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LOL at your definition of "facts" and "most".

yeh, I am going to listen to a poster like you giving out great cough cough advice.

Facts? Why don't you go look up Peter Schiff was right video's?
If you think the mainstreami facts, then you deservce to lose everything in the next stage of this collapse.

Just do get mad when I am right.

 

[OpenGambit]

yeh, I am going to listen to a poster like you giving out great cough cough advice.

Facts? Why don't you go look up Peter Schiff was right video's?
If you think the mainstreami facts, then you deservce to lose everything in the next stage of this collapse.

Just do get mad when I am right.

I am not giving out any advice. I am just mocking you.

I think its amusing that you might have taken a macroeconomics class at some point, watched some youtube videos, listened to Ron Paul once or twice, and think you are enlightened.
All of the points you have ever made point to some video or another. Try demonstrating some independent knowledge when you pretend you know what you are talking about.

P.S. Your spelling is horrible.

 

[DownUnder]

Why do people have a million excuses for not working?

All play and no work, was a American mindset for decades and look what happened.

It's quickly becoming a Canadian mindset.

The big question is, What job are you offering and how much does it pay?

 

[mmmnaked]

yeh, I am going to listen to a poster like you giving out great cough cough advice.

Facts? Why don't you go look up Peter Schiff was right video's?
If you think the mainstreami facts, then you deservce to lose everything in the next stage of this collapse.

Just do get mad when I am right.

You've yet to post anything to back up your ridiculous claim that "it pays more NOT to work for most people". It's a profoundly stupid and completely false statement.

 

[oomis]

I am not giving out any advice. I am just mocking you.

I think its amusing that you might have taken a macroeconomics class at some point, watched some youtube videos, listened to Ron Paul once or twice, and think you are enlightened.
All of the points you have ever made point to some video or another. Try demonstrating some independent knowledge when you pretend you know what you are talking about.

P.S. Your spelling is horrible.

This right here belongs in a sig line.

 

[caboose56]

I am not giving out any advice. I am just mocking you.

I think its amusing that you might have taken a macroeconomics class at some point, watched some youtube videos, listened to Ron Paul once or twice, and think you are enlightened.
All of the points you have ever made point to some video or another. Try demonstrating some independent knowledge when you pretend you know what you are talking about.

P.S. Your spelling is horrible.

Look at his post history. At least he's consistent.

I'm sure EI and/or welfare are better for some people than working. But I like to call those people useless. But to state that that's the case for most people is several rainbow shades of ridiculous.

Sort of on topic:
People think they deserve far more than they really do for their work. When I was a teenager the only job I didn't want was food services, I didn't want a McJob. I just didn't want to deal with food all day. I ended up working at at full serve Sunoco for a few years in highschool. I was making $7.50/hr and I thought I was rich. I bought my EX500 and my 5.0L Mustang working there. Paid for gas and insurance and my own spending money. I had it made.

Try offering most teenagers under $10/hr to stand outside in the sun/rain/snow/sleet and pump gas and see how many blank stares or many of them laugh in your face.

****in kids these days...

 

[Myztyk]

Look at his post history. At least he's consistent.

I'm sure EI and/or welfare are better for some people than working. But I like to call those people useless. But to state that that's the case for most people is several rainbow shades of ridiculous.

Sort of on topic:
People think they deserve far more than they really do for their work. When I was a teenager the only job I didn't want was food services, I didn't want a McJob. I just didn't want to deal with food all day. I ended up working at at full serve Sunoco for a few years in highschool. I was making $7.50/hr and I thought I was rich. I bought my EX500 and my 5.0L Mustang working there. Paid for gas and insurance and my own spending money. I had it made.

Try offering most teenagers under $10/hr to stand outside in the sun/rain/snow/sleet and pump gas and see how many blank stares or many of them laugh in your face.

****in kids these days...

QFT. My dad always said, you're either doing competitive sports or you're working. You're not going to sit on your *** and do nothing all day.

I've laid sod in sun so hot, I puked from heat stroke. I've worked in an industrial furnance where you got told "Don't wear any clothing you actually like" and had to wear a breathing mask your entire shift. And it wasn't no plum *** union summer job. When I was in University, I had a full time job, an 80% course load and was president of my program.

The salary expectations of kids coming out of University is ridiculous. They all want the $75k+ a year job and expect to be promoted at least 1 in the first two years they are working for you.

But that being said, it's not all of them. They also have a very different perspective on life. They've watched their parents bury themselves senseless with work and don't want that for themselves. Which is why more than 50% of kids graduating from University want to work for the government.

And I don't know who said Americans don't work. Maybe those slack *** union jobbers don't, but any American white collar worker works an assload of hours. They travel a lot and have probably uprooted their family more than once because many of the major company's offices aren't conveniently located down the street from each other like they are in Toronto.

