Drive thru ATM Etiquette

Another situation - Timmies Drive through with double speaker phone lane , one guy arrives first, I arrive to the second speaker a few seconds after, I am done ordering just a few seconds before he does, do i floor it and get in front, or take my time and let the guy go in first since after all, he arrived first but took a few more seconds ordering?

White People's problems... oh and I also hate people

Doesn't happen at our Timmies, they only take one order at a time now.

Before though, they used to reach out and slap you silly, once you got to the window.

Not sure about your last comment, but it sounds racist, so I'll tiptoe softly away.
 
I can't say about who was more wrong.

But a comment about social manners and the lack of them lately.

If it was your neighbour. You see him everyday. Have beer with him in the summer. Cut his lawn for him when it needs it. He cuts your lawn for you when you are busy. You have known him for years. And you will see him tomorrow, and the day after that too.

Would you have done the same?

I don't think so.

Why? Cause you would know it was rude. You did it cause you didn't know him and knew you would never see him again.

I was always taught that your actions are unacceptable if you would treat the person differently if you knew them.
 
^^^ +1

All these uncaring types of attitudes seem to be enforced in cities in the Western World only, from my experience, because the relationship between two beings in here is not bounded by connections and common ground, but rules and even law or something. The dynamics and forces within this society is F'ed, IMO.

Hence, the behavioural retardism towards one another.

And my favorite one is - every now and then, someone goes to the country side for a ride and gets something nice done by someone without the expectation of return, and comes back telling "woohoo they love motorcyclists up there".. well, who knew LOL
 
I say OP is the problem with society. What makes one's person time more valuable than others. If someone was there first, would it have been impossible to stop behind him and wait for him to go to the first available ATM?

This mentality that one is in a constant battle with the next guy is what makes everyone so bitter and dislike the world around them.
 
Go to the ATM last night, there are two machines and two distinct lanes. Guy in front is parked dead centre straddling the lane divider line waiting for the first car to finish. Pleanty of room for me to go around in the right lane, so I zip around in a defined lane.

He loses his mind starts honking and yelling becasue I chose a lane and it worked out while he was left straddling his line of indecision when the car ahead pulled away.

Was I wrong? even if i was I can tell you i had a little chuckle.

If nobody is behind you, sure, wait and pick the line that is the best flow, but I dont think you can park cars behind you waiting in this situation.

Each machine has its' own dedicated lane? Straddling divider line is much celebrated out of the box thinking. Zipping around burst party balloon. Loosing mind, honking, yelling are hallmarks of aggrieved parties the world over. You were not wrong. Little chuckle? Well played.:cool:
 
Each machine has its' own dedicated lane? Straddling divider line is much celebrated out of the box thinking. Zipping around burst party balloon. Loosing mind, honking, yelling are hallmarks of aggrieved parties the world over. You were not wrong. Little chuckle? Well played.:cool:

Fortunate that my vehicle is long enough to block three lanes.
Nobody, gets to piss me off but my kids. :P
 
I can't say about who was more wrong. But a comment about social manners and the lack of them lately.If it was your neighbour. You see him everyday. Have beer with him in the summer. Cut his lawn for him when it needs it. He cuts your lawn for you when you are busy. You have known him for years. And you will see him tomorrow, and the day after that too.

Would you have done the same? I don't think so.Why? Cause you would know it was rude. You did it cause you didn't know him and knew you would never see him again.

I was always taught that your actions are unacceptable if you would treat the person differently if you knew them.

Well put!
 
"I suppose this is the most basic kind of everyday ethical problem: if there is an established social order (where the rules are universally understood), is it ever O.K. for someone to break the unspoken agreement everyone else has made, particularly in situations in which very little is at stake?

This specific question, like most of this variety, has a technical answer and an actual answer."

-The Ethicist @ The New York Times

Read the "technical" answer and the "actual" answer here http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/26/magazine/impatience-takes-a-number.html?_r=0

Obviously... your mileage will vary.

