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Enough of COVID...what are you doing to the house?

sburns said:
IF you are doing any electrical wiring and ripping up stuff, run some Ethernet cable as well.
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Why? If I'm running the wireless Access Points. What's the point of Ethernet cable beyond that?
 
mimico_polak said:
If I had the foresight to just run conduits from the garage to the attic at the very least, that would really help out with the wiring, and be a much less destructive method.

The way my current walls are there is a weird foam insulation, so there's zero way to run cables without literally pulling out the entire wall and re-framing it, insulating it, and re-drywalling it. I only want to have a clean shot to each room. Inside the rooms is an easy path.

But if I'm going to re-wire this place, there will be some wireless access points placed around the house. We have a few slow spots in the wifi and the mesh system from Rogers really helps out, but wireless access points may make it much easier.
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I installed a few Unifi access points. They work ok. Not worth the hassle/expense imo. I would probably use something different next time.
 
Question....since many of you seem well-versed in electrical.

My Mom's house was built around 1958 or so, and has copper wiring and a fuse panel with glass circular screw-in fuses. The service was upgraded to 100 amp back around 1980.
If the house gets put up for sale, is there any chance we will need to replace the fuse panels with circuit breaker panels? To add a bit of color, keep in mind its in a remote rural area where things are more laid back, so some of the "standards" we deal with in the GTA may not be as much of a problem there, meaning things are a bit more loosey-goosey. Thanks.
 
Freddy Fudpucker said:
Question....since many of you seem well-versed in electrical.

My Mom's house was built around 1958 or so, and has copper wiring and a fuse panel with glass circular screw-in fuses. The service was upgraded to 100 amp back around 1980.
If the house gets put up for sale, is there any chance we will need to replace the fuse panels with circuit breaker panels? To add a bit of color, keep in mind its in a remote rural area where things are more laid back, so some of the "standards" we deal with in the GTA may not be as much of a problem there, meaning things are a bit more loosey-goosey. Thanks.
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I don't think it's an issue nowadays. We bought our townhouse with fuse panels and just replaced it for $1000 or so to a breaker panel.

Most people have no clue wtf they're looking at. And a lot of people buy the property to upgrade it anyway.

I don't think it's worth upgrading if you're planning on selling. You may entice some buyers, but it's a relatively easy fix.
 
mimico_polak said:
@backmarkerducati I believe it's you that showed us a pic of a beautifully laid out electric panel branching out into the house.

I remember that being very well organized.

I'm super glad that I ran that 60A line to the laundry room before buttoning up the garage. But in hindsight, I couldn't taken some more time, and ran conduits just to each room before buttoning it up, so that I won't have to rip out drywall again.
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Yes that was my panel/work, looks even cleaner/better now. I will post a before and after pic (old fuse panelS vs new breaker panel) once I do my final after COVID numbers drop.

I get asked why didn't you just hire someone, you have the money.... well the big reason is money ( I am cheap) but the second reason is no self respecting LEC would ever do it to the quality level I did, if they did they would be out of business as no one would pay for it. Not just the install but overall design, EE load calculations, future proofing, OCD panel layout, etc.
 
mimico_polak said:
Why? If I'm running the wireless Access Points. What's the point of Ethernet cable beyond that?
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Because ethernet is better. Cant be easily jammed to take cameras offline. Almost never drops. Dont have as many issues with accessing devices connected to other access points. Rarely need to manually open ports (some Wap filter traffic to prevent badness). Wont get knocked offline by the microwave etc. I use it where I can.
 
GreyGhost said:
I'm not saying he has to do it himself with no help, just if any questions arise, "I did it by myself". Assuming that he really was the primary and only had occasional help, that should pass the sniff test.

When I was younger I pulled wires through conduit by myself. I'm older now. I use my wife to help. I know the bundle has made it when I hear the shriek as the horse cock covered with lube ends up in her hands.
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We were doing a training session and a female showed up. Damned if anyone could remember the right name for the thing. Kellems Grip, Phew. Mind you she was no shrinking violet.
 
