time what so ever they are very impressionable
I think people in this forum get bullied into starting with a 250 and then regret it
Agreed
Rnoodles
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I personally like the RZ. I think there more rare to as they only made them a couple years. Both are the same literally.
Roomie
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That said I've met some people not just from this forum but either way, it's been a good thing they're on a 250. It does depend a lot on the person.
Rnoodles
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A 250 is more then enough bike for complete beginners.
In your experience, your experience is not the reality for everyone.
Exactly
This topic was discussed many times in here, my only comment was to the "bullying people into starting with a bigger bike" comment.
I still think the OP is trolling
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While starting on a small bike was a good idea, I felt my 250 was a waste of time and energy with the buying and reselling.
skitta
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That may have been the case for you.
But, I would rather see a new rider "waste time and energy with the buying and reselling", gain some experience on a lower displacement motorcycle. Than, starting off on a larger displacement motorcycle and not living to have an opportunity to waste that time and energy. As a matter of fact, in my opinion, any experience is not a waste of time and energy.
And note, I did say to the OP "ride what you are comfortable riding".
Roomie
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Fully agree. Also there are a lot of riders learning in a city type environment. Supersports are slight overkill to learn on in these places.
see, here it comes the "you will die" famous words.
Roomie
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I'm not on the you will die kick. I just think bigger bikes are overkill for most new riders and your chances of dumping something with more power are exponentially larger. That said there are some that start out on things like 1000's and are just fine. Every individual is different.
And providing this information to a new rider is a complete sensible thing to do, telling them they will die to me is being a bully ( this is not directed at you).
Plus, bigger bikes are a overkill for ANY rider on the street, the point of buying them is for enjoyment, not because you will use the full potential. People focus on the bigger power part, but they don't understand also the "better performance" part, better brakes, better handling etc etc.
Going at 100km hr and having a car brake in front of me hard out of the blue, I would rather be on a gsxt 1000 with Brenmbo brakes than on a 250 with whatever the hell those crappy brakes are.
Acceleration is achieved and controlled by your wrist, braking power and better suspension to take turns etc are only available on a bigger bike.
Don't get me wrong, I think riders like "youngrider" shouldn't be riding even a skate board but there are others that should star on a 600/1000 if they wish and respect the machine and those people probably will not because Bullies in here will come out and say "YOU WILL DIE"
Give facts and leave the doom comments for yourselves and let them make their own decisions
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skip
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Like how the RZ's are set up personally or the NSR400s. My preference would actually be a TZR250 if I had a chance to pick up a street two-smoke. The RG I always felt was out to actively kill you when you rode it, but it was always a thrilling ride.
MAVERICK KING
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I'm a newbie and started on a 250 and thank the Lord that i read that article about 600c/c bikes not being a beginner bike. i'm 6'4" and around 220lb and have heard all the advice about why i would get bored on this bike after a month or two, nothing but bush.
