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Emissions and the car industry

The chart is based on output at ideal conditions.
11kph is not ideal.
 
The chart is based on output at ideal conditions.
11kph is not ideal.

That chart is what was actually produced for the year 2019.


In 2019, Ontario generated 153.0 terawatt-hours (TWh) of electricity (Figure 2),

This is figure 2:

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The point is wind power fluctuates output capacity depending on the weather patterns.
Electricity does not travel well. Having a lot of capacity far from demand is problematic.
With global warming wind patterns will change.
We will need backup options such as nuclear and hydrocarbons for a long time to come.
With the will power and advanced technology even coal could become near zero emission.
The problem of nuclear is the Homer Simpsons of the world,
Hydro has its own dark side in changing fish habitat.
Lets keep our options open while we still can.
 
The point is wind power fluctuates output capacity depending on the weather patterns.
Electricity does not travel well. Having a lot of capacity far from demand is problematic.
With global warming wind patterns will change.
We will need backup options such as nuclear and hydrocarbons for a long time to come.
With the will power and advanced technology even coal could become near zero emission.
The problem of nuclear is the Homer Simpsons of the world,
Hydro has its own dark side in changing fish habitat.
Lets keep our options open while we still can.
Hydro (water) generation is a mess. Plants were designed for baseload with constant output. They are being used as dispatchable power and varying output greatly throughout each day. 40+ year lifetime before major refit in baseload operation reduced to <<10 years as they are running them.
 
The future is going to involve EVs with configurable and possibly bidirectional charging to address the variability of power generation and distribution.

The beginnings of this are already there. My EV is currently plugged in, but not charging. I have it set to "Get to 75% charged by 6:45 AM, do whatever you need to do in order to achieve that". It will start charging sometime overnight in order to achieve this. Right now, this is established by a simple dumb timer and calculation system inside the vehicle. It is not much of a stretch to have some communication between the vehicle, its charging station (already exists), and the power utility (that's the part that we don't have ... but there's a "smart thermostat" on my wall that is capable of this, the tech exists) so that this objective can be achieved by some combination of charging now instead of later, or later instead of now, or the whole night but at a slower rate, or even get it to 100% charged ASAP and then use some of that stored energy via bidirectional charging (which my car is not capable of, but some are, TODAY) to fill in an anticipated demand spike, to suit whatever optimises what's available from the utility.
 
Showing your age
Most manuals have the reverse on the upper left now lol


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Reverse at bottom right is the traditional Honda location for it. Reverse at top left next to 1st is the traditional VW location for it. Reverse at top left with 1st at bottom left (same gate as reverse) is the traditional 3 on the tree layout but there's been some 5-speeds built like that, too.

 
Thing is...im never gonna buy a car that doesnt serve some kind of utility...and those kinds of vehicles dont usually come with manual transmissions...
 
Thing is...im never gonna buy a car that doesnt serve some kind of utility...and those kinds of vehicles dont usually come with manual transmissions...

Utility like in passenger cars?

Honda Civic and Hyundai Elantra come in manual transmission. So does a Kia Forte, Mazda 3, Nissan Versa.

Or pick up trucks?

Toyota Tacoma and the Jeep Gladiator are stick shift.

Or maybe an actual sport Utility vehicle?

Like a Subaru Crosstrek or Ford Bronco? Those also come with a manual transmission.

All 2023 models.
 
Reverse at bottom right is the traditional Honda location for it.

When I was going through my Boy Racer phase, I owned a 1986 Honda Prelude.

The 5-speed had R in the lower right and every time I put it into Reverse, it sounded like I was breaking chicken bones wrapped in a handkerchief.

Grossest sound in the world.
 
When I was going through my Boy Racer phase, I owned a 1986 Honda Prelude.

The 5-speed had R in the lower right and every time I put it into Reverse, it sounded like I was breaking chicken bones wrapped in a handkerchief.

Grossest sound in the world.
Owned same. Great fun car. Red of coarse.
 
Just to get us back on to the original topic of

Emissions and the car industry​

Emissions are a cumulative effect.
Less people equals less cars.
Less cars equal less emissions.
Less cars equal happier motorcyclists.
 
Honda Civic and Hyundai Elantra come in manual transmission. So does a Kia Forte, Mazda 3, Nissan Versa.
I am a big fan of cheap compact cars with manual transmissions, but they are on their deathbed these days.

From what I can tell from the manufacturer's sites, the only new cheap compact car offered with a manual transmission this year is the Kia Rio. The manufacturer's sites kind of suck (especially Kia's) so I might have missed one, but all of the above listed base models now only come with a CVT/IVT. The higher trims of the Elantra/Forte5 come with a "7-speed Dual Clutch Auto Transmission".

edit: I missed the Elantra N, which offers a 6 speed manual. For some reason, someone at Hyundai thought it would be a good idea to have different trim levels called "N Line" and "N Series"??
 
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I understand you can get a Toyota EV with a munual transmission.
It does not actually do anything but gives you the feel of shifting gears.
Combine that with BMWs use of air channeled thru an EV to create a gas engine sound and you will be happy.
This information was found on the internet so it must be true!
 
I am a big fan of cheap compact cars with manual transmissions, but they are on their deathbed these days.

From what I can tell from the manufacturer's sites, the only new cheap compact car offered with a manual transmission this year is the Kia Rio. The manufacturer's sites kind of suck (especially Kia's) so I might have missed one, but all of the above listed base models now only come with a CVT/IVT. The higher trims of the Elantra/Forte5 come with a "7-speed Dual Clutch Auto Transmission".
Civic can have manual (but based on your research not in a base car). It is no longer the default/cheaper option. It is sold on the mid-performance variants. Top performance often locks you into some form of performance auto like dual clutch (although civic type r is manual).
 
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The point is wind power fluctuates output capacity depending on the weather patterns.
Electricity does not travel well. Having a lot of capacity far from demand is problematic.
With global warming wind patterns will change.
We will need backup options such as nuclear and hydrocarbons for a long time to come.
With the will power and advanced technology even coal could become near zero emission.
The problem of nuclear is the Homer Simpsons of the world,
Hydro has its own dark side in changing fish habitat.
Lets keep our options open while we still can.
You can see it in near realtime Gridwatch

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I am a big fan of cheap compact cars with manual transmissions, but they are on their deathbed these days.

From what I can tell from the manufacturer's sites, the only new cheap compact car offered with a manual transmission this year is the Kia Rio. The manufacturer's sites kind of suck (especially Kia's) so I might have missed one, but all of the above listed base models now only come with a CVT/IVT. The higher trims of the Elantra/Forte5 come with a "7-speed Dual Clutch Auto Transmission".

edit: I missed the Elantra N, which offers a 6 speed manual. For some reason, someone at Hyundai thought it would be a good idea to have different trim levels called "N Line" and "N Series"??
You can still get the following cheep cars in a manual:
 
Average new vehicle price in Ontario is up to 66K. Those are all less than half of the average price. Definitely seems to fit the criteria for "cheap" even if they aren't that cheap compared to incomes.
 
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Average new vehicle price in Ontario is up to 66K. Those are all less than half of the average price. Definitely seems to fit the criteria for "cheap" even if they aren't that cheap compared to incomes.
hen I bought by Cruze it was just before the pandemic, $21,000 for a LT 6MT, the comparative Jetta was the same price. You could get a base Sentra, Forte, Elantra for <$19K, and a Civic or Corolla for about $20K. (those were the cheap cars I compared -- I didn't look at the Subaroos, Mitshibusi, or Fiats.

Most of those cars have gone up by more than 20%, the Cruze is discontinued here.
 

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