 

[raginduck]

Look at his post history. At least he's consistent.

I'm sure EI and/or welfare are better for some people than working. But I like to call those people useless. But to state that that's the case for most people is several rainbow shades of ridiculous.

Sort of on topic:
People think they deserve far more than they really do for their work. When I was a teenager the only job I didn't want was food services, I didn't want a McJob. I just didn't want to deal with food all day. I ended up working at at full serve Sunoco for a few years in highschool. I was making $7.50/hr and I thought I was rich. I bought my EX500 and my 5.0L Mustang working there. Paid for gas and insurance and my own spending money. I had it made.

Try offering most teenagers under $10/hr to stand outside in the sun/rain/snow/sleet and pump gas and see how many blank stares or many of them laugh in your face.

****in kids these days...

$10 an hour today is a lot less than the $7.50 you were making then!

 

[CruisnGrrl]

The salary expectations of kids coming out of University is ridiculous. They all want the $75k+ a year job and expect to be promoted at least 1 in the first two years they are working for you.

they should join the armed forces then. the pay may not be as good as 75k (though it's a lot better than it used to be) there are regular promotions.

 

[caboose56]

$10 an hour today is a lot less than the $7.50 you were making then!

I'm not that old.

 

[raginduck]

I'm not that old.

If I remeber correctly, your my age or younger... mid thirties.
Remember how much that 5.0 cost brand new then... and look at what the "same" car would cost now...
How much was a brand new dirtbike then... and now...

 

[invictus43]

I'm not that old.

In 1988, when I was in University, I worked summer co-op jobs and also as a mechanic. I was making..probably..$10-$12/hr in those days, and that was pretty average coin for a summer job. In those days, $70k/yr was big pimpin.. I received applications for a position a couple of months ago and people 2 years out of university with some fairly lame degrees put down $75k-$100k as their salary expectations.. Like, seriously? Their only work experience was as the popcorn guy at the Cineplex/Odeon..

 

[dricked]

14 years ago my new dirtbike was around $6000 I think so it hasn't changed too much.

Myztyk, I know unions have a bad rap, my field is highly unionized and there's alot of guys that bust their *** all day but then you have the "union worker" as well. I get paid and have benifits because of the union but I have a job because of my company.

 

[caboose56]

If I remeber correctly, your my age or younger... mid thirties.
Remember how much that 5.0 cost brand new then... and look at what the "same" car would cost now...
How much was a brand new dirtbike then... and now...

I'm 28.

My EX500 was $3400 from Cycle City in 1999. I borrowed the money from my folks and paid it back in two years. My 1983 5.0L 'Stang was $1500 in 2001 and took another $1000 to get it on the road. Insurance and gas are higher now but it doesn't line up with the 50% increase in minimum wage.

 

[RockerGuy]

In 1988, when I was in University, .

Thats before most ppl were born on the "Introductory" part of this forum

 

[invictus43]

Thats before most ppl were born on the "Introductory" part of this forum

Are ya trying to hurt me?? You bastard!!! :lmao:

Strangely, none of the new riders wants to listen about how I've managed to survive 25 years of riding without breaking anything.

 

[nfq]

In 1988, when I was in University, I worked summer co-op jobs and also as a mechanic. I was making..probably..$10-$12/hr in those days, and that was pretty average coin for a summer job. In those days, $70k/yr was big pimpin.. I received applications for a position a couple of months ago and people 2 years out of university with some fairly lame degrees put down $75k-$100k as their salary expectations.. Like, seriously? Their only work experience was as the popcorn guy at the Cineplex/Odeon..

One of my younger brothers friends is finishing a political science degree and thinks that he'll "settle" for a job that pays $85K when he's done.

I just smile and nod. I can't wait until reality smacks him in the face. Kid won't listen to reason.

 

[OpenGambit]

Hmm.. I actually have a poli sci degree in undergrad.
No I did not have any 85 k prospects, but I did turn down a job at Customs before I went back to school. But I guess 62k back then might be closer to 85 now?

 

[nfq]

Hmm.. I actually have a poli sci degree in undergrad.
No I did not have any 85 k prospects, but I did turn down a job at Customs before I went back to school. But I guess 62k back then might be closer to 85 now?

Not so much the degree as the attitude of thinking that as soon as he's done Uni, he'll jump into 6-figure territory, but doesn't wanna work too hard right away so he'll settle for a mid 80's paycheck.

 

[OpenGambit]

I understand =D. I was kind of the reverse. I was shocked to hell when I realized that I was gonna make more than 50k starting.
Hell when I was younger I dealt cards, and I thought the 20 dollars an hr I took home made me rich...
But then I guess I found some inner greed and decided to go back to school for more.

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