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Enough of COVID...what are you doing to the house?

mimico_polak said:
PEEL region allows 1-2 trees per year to be taken down without a permit. But 3 seems a tad much without a sign off by an arborist.

maybe @shanekingsley can chime in?

@Relax let me know if you’d like me to get the contractors name. He’s done a few trees in the area and did my other neighbours massive tree last year in no time. Great service, zero damage, happy neighbours all around.
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Sure, please forward. I did get a quote from the guy that did my neighbor's but seemed on the high side (especially after my neightbor told me she paid $500 per tree). I'm tempted to do the one in my front yard myself - lots of clearance to cut off the branches, just not sure how comfortable I am with taking down the trunk.
 
GreyGhost said:
Well if they are dying that may get you out of the fee but having Greyghost sign off that they are dying probably isn't going to help your cause. Hiring a proper tree company (preferably with an arborist) should get the paperwork through the city with minimal hassle.
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I updated my post to reflect the diagnosis when I had an arborist come by years ago. In any case, Peel does thing differently, and I do intend to replace the tree with a simliar sized one, but one that's native to my area and more Christmas tree shaped to serve double duty during the holidays.
 
Relax said:
Sure, please forward. I did get a quote from the guy that did my neighbor's but seemed on the high side (especially after my neightbor told me she paid $500 per tree). I'm tempted to do the one in my front yard myself - lots of clearance to cut off the branches, just not sure how comfortable I am with taking down the trunk.
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Are you sure it's your tree and not in the right-of-way which would make it the city's problem?
 
Relax said:
Sure, please forward. I did get a quote from the guy that did my neighbor's but seemed on the high side (especially after my neightbor told me she paid $500 per tree). I'm tempted to do the one in my front yard myself - lots of clearance to cut off the branches, just not sure how comfortable I am with taking down the trunk.
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Will get it for you tomorrow. You have the issue of the postal code tax as Port Credit.
 
Relax said:
I updated my post to reflect the diagnosis when I had an arborist come by years ago. In any case, Peel does thing differently, and I do intend to replace the tree with a simliar sized one, but one that's native to my area and more Christmas tree shaped to serve double duty during the holidays.
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Awesome and there are so many nice trees to replace those pines with. Here’s a good list of locally suited alternatives - I personally would plant a Dawn Redwood if I had the space.

The soil might not be the greatest underneath them though - might need some amending.

OMAFRA has a good article on the disease and hopefully the city will allow for their replacement
 
shanekingsley said:
I personally would plant a Dawn Redwood if I had the space.
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That's a cool tree (especially when it gets old). I have a spot on the lawn that I want to put a tree in but haven't decided what yet. I am leaning towards cherry of some sort but haven't decided yet. Almost full sun and ~25' to an oak and 20' to the house. Is there a reference that helps guide people towards good choices or is it something I should pay for an opinion on so I don't waste money killing trees?
 
Relax said:
I can get behind planting another in its place, but not the same species. In my case, I have two Austrian pines that have diplodia tip blight (diagnosed by an arborist) and half of each tree is dead, with a pile of dead needles constantly collecting underneath and killing the grass. It's because they're not native to the area, and don't do well here. Planting another would result in the same dead tree eventually.
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I'm relating to the situation the neighbour faced. IMO the replacement should be a species native to the area.
 
shanekingsley said:
Awesome and there are so many nice trees to replace those pines with. Here’s a good list of locally suited alternatives - I personally would plant a Dawn Redwood if I had the space.

The soil might not be the greatest underneath them though - might need some amending.

OMAFRA has a good article on the disease and hopefully the city will allow for their replacement
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I think we have a lot of those Dawn Redwoods on my street, either that or they look similar. It's going to take me some time to wrap my head around that article. Are you an arborist?
 
