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The camera mounting is interesting. I understand why they put it out there but man, that must have an affect on flight dynamics. That is a lot of drag and weight well off centreline. It probably takes a quite a bit off the cruise speed too but you still aren't outrunning it. Probably cruises at ~250 km/h now (clean configuration cruises at 300 kph, on amphibs is 230 kph cruise so somewhere between those two points).
 
  • Rate of Climb: 920 fpm
  • Max Speed: 156 kts (290 kmh)
  • Normal Cruise: 147 kts (272 kmh)
  • Economy Cruise: 117 kts (216 kmh)
  • Cost per Hour: $ 220.95
    Specs for the Cessna 206
 
just-me said:
  • Rate of Climb: 920 fpm
  • Max Speed: 156 kts (290 kmh)
  • Normal Cruise: 147 kts (272 kmh)
  • Economy Cruise: 117 kts (216 kmh)
  • Cost per Hour: $ 220.95
    Specs for the Cessna 206
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That assumes clean. Throw a garbage can half way out on one wing and lots of things change.
 
No escaping the fact that an escape from an infraction will not be easy.
Has to be a cruiser parked along the route to ticket the perp, the clip does not state where.
 
Chris-CJ said:
No escaping the fact that an escape from an infraction will not be easy.
Has to be a cruiser parked along the route to ticket the perp, the clip does not state where.
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My guess is they will pick a territory for the plane to patrol each day and go heavy with the cruisers in that territory. You don't want the plane tied up waiting a long time for a car. On the plus side, if you know where the plane is, the rest of the opp patrolled territory will be lightly covered. Already, many days there are zero OPP on the 400 between Vaughan and Barrie. If something happens, it takes them a long time to respond.
 
Unless I'm mistaken the vast majority of the surveillance will be on roads where sightlines are good and where there are markings on the pavement to assist in the calculation of speed.

So the lunatics who lane split on major highways at 200 kph are at risk, but if you're on a backroad in the sticks somewhere you're probably OK. Not to say I ever exceed the speed limit, I'm just giving an example,,,,,,,,,,,,

Do I have this right, or do they have a method to track distance / time / speed on backroads?
 
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ReSTored said:
Unless I'm mistaken the vast majority of the surveillance will be on roads where sightlines are good and where there are markings on the pavement to assist in the calculation of speed.

So the lunics who lane split on major highways at 200 kph are at risk, but if you're on a backroad in the sticks somewhere you're probably OK. Not to say I ever exceed the speed limit, I'm just giving an example,,,,,,,,,,,,

Do I have this right, or do they have a method to track distance / time / speed on backroads?
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The camera can show speeds. It seems to be tracking the speed the crosshair is moving so probably harder to get a win in court. Timed sections are easy to win in court. I expect the plane will spend a few days a year on nice roads. You don't need to time between paint, you just need a known distance so a couple easily identifiable driveways will do the trick.
 
ReSTored said:
Unless I'm mistaken the vast majority of the surveillance will be on roads where sightlines are good and where there are markings on the pavement to assist in the calculation of speed.

So the lunics who lane split on major highways at 200 kph are at risk, but if you're on a backroad in the sticks somewhere you're probably OK. Not to say I ever exceed the speed limit, I'm just giving an example,,,,,,,,,,,,

Do I have this right, or do they have a method to track distance / time / speed on backroads?
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I would imagine for anything to stick, you would need calibrated markings.
Then it is just time between two known points.
 
What they USED to do was send out a plane when they were doing a speed reduction campaign on a stretch of road, with a dozen cars spread up and down the road. the plane spots speeders and "sics" a car on them. The police WANT the car to catch the speeder, so the plane sics the car on the speeder, then the car would pace the speeder... that way they only need one cop in court. IF the plane clocks the speeder, and a car pulls he speeder over, both cops have to be in court.

I don't know what level of surveillance equipment is on these new planes, but there's packages available that can spot a "car", mark it in memory and the software will track the car, marking it's route with GPS points, current speed, in focus... while the plane loiters at 10,000 ft. They can even lose the target, then re target it. All the big US news services use it. Cali has the best car chase coverage, sometimes two or three a day, makes for exciting TV.
During high security "things" the police will fly drones, sometimes LOTS of drones, just loitering, sucking up photos, and with all the drone stuff happening in Ukraine, I can see a fleet of drones loitering over our major thorough fares in the near future ... just WATCHING... WAITING....

Sounds ominous no?
 
GreyGhost said:
The camera mounting is interesting. I understand why they put it out there but man, that must have an affect on flight dynamics. That is a lot of drag and weight well off centreline. It probably takes a quite a bit off the cruise speed too but you still aren't outrunning it. Probably cruises at ~250 km/h now (clean configuration cruises at 300 kph, on amphibs is 230 kph cruise so somewhere between those two points).
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I didn't watch the video until you mentioned the mounting. I'm neither a pilot nor an aerospace engineer, but doesn't hanging something that big on just one wing adversely affect the stall/spin characteristics of the plane?
 
Taken from the twitter comments:

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www.soloy.com

Camera Mount

Utilizing the C-206’s high wing location, Soloy’s STC wing mounted hardpoint is readily adaptable for the forward looking infrared (FLIR) cameras that record in a variety of lights and thermal...
www.soloy.com www.soloy.com

"An installed camera creates virtually no effect on aircraft handling or safety."
 
raginduck said:
www.soloy.com

Camera Mount

Utilizing the C-206’s high wing location, Soloy’s STC wing mounted hardpoint is readily adaptable for the forward looking infrared (FLIR) cameras that record in a variety of lights and thermal...
www.soloy.com www.soloy.com

"An installed camera creates virtually no effect on aircraft handling or safety."
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That got me even more curious. After digging around I found this: https://www.soloy.com/uploads/9/0/6/9/90692509/s2060a-wing-mount-camera-pohs.r2.uncontrolled.pdf

-Max airspeed limited to 140kts (small loss from 151-161kts)
-Flaps limited to 20 degrees (limited from 30-40)
-Requires aileron trim tabs to be installed
-(Edit) Oh and autopilot not permitted during IFR. I suppose that's not a terrible "problem" as your camera's not going to be much good during IFR anyway

Emergency procedures are not affected.
 
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raginduck said:
www.soloy.com

Camera Mount

Utilizing the C-206’s high wing location, Soloy’s STC wing mounted hardpoint is readily adaptable for the forward looking infrared (FLIR) cameras that record in a variety of lights and thermal...
www.soloy.com www.soloy.com

"An installed camera creates virtually no effect on aircraft handling or safety."
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Easy peasy.
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