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Difficulty Making Turns on Bigger Bike

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TSquared said:
having gone from a 250 isn't the issue, its because of the clip on handle bars. If he had an SV650 or a FZ09 he wouldn't have his turning issue.
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Dude, you know that the SV650 has the S model as well, which is the same forks and geometry... only with clipons on the forks instead of a handlebar, right? Sure it makes it harder, and I get what you're saying... but that's not exactly the reason. It is all about body position I'm willing to bet.. and yes, the front wheel in that video is the focal point for me too... wow. Busa's were never meant to be able to do that, I don't think :) He looks like a Harley motorcycle cop.
 
If his rear is actually sliding out it has nothing to do with the bars. I can't see how the rear can just slide out unless he's on gravel or doing a burnout or something.
 
If your rear tire is brand spanking new, that could be contributing to your loss of traction. Brand new tires, generally speaking, benefit from some break-in time. I use 100 kms as my benchmark.

There are some other good tips in this thread as well, but I'd add that you should put some mileage on that rear tire before you can expect it to behave normally.

All that being said, I don't think it's exclusively the rear tire - sounds like there's opportunity to improve low-speed technique in general...
 
TSquared said:
I own both style bikes right now, and i find a huge difference on how they both turn. I have a GT250R and it turns the same way as my R6. My CBR 125 turns the same way as my FZ09. But my GT250R does not turn the same way as my CBR 125 or my FZ09.

250cc bike have both upright and super sport riding positions, so it depends on the bike. To compare a Ninja 250 to a GT250R, those two bikes ride completely different. GT250R rides like a super sport, and the ninja 250 rides like a sport touring.

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of course the guy on the FZ09 could be knee dragging too. but you should get the idea.

I do agree that you should know the basic to learn how to adjust, but i have many friends who bough a SS and found it wasn't for them and bough the upright version of the bike. Like friends who went from the CBR 600RR to a CBR 600 F4i just because of the riding position.
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I understand the point you are trying to make, but it is invalid. The difference in the picture is purely body position. You can position yourself identically on both bikes, regardless of seating position or the bars.
 
Never mind the naysayers. #valuable tips.
 
Noticed similar on my CBR650F compared to my CBR250RA. Like others have mentioned, what caught me the most off guard was how limited the lock was compared to the 250. CBR650F's ergos are also half way between a CBR600RR and the CBR250R, and I know the tank can actually get in the way a bit at full lock (not much room for wrists).
 
Matthew.Tremayne said:
I understand the point you are trying to make, but it is invalid. The difference in the picture is purely body position. You can position yourself identically on both bikes, regardless of seating position or the bars.
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I own and ride both of those bike and no you can't. Look at my avatar, I could never do that on my FZ09
 
ZX600 said:
I own and ride both of those bike and no you can't. Look at my avatar, I could never do that on my FZ09
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I would love to see him doing that with a Hardley .... Regardless of the bars....eh?
 
Stupid lean angle is not domain of SS bikes, Sumos do it to0 but mostly for exhibition purposes.
 
The 250's are misleading. They're just normal upright bikes with race fairings. Makes the consumer think that they're just moving up in cc's when they get a 600 or 750. It's a whole different world. Sport bikes are meant to go fast really well. Slow? Not so much. They are tall and top heavy as opposed to a big cruiser. They feel tippy...which is my guess that the op is feeling and has to get used to before doing figure eights.
 
Isn't it just tucked vs not tucked in those pics (besides the fact that one is more upright than the other). I could sit upright or tucked on my 650R and I can sit upright or tucked on my RS125. 650R is an upright bike. RS125 is close to SS position. Of course if I tucked on the 650 my hands were up by my ears and if I sit upright on the 125 my arms are way stretched out but I can still do either on either bike...
 
unL33T said:
Isn't it just tucked vs not tucked in those pics (besides the fact that one is more upright than the other). I could sit upright or tucked on my 650R and I can sit upright or tucked on my RS125. 650R is an upright bike. RS125 is close to SS position. Of course if I tucked on the 650 my hands were up by my ears and if I sit upright on the 125 my arms are way stretched out but I can still do either on either bike...
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Now try to lean on them and see if you can do the same on both
 
cool said:
Now try to lean on them and see if you can do the same on both
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You can lean while tucked or not tucked. The 125 leans easier because it's smaller, lighter, and better handling. I don't think the bars have much to do with it. As someone else mentioned supermotos lean a lot and they are upright.
 
unL33T said:
You can lean while tucked or not tucked. The 125 leans easier because it's smaller, lighter, and better handling. I don't think the bars have much to do with it. As someone else mentioned supermotos lean a lot and they are upright.
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Im sorry my bad by lean i mean knee drag like Zzr600 said
 
cool said:
Im sorry my bad by lean i mean knee drag like Zzr600 said
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Yeah, if your bike is leaned you could drag knee. Super motos can drag knee but they tend to do that weird foot out and forward thing instead.
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