GreyGhost said:
That's a cool tree (especially when it gets old). I have a spot on the lawn that I want to put a tree in but haven't decided what yet. I am leaning towards cherry of some sort but haven't decided yet. Almost full sun and ~25' to an oak and 20' to the house. Is there a reference that helps guide people towards good choices or is it something I should pay for an opinion on so I don't waste money killing trees?
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Same here. Large front yard, house approx 120' from the road with very sandy soil and surrounded by mostly pine and a handful of Birch trees. Would like to plant some type of tree in the front yard but undecided on type or what would grow well there.
 
nobbie48 said:
In Toronto if the tree is over a certain diameter it can only be cut down if it has been certified as diseased. The fee is IIRC $350. When the tree is cut down you must plant a new one of the exact species and it has to live at least two years. Five figure fines if you cut without a permit.
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The bylaw is 12 inches wide (diameter) and I think 4 feet up from the ground. Well it is in metric so it is 30cm and 1.2m.

Under that cut away. As for permission, it is easier if the tree is not native to the area.
 
GreyGhost said:
That's a cool tree (especially when it gets old). I have a spot on the lawn that I want to put a tree in but haven't decided what yet. I am leaning towards cherry of some sort but haven't decided yet. Almost full sun and ~25' to an oak and 20' to the house. Is there a reference that helps guide people towards good choices or is it something I should pay for an opinion on so I don't waste money killing trees?
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There are many resources people can use to help them guide their decision making for selecting a good tree. You could see if your local municipality offers some sort of tree planting incentives or even literature on choosing good species for your area. That said, residents of Toronto have access to some good resources and incentives available for homeowners, offering native trees that would likely work where you are too. Check out the following for some tips:
www.toronto.ca

Tree Planting

Submit a tree planting request for the City-owned road allowance in front of a home or business. Request a City Tree Planting Trees improve air quality, minimize noise and dust, reduce storm water runoff, and enhance the urban landscape. Trees also benefit individual property owners by providing...
www.toronto.ca www.toronto.ca

I was also a member of the Ontario Master Gardeners for about 10 years and they have a wealth of resources and information available for free to the general public. The second link below is a local non-profit called LEAF which offers Toronto homeowners with a tree planting program to assist with the process. The 3rd link is a well known and often shared resource identifying common invasives that are planted and suitable alternatives.

Picking a Native Tree – Toronto Master Gardeners

www.torontomastergardeners.ca www.torontomastergardeners.ca

Planting Program Brochures | LEAF | Local Enhancement & Appreciation of Forests

www.yourleaf.org www.yourleaf.org
 
Relax said:
I think we have a lot of those Dawn Redwoods on my street, either that or they look similar. It's going to take me some time to wrap my head around that article. Are you an arborist?
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If you read some of the links I provided above, then they may also help. Otherwise just ask your questions. I'm not an arborist, but but studied, taught and worked as a horticulturist for many years.

A few basic things when choosing the right tree would include:
  • Ensuring the location meets the soil, water and light requirements of the chosen tree
  • Ensuring the mature size of the chosen tree will be appropriate for the location (interfering with houses, overhead wires, other trees etc)
  • Ensuring the tree species chosen is not an invasive tree (ideally native)
  • Clarifying what it is you are looking for out of a tree (size, form, colour, flowers, fruit, winter use and so on)l
I only said Dawn Redwoods because I like the bark and they are one of the very few trees with needles that produce cones, but also drop their needles in the winter. I like trees that meet multiple purposes and one of them must be how it looks in the winter.
 
Our previous owner got rid of every tree in our rear yard. I want a tree...wife isn’t on board yet. I’m hoping to convince her as there’s one great spot where it would work, but of course it would shade her flowers.
 
shanekingsley said:
If you read some of the links I provided above, then they may also help. Otherwise just ask your questions. I'm not an arborist, but but studied, taught and worked as a horticulturist for many years.

