Enough of COVID...what are you doing to the house?

[Mad Mike]

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got a roof quote in this am , its 11K . For shingles. I was thinking 7-8 ish . waiting for a couple more quotes .

Architecturally interesting roofs are only interseting for the architect , its just expensive for the rest of us

Ouch! I'm removing an ugly and troublesome (leaky) shed dormer and then replacing the shingles on that roof plane -- 3 squares. Just ordered the material - shingles, ice protector, underlay, nails, delivery, and tax came to $495. About $1.65/sq'.

The disposal fees for the old shingles should be another $50.

 

[sburns]

got a roof quote in this am , its 11K . For shingles. I was thinking 7-8 ish . waiting for a couple more quotes .

Architecturally interesting roofs are only interseting for the architect , its just expensive for the rest of us

Just saw post from a roofer who is part of a CAD HD group. He mentioned all the material costs have jump up by 10 - 50% already, and will increase again in May. Basically stated most roofing jobs will now cost $2000 more then they did last year.

 

[Scuba Steve]

got a roof quote in this am , its 11K . For shingles. I was thinking 7-8 ish . waiting for a couple more quotes .

Architecturally interesting roofs are only interseting for the architect , its just expensive for the rest of us

I paid just over 10 2 years ago for a 2500 sq ft bungalow.

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[nobbie48]

Get lots of quotes and book them in very early or you’ll be waiting forever. Our quote for a side split house full evestrough replacement and just two downspouts (upper roof feeds into lower roof evestroughs) was about $2k, we previously had a quote for $4k. The difference in prices is nuts. In Kingston we got a recommendation from a friend and this guy is a small contractor and this is all he does. Did an excellent job super fast.

The upper feeding into the lower troughs is the right way. A lot of them let the upper troughs drain onto the lower shingles and the steady stream erodes the shingle on the lower roof.

It does tend to overload the lower troughs. Since we've been told to disconnect from the storm sewers I've added a new downspout from the upper roof to the back yard. I'm planning another one if i can find a less ugly way of running it.

 

[nobbie48]

Ouch! I'm removing an ugly and troublesome (leaky) shed dormer and then replacing the shingles on that roof plane -- 3 squares. Just ordered the material - shingles, ice protector, underlay, nails, delivery, and tax came to $495. About $1.65/sq'.

The disposal fees for the old shingles should be another $50.
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I did my side split myself in 1985 doing an overlay, something they don't like but it lasted 20 years. There are seven roof planes and I did one a day over a week or two.

In 2005 I had the roof stripped and done by pros for around $4,000 IIRC. Today the shingles and miscellaneous, 20 square, would likely be $3000 plus labour.

Shopping for price is simpler than shopping for quality.

 

[GreyGhost]

Shopping for price is simpler than shopping for quality.

Even if you hire a reputable company sometimes you get a loser crew. A nearby house had the roof done by a highly regarded company and they used pagoda style vents (sample pic below). Ok so far. It's a hip roof and they put one on the back plane and one on the side plane. Yuck but I've seen worse. Side plane one is not close to level. Looks terrible from the street. If it was my job and we missed it while up there, I would have put a ladder up again to fix it.

 

[nobbie48]

Even if you hire a reputable company sometimes you get a loser crew. A nearby house had the roof done by a highly regarded company and they used pagoda style vents (sample pic below). Ok so far. It's a hip roof and they put one on the back plane and one on the side plane. Yuck but I've seen worse. Side plane one is not close to level. Looks terrible from the street. If it was my job and we missed it while up there, I would have put a ladder up again to fix it.

A lot of roofing companies hire ex-cons because the ex-cons can't get other work and training doesn't take long. A good supervisor keeps them in line.

 

[Mad Mike]

Even if you hire a reputable company sometimes you get a loser crew. A nearby house had the roof done by a highly regarded company and they used pagoda style vents (sample pic below). Ok so far. It's a hip roof and they put one on the back plane and one on the side plane. Yuck but I've seen worse. Side plane one is not close to level. Looks terrible from the street. If it was my job and we missed it while up there, I would have put a ladder up again to fix it.

