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Enough of COVID...what are you doing to the house?

Thanks for that detail @crankcall always good to see it from the inside as to how it works.

I'm just glad I finished all of my major projects requiring wood when 2x4 were around $3.55/each.
 
Between lockdowns and lumber prices I may have to start curb cruising early AM on garbage day for old furniture to recycle. Actually the antique market is so depressed that you can buy solid wood tables for less than the retail cost of the wood.
 
Had a garage guy come take a look today. Quote is forthcoming.
 
Thanks. I figured you'd know but it wasn't appropriate to try to push you to disclose things that close to you.

Like most things you don't want to be the last man in. Although you lost a Bentley on that fateful day, hopefully it was one of five purchased in the good times.

Its a maybe once in your career market run, traders in my office are making a couple hundred K a month right now. While it lasts , the retailers are just taking this weeks delivery and marking it up 18%, so they are not getting rich.

I love having lumber traders buying cottages, new trucks , bass boats and cool cars, massive debt is a great motivator!
 
I'm not sure we will print T-4's with 7 digits , but for a few it will be high 6's this year.

What does one need to know to be successful in this business ? buy low, sell high, collect the money, lather and repeat. Oh, and have about 10 million to support the inventory required,

people doing things to houses in the pandemic has been quite the boon for some businesses (mine), and when all the restaurants that blew up need to be rebuilt as something else in that leased space? yep , more wood!!

One of this mornings conversations , our other sales group that handles TREX decking cant keep it in stock, Trex and clear cedar are the same price, PT decking and Trex are closing the gap, people are buying the premium product. Money is still cheap, if you have a 1mil house , why would you put a cheesy PT deck up? Its crazy. Trex decking going on allocation to dealers , who'd have thought?
 
I haven't had to apply for a building permit for decades and was thinking that my under deck waterproofing might better be done in conjunction with a new deck. What I might save in the waterproofing might pay for part of an upgraded deck.

Does anyone know what's happening with permits for decks in Etobicoke? Time delay, costs etc.
 
I haven't had to apply for a building permit for decades and was thinking that my under deck waterproofing might better be done in conjunction with a new deck. What I might save in the waterproofing might pay for part of an upgraded deck.

Does anyone know what's happening with permits for decks in Etobicoke? Time delay, costs etc.
Independent of covid, building permits for decks are disgusting in terms of costs, hassle and delays incurred. If you are low enough I would probably not attach it to the house and legally build it without a permit.
 
Independent of covid, building permits for decks are disgusting in terms of costs, hassle and delays incurred. If you are low enough I would probably not attach it to the house and legally build it without a permit.

Finished deck to grade is under three feet. I didn't know if being detached from the house would make it exempt from a permit. Permits are a PITA and like a money vacuum with multiple attachments. Permit, deposits, blah, blah

Present deck has a ledger board attached to the house. A few more posts wouldn't be an issue. I kicked around hell-piles but don't know if it's worth it for a few holes. The ground is a bit of dirt over hard yellow clay. Tough digging by hand.
 
Finished deck to grade is under three feet. I didn't know if being detached from the house would make it exempt from a permit. Permits are a PITA and like a money vacuum with multiple attachments. Permit, deposits, blah, blah

Present deck has a ledger board attached to the house. A few more posts wouldn't be an issue. I kicked around hell-piles but don't know if it's worth it for a few holes. The ground is a bit of dirt over hard yellow clay. Tough digging by hand.
Check the municipality. Most have a shed and deck flyer to answer the common questions. At our old house, IIRC no permit required for low, detached from house, no roof, no electrical.
 
Finished deck to grade is under three feet. I didn't know if being detached from the house would make it exempt from a permit. Permits are a PITA and like a money vacuum with multiple attachments. Permit, deposits, blah, blah

Present deck has a ledger board attached to the house. A few more posts wouldn't be an issue. I kicked around hell-piles but don't know if it's worth it for a few holes. The ground is a bit of dirt over hard yellow clay. Tough digging by hand.
I have had great experience with screw/heli piles. Cheaper than post holes with concrete. They are completely DIY (muscle and a long 2X4 is all it takes to drive them in). Last I looked at code they cannot be used if the deck is attached to the house (floating deck only).

Only two issues:
-They can be hard to get in straight, helps to have two people.
-They are harder to screw in close to other structures or obstacles (you can't just walk the 2X4 in a circle).
 
I have had great experience with screw/heli piles. Cheaper than post holes with concrete. They are completely DIY (muscle and a long 2X4 is all it takes to drive them in). Last I looked at code they cannot be used if the deck is attached to the house (floating deck only).

