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First crash for me as well :( Watch the speed bumps at the forks of the credit guys!

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acernec said:
What's wrong with some people on this forum. The guy made a mistake and crashed, it can happen to all of us. I don't understand why people are lecturing that he follows too closely or if he could do it in tests, he should be able to do it here. A closed circuit is much different from a real life scenario. Some people just need a punch in the head to wise up a little.
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I would imagine that the replies aren't for the OP, they are for newer riders that may be reading this. They will be thinking that it could happen to them at anytime for no reason at all. The OP was following to close, period. It was no ones fault but his own. How many times just on this site have people been told to ride as if all cagers are idiots and want to kill you. If he had been riding with that mindset, he would have not been following to close.

No need to punch someone in the head. No one is lecturing him at all, just clarifying.


And fwiw, if there's still only the two, I rode there the day they were installing them and going the speed limit you have MORE than enough time to be riding perfectly straight and no reason you wouldn't be able to stop.
 
Hey, glad you made it. Count your blessings and ride safe.
 
MacDoc said:
ALL crashes are a combination of factors.....you're being completely simplistic - the rider knows what happened - you don't.

The bumps were a factor - the truck driver stopped unexpectly for no visible reason to the rider.
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That's still something we're supposed to be prepared for. If everything that happened out on the roads was predictable, safety would never be a concern.
 
MacDoc said:
ALL crashes are a combination of factors.....you're being completely simplistic - the rider knows what happened - you don't.

The bumps were a factor - the truck driver stopped unexpectly for no visible reason to the rider.
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My initial thought of the rider was that he didn't seem to admit that it was him following too closely rather then the speed bump. I already have given why i think this was the case from my previous post.
 
The point that I was trying to make is that the crash was quite avoidable, bikes are not so inherently unstable that front wheel lock ups are inevitable and with practice and awareness you can improve your skills and have a more enjoyable, safer riding experience. I'm not running anybody down, just saying that you should have higher expectations. I've been riding for many years, do my own maintenance and repairs, used to race .....yadda yadda yadda..........I know I'm an old fart nowadays but I know of what I speak.
 
stnd said:
[video=youtube;Du-OleNe1A0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du-OleNe1A0&hd=1[/video]
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sorry about the crash, but awesome dismount! :cool:
 
These new "speed bumps" are taking everyone for a surprise. No one expects a speed bump to be right in the middle of open country road. They do have a "new" sign...but they really should have a flashing amber to warn of this new speed impediment. OP, you could rightly call the township of Caledon, even the Mayor, and tell him this story. I suspect there will be a few more bikes sideways as people learn of them. Hand the bill for your repairs to the township of Caledon and tell them you were lucky to not have been killed. They need flashing ambers.
 
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Prince said:
These new "speed bumps" are taking everyone for a surprise. No one expects a speed bump to be right in the middle of open country road. They do have a "new" sign...but they really should have a flashing amber to warn of this new speed impediment. OP, you could rightly call the township of Caledon, even the Mayor, and tell him this story. I suspect there will be a few more bikes sideways as people learn of them. Hand the bill for your repairs to the township of Caledon and tell them you were lucky to not have been killed. They need flashing ambers.
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Lol, yes

Dear mr. Mayor, I was following a vehicle to close and couldn't stop in time and damaged my bike. Here is a bill for the repairs. I expect full compensation within 5 business days.
 
imnothng said:
Lol, yes

Dear mr. Mayor, I was following a vehicle to close and couldn't stop in time and damaged my bike. Here is a bill for the repairs. I expect full compensation within 5 business days.
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You have to make it more formal.

To Whom May Concern,
Due to a new speed bump, it has caused a truck driver to stop abruptly which then caused me to lock up my front breaks because i was following too closely and panic breaked. Attached is a bill for the repairs done to the bike. I hope to hear from you soon.

Sincerely, James Bond.
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fusion2k said:
Following a pickup truck towing a landscape type smaller trailer, on the forks of the credit road heading toward Belfountain, bottom of the hill. I was following at a safe distance, not going very fast (maybe 40/50ish), and the truck decides to come to a DEAD STOP at the speed bump. I lock up my front breaks, skid, bike does a front end wobble and throws me off. I slid for maybe 10-15 feet on my left side, bike slides past me and under the trailer. Luckily trailer driver moved up, parked and got out. Driver was good, helped me and the bike up. Sprained my left shoulder, and left ankle, road rash on foot and left side. Didnt go to hospital right away but road home and ended up going later on. Had leather jacket, decent riding boots, and jeans. Jeans got the least of the impact. Bike (01 vfr800) had frame sliders but still scratched the left side upper fairing, front birdcage scraped/cracked, front headlight housing cracked. Damage is fixable but still not going to be cheap. Between me and the bike, I'm done for the season, but will be back on for sure next spring.