I see those all over the north in Ontario. According to the fellow who is helping me with my roof, they use them in high snow load areas because they sit high. Personally, I think they are fugly -- makes me think the homeowners are keeping chickens in their attics.

Gable venting is my favorite as there are fewer cuts thru the roof. I won't ever use Cobra style ridge vents -- wind-driven rain made it thru at my house, tor that off and put in a whirlie.

 

[GreyGhost]

I see those all over the north in Ontario. According to the fellow who is helping me with my roof, they use them in high snow load areas because they sit high. Personally, I think they are fugly -- makes me think the homeowners are keeping chickens in their attics.

Gable venting is my favorite as there are fewer cuts thru the roof. I won't ever use Cobra style ridge vents -- wind-driven rain made it thru at my house, tor that off and put in a whirlie.

On a hip roof, or with cathedral ceilings gable vents don't work and you may not have enough ridge to get enough ridge vent area. That leaves you with pagodas or conventional low profile square roof vents. One contractor wanted to put 22 square roof vents on my house. I cut him for bad design. The roof would have looked like it had chicken pox (and 22 places to leak). I went with three pagodas for main ventilation. Math said maybe two would work but it is a lot easier to seal one off than it is to add one if I don't like the airflow. Added ridge vents in some areas that wouldn't flow well to pagodas (gables with cathedral, garage attic that is mostly separate air space, etc.).

EDIT:
Did you have trouble with the mesh or rigid cobra vent? I stripped off the mesh (hadn't leaked) and added rigid (hasn't leaked in 1.5 years).

 

[crankcall]

We once hired a decent roofing company, that sub contracted the job to a crew of chain smoking Asian dudes . Throwing the shingles across the roof deck dislodged two pot lights and when they left the new roof was littered with butts and the troughs were full of nails . The original guy I contracted with had them back the next morning and it looked like tbe vacuumed up there . Happy in the end , but you need to be watchful , which is sad really .


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[nobbie48]

Being Good Friday I met my religious obligations by using a hammer drill to wake my neighbours so they could go to church ad pray for my evil soul.

By 10:00 AM I had installed two new outside LED accent lights at the back door. Then out came the pots and pans with three batches of crumpets and a loaf of focaccia now on the table.

 

[48Connor]

Just finished up my front door closet. No before pic but you can imagine a single wire shelf that every builder installs inside of a dark tiny room.

Added a light, painted the walls and ceiling, installed this solid wood closet organizer I found on Wayfair, and there you go. I was dead set on painting the closet organizer white (saved $300 buying this one over the white one), but in person the color wasn't as bad as it looked online so I just installed it as is.

All in I think I'm about $750 into this closet. Zero ROI on this but I wanted to try out this closet system before I dumped like $3k on installing it in the master walk-in closet, which is where I think there will be some ROI.

 

[POWERMAN]

Just finished up my front door closet

That is beautiful.

 

[mimico_polak]

Just finished up my front door closet. No before pic but you can imagine a single wire shelf that every builder installs inside of a dark tiny room.

Added a light, painted the walls and ceiling, installed this solid wood closet organizer I found on Wayfair, and there you go. I was dead set on painting the closet organizer white (saved $300 buying this one over the white one), but in person the color wasn't as bad as it looked online so I just installed it as is.

All in I think I'm about $750 into this closet. Zero ROI on this but I wanted to try out this closet system before I dumped like $3k on installing it in the master walk-in closet, which is where I think there will be some ROI.

That’s some serious good work @48Connor !

 

[mimico_polak]

While my projects weren’t as great as @48Connor id like to give honourable mention to that mofo Kevin again….1.5” screws to hold the fence pieces….






And got a free trampoline from my sister so the kids had some good times.



And installed a EV holster…

 

[48Connor]

While my projects weren’t as great as @48Connor id like to give honourable mention to that mofo Kevin again….1.5” screws to hold the fence pieces….

