Deer Hunting

Gary said:
I hear ya...... but they've been at it for 30 yrs now - only fatalities have been 4 legged :(
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I notice you said "fatalities" rather than "injuries". :lmao:
 
I deer hunt with my compound bow. Shotgun just seems cheap to me for some reason.
My 14 year old sister took one on the opening weekend of archery.
I'll start this weekend I've been busy shooting ducks so far.
 
Lyndsay said:
Regarding bleeding out, it's the same as when you shoot them. They usually die from the trauma and ther's no point in trying. The only animals that it seems critical to bleed out (unless you're Kosher) are pigs for some reason. I came upon the roadkill a couple of minutes after it was hit, and it was already dead. The older gentleman that hit it did not want it, so I loaded it into the back of my van (luckily the seats had been taken out to make room for lumber) and took it to my buddy's place. He has a drive-in fridge and freezer for his fur operation (1000s of mink) and we gutted it and skinned it out in his grinding room. Hung it in the fridge for 10 days and cut it up on his meat bandsaw. Wrapped it in butcher paper (National Grocer has that) and put it in the freezer. You just need to remove the really bruised parts and toss them. You may find hidden damage, but that's fine, you can just grind that up later for burgers, or throw it in a stew.
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Did u get the blood out or just leave it?
I assume u could cut the head off and hang it upside down
 
rmemedic said:
I deer hunt with my compound bow. Shotgun just seems cheap to me for some reason.
My 14 year old sister took one on the opening weekend of archery.
I'll start this weekend I've been busy shooting ducks so far.
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I choke'em out with a rear naked choke then rip out their throat with my teeth..anything else just seems cheap to me.. :-)
 
invictus43 said:
I choke'em out with a rear naked choke then rip out their throat with my teeth..anything else just seems cheap to me.. :-)
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I've been in some towns where you could literally get a chokehold on the deer.. There were so many and not TOO afraid of humans (nobody was feeding them, but they liked to get into the gardens). Maintaining that chokehold, might have been an issue though :cool:
 
FiReSTaRT said:
Maintaining that chokehold, might have been an issue though :cool:
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Good thing I'm bad-***.. :-) My folks had a family of 3 living in the back yard last year..and they had 4 bears at the same time a few months ago..after they saw the arm-bar lock I put the big boy in the other bears skeedaddled..
 
invictus43 said:
Good thing I'm bad-***.. :-) My folks had a family of 3 living in the back yard last year..and they had 4 bears at the same time a few months ago..after they saw the arm-bar lock I put the big boy in the other bears skeedaddled..
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I hope the deers don't give u a kick in the nut sack :)
 
Rockerguy. I didn't intentionally bleed it out, but some blood does run out when it is hung. I hung it head-down for 10 days, and didn't monitor it's loss, but usually not a lot drips out. When shot, either with an arrow or a bullet, you usually have a lot of blood loss either onto the ground or into the stomach and lung cavities. I'll be thawing some of the roadkill out in December to do up a batch of Jerky, so I'll let you know if it is tougher than a "Normally" killed deer.

Medic, I use a bow as well, but usually my trusty old 30-30. Lever action with open sights, carries really nicley. The bow is a Browning Compound Wasp; one of the original compounds which I bought in 1975 or 1976. It is pretty weak due to it's age and I wouldn't trust it to deliver a killing shot past about 20 yards.
 
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I imagine it was intentional. Some people don't like to see dogs run deer. I know I don't if it's not hunting season. Dogs might tire the deer out so that it succumbs to the cold, or kill it outright, but not consume it. If there's coyotes around it's sort of moot, but before their numbers got so high, the carcass would just rot. I would be hard-pressed not to take action against a dog chasing deer during the off-season. I was once hunting with my bow and could hear some yappy dogs in the distance and they were getting closer. It was close to last light so I headed out across the field and a large buck busted out from the fencerow, chased by someone's long-haired god-knows-whats. By the time I got an arrow nocked, the buck had spotted me and bounced into the woods, and the dogs had stopped out of range and high-tailed it in the other direction. I'm glad I didn't have to make the decision as I may have been trying to explain to some kid why I shot their dog.
 
Interesting that you would shoot that dog beause it may run down and/or tire out a deer.... knowing the chances are pretty slim.
Would that even be legal?
 
I believe it's legal as it was on my own property and people are supposed to control their animals. Also, it's my duty to protect wildlife. There are some grey areas of course, and this is one.
 
You might want to check into that before you go off and shoot someone's dog, although I doubt you really care either way...
 
A guy near my parents has dogs killed all the time. He lets the dogs loose on one side of private property (without the owners permission) and then drives around to the other side and shoots whatever the dogs drive out. On more than one occasion, not all his dogs made it off the private property. It sucks for the dogs, they are just doing as they are told, but putting a slug in the a hole owner gets you in way more trouble.
 
I do care, and that's why I said I'm glad I didn't have to actually make the choice. During hunting (gun) season, I wouldn't shoot the dog as it's just doing it's job, as GreyGhost mentioned. Also, during a gun season, the dog is not doing anything illegal, except tresspassing, and it doesn't know any better. When it is not in season, the owner is breaking the law by letting it's dogs run free to chase deer. I live near many dog owners that use them to hunt, and they accept that they may be shot if they get free and run deer out of season. That's why they keep them well contained. The dogs chasing the deer I mentioned were just lapdogs however and they shouldn't have been out there.
 
I'm not a hunter myself but a good friend of mine and his 3 sons bagged 3 bucks last week on their own property near Lile. The biggest was the most beautiful 6 pointer. Mixed feelings seeing it hanging upside down in the barn dripping but they freeze and consume all the meat and some times save the hides.
Best of all they make lots of pepperettes and jerky and that's when I'm the first one in line.
 
dogs chase things, that's what they like to do. Mine has not been trained to run deer but it's broken off leash to try to chase down a herd of them (Do 3 or 4 deer count as a herd?)... he chases squirrels, chickens and anything else that comes near... he chases one of my cats (because she likes to be chased) and the other cat he leaves be...
 
Lyndsay said:
I do care, and that's why I said I'm glad I didn't have to actually make the choice. During hunting (gun) season, I wouldn't shoot the dog as it's just doing it's job, as GreyGhost mentioned. Also, during a gun season, the dog is not doing anything illegal, except tresspassing, and it doesn't know any better. When it is not in season, the owner is breaking the law by letting it's dogs run free to chase deer. I live near many dog owners that use them to hunt, and they accept that they may be shot if they get free and run deer out of season. That's why they keep them well contained. The dogs chasing the deer I mentioned were just lapdogs however and they shouldn't have been out there.
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You drew against , what you say were lapdogs, to protect a buck!? That's sounds a bit off to me.
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