Only two issues:
-They can be hard to get in straight, helps to have two people.
-They are harder to screw in close to other structures or obstacles (you can't just walk the 2X4 in a circle).
If you're using them, eyes wide open. They say xxxx lbs per post but when you are done sifting through data, some of them are only good for a few hundred pounds a post. On my last deck, I used eight concrete piers, I would have needed more than 40 screw piles according to their math. Ignore the marketing number, it is garbage and roughly a factor of 10 above safe bearing capacity in most situations.

If you use conventional screw piles installed by machine, the relationship between torque required to drive and bearing capacity is quite well defined so you can get away with many fewer piles.

Since he is digging against his house anyway, I would probably drop a concrete footer at the bottom and use gravel to backfill/compact around a ground-contact rated post. Screw pile in disturbed dirt will be useless (and as you said, annoying to drive close to the house).
 
That's annoying. I was more referring to a relatively high cost, requirement for footing inspection (meaning you have to get people to come back if you are paying for them and having open holes that dont like rain), need to have a complete set of drawings prior to construction start (that they theoretically hold you to) etc. Mostly ridiculous bureaucracy. Maybe with good intent, but they could make some modifications to make it easier and cheaper for all. For instance, submit pictures of a tape measure in each footing hole, picture of the bottom of the hole, etc. Cleans up delay, expense of a return trip and you dont need to pay an inspector. The last deck I built started construction with a design concept but the far side changed as construction progressed due to obstacles and figuring out a better way to solve a grading issue. Being held to preliminary drawings would have made the end project substantially worse. I understand the need for a formal and rigorous approach when life safety is involved but most backyard decks are not in that position. There was a crosship roof on my deck that I didnt have designed until well in the project, it ended up have 10 facets and two different pitches to look the way I wanted. If i had submitted complete drawings, i would have been on the hook for thousands in permit fees for a ~200sq ft deck and they would have had so many questions (low voltage lighting with junction boxes and switches, circuits for lights and power, sail on angled 16' angled posts with structural guardrails for support etc). I was already at $50/sq ft for material.

Tell me the requirements, let me submit pictures, inspect the final deck to make sure it is safe, move on.
 
So glad my deck came with the house....whew...
My last house came with a deck too. The *&%*%&*^% had attached the ledger board to the house with five concrete nails into the door sill. Approximately 5' unsupported cantilever on each side of the door sill. Wtf. I knew it sucked when I moved in and built brick piers to catch it if it fell (I wanted it to drop 1" to make it obvious that it had failed). Eventually that happened (FIL stepped on the deck and kablammo). Other end of the deck was supported on three 6" concrete posts 2.5' into the ground. I doubt that was ever code, they just didn't feel like digging further. Wankers.
 
I have had great experience with screw/heli piles. Cheaper than post holes with concrete. They are completely DIY (muscle and a long 2X4 is all it takes to drive them in). Last I looked at code they cannot be used if the deck is attached to the house (floating deck only).

Only two issues:
-They can be hard to get in straight, helps to have two people.
-They are harder to screw in close to other structures or obstacles (you can't just walk the 2X4 in a circle).
I used a couple last year, super easy to install. But they both sunk almost 4 inches over the winter. Mine have top collars so I can recover, I won’t use them again.
 
My last house came with a deck too. The *&%*%&*^% had attached the ledger board to the house with five concrete nails into the door sill. Approximately 5' unsupported cantilever on each side of the door sill. Wtf. I knew it sucked when I moved in and built brick piers to catch it if it fell (I wanted it to drop 1" to make it obvious that it had failed). Eventually that happened (FIL stepped on the deck and kablammo). Other end of the deck was supported on three 6" concrete posts 2.5' into the ground. I doubt that was ever code, they just didn't feel like digging further. Wankers.
I have cursed the previous owner many many times over the last 2 years....damn you Kevin....damn you indeed. For all your shortcuts.

I’ve lost 5 years off my life at least because of that SOB!
 
I have cursed the previous owner many many times over the last 2 years....damn you Kevin....damn you indeed. For all your shortcuts.

I’ve lost 5 years off my life at least because of that SOB!
I could write a 3 season comedy series for Netflix if I outlined all the shortcuts and diy dangers I got when I bought this house.

season 1
How to use black poly for gas lines gas to pool heater
Fuse panel shortcuts - making your pennies work for you
How to wire a basement with lamp cord
Insulating with newspaper and cardboard
Ducting a basement with vinyl dryer vents
Recycling Lawnmowers and engine blocks as fill
200kwh heated driveway
Building subfloors with MDF
 

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