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Fak her right in Pus**: feminists need to suck the big one!
- Thread starter Dreamy Boom Boom
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I like seeing hydro commercial... Like if we have any other option
I don't understand how this is remotely funny. Its not clever or comical. I guess I don't find harassing people doing their jobs funny. Would you care if someone came to your work and started ruining your product?
I had some ******* try and do this leaning out of his pickup while I was shooting a segment for a Client and ruined our best take forcing us to start over. Guy almost hit the pedestrians crossing the street and sped off when I approached him like a little coward.
Dresden
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Ok ok, it's one of those "it was funny the first time" kind of things. But to be fired for AGREEING that it was funny? Those 2 were not the ones who originally said it. ..
Its a bit harsh but when you work for a company that has a zero tolerance policy towards harassment and you publicly state that you think harassment is funny and ok that could be a problem to your employer. Many people have been fired for publicly agreeing with or sharing racist material so its nothing new.
In this internet age when everyone is shooting off their mouth behind keyboard anonymity I think its good if people are made to realize that in the real world what you say publicly does matter and does define your character and can impact your life.
Dresden
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I understand you are not making the statement per se, but mere fact that your career can be put in jeopardy because you find something funny, (especially under the influence), is alarming.
Generally speaking, unless you are Senior Management level or above, no one really bothers telling you to watch your public profile. In this case, I wonder if Mr. Simoes was made explicitly aware of the repercussions of his actions - and I don't mean "sign this paper and also these 200 pages of your contract".
If T.Hydro had a shred of dignity, they should have stood up and made him apologize as well as reprimand him. But firing him was far more harsh.
Pffffft.
/rant
This is nothing new. Lots of people have had their careers in jeopardy for what they find funny if it is deemed offensive by your employer. Being drunk isn't an excuse to not be responsible for your actions.
Not reading your employment contract is no excuse. You are signing a binding legal document. Social media has changed the way employees can negatively effect a company. The moment an employees negative actions get linked back to the company you become the public face of that company. The company must act for their best interests of their brand. Many companies I have worked for had policies about identifying yourself as a representative of that company by listing it on your social media profiles or in emails or statements you then become a public representative of the company and are subject to the rules they have set out for public representatives. Right or wrong that is the way it is now so people need to conduct themselves accordingly. An example on Facebook I was discussing a charity event sponsored by a company I worked for. A facebook friend went off about that company and posted about me working there etc. I then to respect my employment contract did not respond or escalate because I would from that point on be speaking as a representative of that company.
Is it so hard for people just to be decent to each other? Respect, Courtesy, Empathy seem to be traits void in society these days.
Dresden
Well-known member
"Not reading your employment contract is no excuse"
The <moral> question is how much of a stranglehold can a person's employment contract have on them. What if I pull an Ecclestone and have a nazi-themed orgy that happens to leak to the public and disgust a lot of people? Should I be let go from my job? If you recall the story, Bernie refused to step down but was being called to do so.. then again he is at the level where he is allowed to call the shots.
The individual in question, Shawn Simoes, did not ask to be put on camera. What answer was the reporter expecting to get from the <drunk> bystanders? An apology for having a tough time trying to do her job? Give me a break.
The pussification of the world is in full force...
SweetOnion
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Its up to the ones being damaged by your actions. If your Nazi orgy loses the company customers then they have reason to fire you as your actions are harmful to the company. If your the boss of that company then its up to you if you want to fire yourself but you will have to live with the consequences of public reaction to your brand or products.
Shawn was under no obligation to talk. He could easily have said " I have nothing to say" or "I don't want to talk on Camera" or Just walk away. No one was forcing him to open his big mouth. What is that saying. It’s better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt.
Please explain how being held responsible for your words and actions makes it "Pussification"? Sounds pretty upstanding to take your lumps for your actions. Of course its just everyone elses fault that. That is the problem with society not pussification. No one takes responsibility for the things they do.
Most employment contracts aren't worth the paper they're written on! A lot of companies make the same mistake with employment contracts... and that mistake makes it useless.
Dresden
Well-known member
Give the corporation more control over their employees? Are you being facetious? Corporations do not own the people that work for them; if you feel they do that's your opinion (and I feel sorry for you). Last time I checked, working at Toronto hydro was not akin to working in show business where you have to don a persona on/off screen and everything you say matters 100% of the time.
What's next? If toronto hydro decrees you are not to enjoy the comedy of a controversial comic - are you okay with that too? How about because it's in their employment contract?
Pussification indeed.
The bottom line is, the guy should be publicly shamed for his comments (he was) but his career should not have been put in jeopardy. Especially when he was NOT the one to make the FHRITP comment in question, he merely (crudely) said he found it hilarious.
Anyway, it's clear we will not see eye to eye and I've said my piece
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