Interesting.

I had to stop to think about the #ing scenario for a moment.

Would I have seen something wrong with it or would I use it to my advantage.

And through my thought process, it all came back to society expectations. For example, if you knew all 20 people that had a # ahead of you, most would not take the gift of a # that queue jumped.

But without knowling the people ahead of you in line, most would take the gift # and jump the gueue.

No?
 
"I suppose this is the most basic kind of everyday ethical problem: if there is an established social order (where the rules are universally understood), is it ever O.K. for someone to break the unspoken agreement everyone else has made, particularly in situations in which very little is at stake?

This specific question, like most of this variety, has a technical answer and an actual answer."

-The Ethicist @ The New York Times

Read the "technical" answer and the "actual" answer here http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/26/magazine/impatience-takes-a-number.html?_r=0

Obviously... your mileage will vary.

I don't get the first example at all. There should be nothing unethical about taking the ticket. What if you get a free ticket to the football game after they've all sold out and your seat is way better than most others?
 
I don't get the first example at all. There should be nothing unethical about taking the ticket. What if you get a free ticket to the football game after they've all sold out and your seat is way better than most others?

That's a different scenario.
 
That's a different scenario.

You mean different as in not exactly the same?

So what's the ethical issue with taking the ticket in the line up? I don't get it.
 
You mean different as in not exactly the same?

So what's the ethical issue with taking the ticket in the line up? I don't get it.

Read my post from above. Imagine everyone else is your friend, your aunt in a wheelchair, your boss, whoever......just people you know....you would still jump the line?

If you wouldn't....that is the ethical dilemma.

If you still would....well then.....
 
Read my post from above. Imagine everyone else is your friend, your aunt in a wheelchair, your boss, whoever......just people you know....you would still jump the line?

"Yo guys! Pete, Doug, Ed, listen up! Jack here is takin' off and wants to gimme his ticket. Ok wit you guys?"
"'Fo sho, dawg! Why you even gots ta ask?"
"Cool, cool."
 
My time is more valuable than everyone else's. That's why.

Everyone hates that douchehammer that stays in a lane that ends till the very end then forces his way in............. yet in other circumstances the same selfish behavior should be acceptable? You people are ruhtard.
 
Go to the ATM last night, there are two machines and two distinct lanes. Guy in front is parked dead centre straddling the lane divider line waiting for the first car to finish. Pleanty of room for me to go around in the right lane, so I zip around in a defined lane.

He loses his mind starts honking and yelling becasue I chose a lane and it worked out while he was left straddling his line of indecision when the car ahead pulled away.

I need a clarification.

You went around the his right side in a defined lane. That's fair imho. Did you stay in the right lane? Was the first available ATM in the right lane? If you had swung over to the left lane that would be dooshy imho.
 
I need a clarification.

You went around the his right side in a defined lane. That's fair imho. Did you stay in the right lane? Was the first available ATM in the right lane? If you had swung over to the left lane that would be dooshy imho.

2 defined lanes, 2 atm's, one at the end of each individual lane. Guy sat in the middle waiting and staddling both lanes Went around on the right, in the lane (there was ample room) went to the atm on the right.
 
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2 defined lanes, 2 atm's, one at the end of each individual lane. Guy sat in the middle waiting and staddling both lanes Went around on the right, in the lane (there was anmple room) went to the atm on the right.

Perfect. The straddler is the goof.
 
You mean different as in not exactly the same?

So what's the ethical issue with taking the ticket in the line up? I don't get it.

It is not the same.

Tickets for a football game are sold (creating a contract between buyer and seller). Everyone with a ticket can watch the game at the same time. The game is a one-time event only. How would you get a free ticket? As a gift or a prize.

Tickets with numbers to organize people as they wait for service are governed by the social contract. Not everyone can get service at the same time. The service is not a one-time event, it is ongoing forever (or as long as the company is in business). Having a ticket with a lower number represents personal gain.
 
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