Any body have a copy of “Captain Ron” on DVD ? Offering cash or equivalent trade of goods ( booze)


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mimico_polak said:
So...electrical. Considering the poopshow that Kevin has made of the insulation, and possible electrical mess within the house, I'd like to pick the brain of the collective here.

I'm planning on starting insulation process for the entire house room by room. Send the wife and kids up to the cottage for a week, and then work to rip out the old drywall, frame, insulate, and re-drywall each room.

As part of that, I'd like to re-wire the house as well so that it's properly done once and for all. I am considering running conduits from the panel (in the garage) along the wall of the entire length of the side wall as each bedroom is on this wall.

Something like this...

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There's block wall, and a walkway b/w the Garage and the +1 room.

Does it make sense to run conduit for each room separately? Or just wire from the panel to each individual bedroom?

@SunnY S or any other electricians, if you can comment I'd highly appreciate it.
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You are re-living my past! The original owner of my house wasn't a regular Kevin, he was exhausted to the "Order of Kevins", we call him Sir Kevin.

I went room by room, gutting, rewiring and drywalling.

insulation. Sprayfoam would have been my first choice however doing that in stages was cost prohibitive. I used r15 mineral wool batts then r4 3/4" foilbacked Styrofoam on outside walls. It added outside wall vapor barrier, and added 6mil vapor barrier to the ceilings. Window frames and base of foamboards were sealed with sprayfoam to eliminate any drafts. I reused the old r8 Batts as sound insulation on interior walls.

Electrical. I had aluminum throughout, so it was removed and replaced with copper. My place is 55 wide, with the main panel at the se corner of the house, bedrooms at the nw corner - far from the main panel. To keep things simple, I ran a single 60amp line to pony panel in a br closet, then rewired the bedrooms from there. No conduit required as there was open access with drywall removed. I made sure each wall switch had a live feed and ran 12/3 to the main lights so I could control ceiling fan and lights. I changed all electrical boxes to plastic, they are wider and deeper. Also ran network and catv cables back to the closet eith the pony panel.

I did not reframe anything, but did replace/repair a few badly twisted studs.
 
mimico_polak said:
Love my 11.5hp ARIENS at the cottage…makes light work of any snow.

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I have Airens snowblower and lawnmower. They are built in the USA and use quality parts. The lawnmower is Kholer powered, has started first pull for 10 years, the new blower has an IC engine.
 
backmarkerducati said:
"Wife" helped him, that is the story. She does not need to be there during inspection....

Mine helped here or there, but If mine actually did for all of it we would be divorced by now! True story, I drilled up from the basement "into the wall" she said, I see the bit. I then fished up the wire and she kept yelling down how do we get it to the switch.... I came up and I had drilled through the baseboard and fished the wire through that hole.... she did not see the problem... luckily that was the only time that happened.


A tip, use a small bit, drill a small hole in the floor beside the molding or if doing the attic the ceiling beside the wall where you are going. Shove a length of white or bare wire through the small hole and you will see exactly where you are going, measure a few inches away and drill into the wall cavity. The finder hole can be easily filled with wood filler, dowel, plaster.... Just make sure you have your directions straight....

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For a moment I thoght these where picture of my house, everything is almost the same, floor, old paint, even that drill hole in the floor for phone or security wire, and under the floor too. Amazing how that can be.
 
Freddy Fudpucker said:
Question....since many of you seem well-versed in electrical.

My Mom's house was built around 1958 or so, and has copper wiring and a fuse panel with glass circular screw-in fuses. The service was upgraded to 100 amp back around 1980.
If the house gets put up for sale, is there any chance we will need to replace the fuse panels with circuit breaker panels? To add a bit of color, keep in mind its in a remote rural area where things are more laid back, so some of the "standards" we deal with in the GTA may not be as much of a problem there, meaning things are a bit more loosey-goosey. Thanks.
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Well considering in this market people are paying for broken down shacks, you should have no problem.
But I don't think it is a problem. My cousin, an electrian, like's Fuses over Breakers. Breakers are basically more convienent. But if your circuits are all setup well it shouldn't be a problem. The wiring which is a problem is Knob & Tube, you shouldn't have any of that, it was before 50's and earlier. I have green sheath wires in my house some without ground wires, but it all works.
 
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