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And got a free trampoline from my sister so the kids had some good times.

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And installed a EV holster…

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About once a year that happens to my parents fence. It was all built with 2.5" nails but the posts lean and twist and they pop out. The fence is on its way out, but none of the 3 neighbors that share the fence want to do anything about it and/or have the money to do anything about it. I think next year my parents are jut going to bite the bullet and have a company come in and replace the whole fence on their dime. Only upside is when you pay for it you can do whatever you want.


I saw an post of someone who had an in ground trampoline, like it was flush with the grass. No idea how that works for drainage and stuff living underneath, but that is pretty high up on the want list.

 

[mimico_polak]

About once a year that happens to my parents fence. It was all built with 2.5" nails but the posts lean and twist and they pop out. The fence is on its way out, but none of the 3 neighbors that share the fence want to do anything about it and/or have the money to do anything about it. I think next year my parents are jut going to bite the bullet and have a company come in and replace the whole fence on their dime. Only upside is when you pay for it you can do whatever you want.


I saw an post of someone who had an in ground trampoline, like it was flush with the grass. No idea how that works for drainage and stuff living underneath, but that is pretty high up on the want list.

I already know one neighbour isn’t interested in paying as his words:

‘It’s awesome everyone around me is putting up a fence and I get a private yard for free’

So I’m just assuming it’s on my dime and that’s that.

I was planning on digging a hole to put the pool in partially and that would practically make the trampoline fit in to grass level…could be fun. I think trampoline into the pool would be best (but rather dangerous).

 

[48Connor]

I already know one neighbour isn’t interested in paying as his words:

‘It’s awesome everyone around me is putting up a fence and I get a private yard for free’

So I’m just assuming it’s on my dime and that’s that.

I was planning on digging a hole to put the pool in partially and that would practically make the trampoline fit in to grass level…could be fun. I think trampoline into the pool would be best (but rather dangerous).

Yeah last time my parents talked about it, my mom got upset that she would have to pay for it all. Like the bylaw says they do technically have to pay for half of a 48" chain link fence, but for the $400 you'll get from them, its not worth the effort or to completely ruin the relationship with the people 12ft away.

The one thing I will say about the townhouse I'm in now, is that the builders built one hell of a fence. 6x6" posts, 4ft in the ground, concrete all the way to the surface. That fence will outlive me, and I'm 26 lol

 

[mimico_polak]

Yeah last time my parents talked about it, my mom got upset that she would have to pay for it all. Like the bylaw says they do technically have to pay for half of a 48" chain link fence, but for the $400 you'll get from them, its not worth the effort or to completely ruin the relationship with the people 12ft away.

The one thing I will say about the townhouse I'm in now, is that the builders built one hell of a fence. 6x6" posts, 4ft in the ground, concrete all the way to the surface. That fence will outlive me, and I'm 26 lol

I counted 31 4x4s for my fence. I’m tempted to put it metal posts instead as I like the look.

But May hold off and wait for @crankcall’s signal that prices are down before I do anything. I’d prefer cedar than PT but $$$$

I will cut the branches on the neighbours bushes as those things are pushing up against the fence and screwing things up.

 

[nobbie48]

Yeah last time my parents talked about it, my mom got upset that she would have to pay for it all. Like the bylaw says they do technically have to pay for half of a 48" chain link fence, but for the $400 you'll get from them, its not worth the effort or to completely ruin the relationship with the people 12ft away.

The one thing I will say about the townhouse I'm in now, is that the builders built one hell of a fence. 6x6" posts, 4ft in the ground, concrete all the way to the surface. That fence will outlive me, and I'm 26 lol

It would P me off if I had to pay half of an unnecesary fence or one that I didn't like. Fortunately my three neighbours are good. A tall hedge at the back and we're in agreemant that nothing more is needed. One side is chainlink that neither of us care to change and the third is a nice iron one that neighbour put in and I went halves. A bit pricey but within reason and it looks good.

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