A few basic things when choosing the right tree would include:
  • Ensuring the location meets the soil, water and light requirements of the chosen tree
  • Ensuring the mature size of the chosen tree will be appropriate for the location (interfering with houses, overhead wires, other trees etc)
  • Ensuring the tree species chosen is not an invasive tree (ideally native)
  • Clarifying what it is you are looking for out of a tree (size, form, colour, flowers, fruit, winter use and so on)l
I only said Dawn Redwoods because I like the bark and they are one of the very few trees with needles that produce cones, but also drop their needles in the winter. I like trees that meet multiple purposes and one of them must be how it looks in the winter.
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Thanks SK. Municipality doesn't appear to have a program to help with single trees. If you want to reforest a farm on install a windbreak, they can help.

On the lawn I have an oak and a maple (~35' each) and an open space that needs another tree. I like your dawn redwood idea when it's old, but it looks like it would take longer than my lifetime to get to the cool twisted pyramid base. Neighbours across the road have a cluster of paperbark birch which meet a lot of your criteria but I don't want the same thing.

I looked through your references and leafyplace.com to try to come up with something. I'll update if I come up with anything. So many tree possibilities so once I find some options I like conceptually, need to check on appropriateness and availability. Ideally I'd like to start with a small tree instead of a sapling to speed things along. Due to a big ditch, no reasonable truck access so the tree needs to be planted by hand.
 
I also like large stone / armour stone grouped as natural seating near nice big trees. It can offset smaller tree sizes in the beginning and evolve into amazing reflective areas when you are long gone.

The trees below are some of my other preferred larger trees in no particular order. You might want to look into them and see if any meet what you are looking for:
Kentucky Coffee Tree
Pagoda Dogwood
Ginkgo
Katsura
River Birch
Purple Beech (or American Beech)
Magnolia
Esteem White Pine
Eastern Hemlock
Tulip Tree
Black Walnut
London Plane Tree
Ohio Buckeye
Butternut

edit: If you have limited access, then borrowing/renting a tree cart is a simple way to move larger trees around.
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Kentucky coffee tree is one of my favorites once it gets to be about 4-5ft in trunk diameter. Let me know and i'll be right over with a small crane, flatbed and a chainsaw.

sorry , still a lumber guy.... you see a tree, I see board measure....
 
crankcall said:
Kentucky coffee tree is one of my favorites once it gets to be about 4-5ft in trunk diameter. Let me know and i'll be right over with a small crane, flatbed and a chainsaw.

sorry , still a lumber guy.... you see a tree, I see board measure....
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It looks interesting but I am seeing all the leaves and lawnmower destroying seed pods and trying to look for a different option. It looks like I'm also further north than the rest in ontario so I'm not sure if it would be happy.
 
shanekingsley said:
I also like large stone / armour stone grouped as natural seating near nice big trees. It can offset smaller tree sizes in the beginning and evolve into amazing reflective areas when you are long gone.

The trees below are some of my other preferred larger trees in no particular order. You might want to look into them and see if any meet what you are looking for:
Kentucky Coffee Tree
Pagoda Dogwood
Ginkgo
Katsura
River Birch
Purple Beech (or American Beech)
Magnolia
Esteem White Pine
Eastern Hemlock
Tulip Tree
Black Walnut
London Plane Tree
Ohio Buckeye
Butternut

edit: If you have limited access, then borrowing/renting a tree cart is a simple way to move larger trees around.
tree-ball-cart.jpg
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I like the tree cart. I can probably push a trailer there to get a few hundred pound tree in place. I dont think I could get the clamshell close to plant a multi-thousand pound tree.
 
GreyGhost said:
I like the tree cart. I can probably push a trailer there to get a few hundred pound tree in place. I dont think I could get the clamshell close to plant a multi-thousand pound tree.
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Maybe reach out to the local conservation authority - maybe they will get a tree for free or offer some other funding. They will also guide you on the specific trees that are well adapted to your microclimate.

Planting Trees & Shrubs - Lake Simcoe Region Conservation Authority

www.lsrca.on.ca www.lsrca.on.ca

And personally, nothing beats heading down the local nursery or garden centre and talking to the lifers there.
 
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