Ride safe guys, and watch those damn speed bumps at the forks....
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If anyone wants to get anything out of this incident, let's look at it a little more closely:

First off if the rider was following at a safe distance he would have had time to stop.

The truck driver is likely made an error in judgement. He likley wasn't paying attention, saw the speed bumps at the last minute and braked suddenly. Regardless the fact that a pickup towing a trailer could stop faster than a motorcycle like a VFR 800 implies the rider is inexperienced. A rider needs to always be aware that other vehicles may do something unexpected. Your life depends on it.

Locking up the front brakes in a panic situation is another sign of inexperience. A bike slows down much faster if rubber is used as the friction material rather than plastic or metal.

"Watch those damn speed bumps" among other statements implies the rider does not believe he is at fault. In this situation the rider is indeed to blame. When a rider makes a mistake like this they need to evaluate the situation to determine the root cause and take steps to ensure it doesn't happen again. Laying blame on speed bumps helps no one. Further riding instruction, track days, practice braking, etc, are all good ways to improve skill level and a riders ability to stay on the bike.

Whenever I make a mistake on a bike I evaluate what I did wrong and take steps to prevent it happening again. I hope the OP does the same.
 
BrianZ said:
If anyone wants to get anything out of this incident, let's look at it a little more closely:

First off if the rider was following at a safe distance he would have had time to stop.

The truck driver is likely made an error in judgement. He likley wasn't paying attention, saw the speed bumps at the last minute and braked suddenly. Regardless the fact that a pickup towing a trailer could stop faster than a motorcycle like a VFR 800 implies the rider is inexperienced. A rider needs to always be aware that other vehicles may do something unexpected. Your life depends on it.

Locking up the front brakes in a panic situation is another sign of inexperience. A bike slows down much faster if rubber is used as the friction material rather than plastic or metal.

"Watch those damn speed bumps" among other statements implies the rider does not believe he is at fault. In this situation the rider is indeed to blame. When a rider makes a mistake like this they need to evaluate the situation to determine the root cause and take steps to ensure it doesn't happen again. Laying blame on speed bumps helps no one. Further riding instruction, track days, practice braking, etc, are all good ways to improve skill level and a riders ability to stay on the bike.

Whenever I make a mistake on a bike I evaluate what I did wrong and take steps to prevent it happening again. I hope the OP does the same.
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The rider does admits that he was following too closely at a later post but with a bad tone. and that was the reason why i joined this thread.
 
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acernec said:
What's wrong with some people on this forum. The guy made a mistake and crashed, it can happen to all of us. I don't understand why people are lecturing that he follows too closely or if he could do it in tests, he should be able to do it here. A closed circuit is much different from a real life scenario. Some people just need a punch in the head to wise up a little.
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It's a proven fact that if you lecture someone on the Interweb, it automatically means that you are better than them in real life.

100% true.
 
Another thing for all to take away from this....if I read the orginal post correctly, it seems that the emergency braking that needed to be executed was on a downhill slope. Question for you all...I know you all practice your threshold braking regularly (right???), but how many ever try it on a steep downhill? I can attest, it is a distinct skill. I personally always found it terrifying.

Hint for you...if you are one of those believers in using both brakes to stop in the shortest distance, be preared for some interesting behaviour from the rear end!
 
stnd said:
We all make mistakes.

And we all know what we could have done better after the fact. Glad you are ok. Save some coin and patch up/fix/replace what you need to and enjoy the sport/hobby.

[video=youtube;Du-OleNe1A0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du-OleNe1A0&hd=1[/video]
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Lmfao, that has got to be one of the funniest race crashes I've seen. Sry man... You had a full 7 seconds on that grass to think about how ****ed you are lmaoooo.... What were you thinking in that moment lool... Nice dismount too.
 
YellowDuck said:
Hint for you...if you are one of those believers in using both brakes to stop in the shortest distance, be preared for some interesting behaviour from the rear end!
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I posted this earlier in the thread, but if you are braking at the limit the back of your supersport bike will be nowhere close to the pavement. If anything, it will be a struggle not to flip the bike over even on a flat road. Downhill I can only imagine it's crazy. :D
 
Lightcycle said:
It's a proven fact that if you lecture someone on the Interweb, it automatically means that you are better than them in real life.

100% true.
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You're on too much of a highhorse for my liking. You really should learn to be a nicer person when you're posting in a thread like this... </lecture>
 
JFD said:
You're on too much of a highhorse for my liking. You really should learn to be a nicer person when you're posting in a thread like this... </lecture>
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actually, he is a pretty nice guy...just saying...
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