Daily sports car?

even those CVTs that allow you to shift aren't the same...
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I'm sure she means the CVT's that have paddle shifters guys. Plenty of those around.
 
I'm sure she means the CVT's that have paddle shifters guys. Plenty of those around.

DCTs (Dual Clutch Transmission). CVT (Constant Velocity Transmission) are chain drive and work similar to a snowmobile. Never seen one with a shifting option other than D/L on the console.
 
DCTs (Dual Clutch Transmission). CVT (Constant Velocity Transmission) are chain drive and work similar to a snowmobile. Never seen one with a shifting option other than D/L on the console.
They exist. Obviously it is shifting between fake gears but it is possible as the drum positions are computer controlled not weight controlled like a snowmobile.
 
They exist. Obviously it is shifting between fake gears but it is possible as the drum positions are computer controlled not weight controlled like a snowmobile.
I read on one of the forums that Subaru determined in their customer focus groups that people preferred the CVT to sound more like a conventional transmission, so they tuned it to actually "shift through the gears" in later models.
 
They exist. Obviously it is shifting between fake gears but it is possible as the drum positions are computer controlled not weight controlled like a snowmobile.

Unfortunately, the few CVT equipped vehicles I have driven have all had fake shifts, even in normal automatic mode. Something about the CVT driving at a constant RPM turned off people used to conventional transmissions. Takes away one of the main advantages of a CVT, driving at a constant ideal RPM.
 
I read on one of the forums that Subaru determined in their customer focus groups that people preferred the CVT to sound more like a conventional transmission, so they tuned it to actually "shift through the gears" in later models.

this is very common, drive a current Honda Accord with CVT, you will swear you are driving a traditional automatic. The "shifting" feel is very convincing and shift points accurate.
 
Point is, a CVT doesn’t have any gears to shift other than reverse. It’s not even a transmission by definition.
 
finally made the jump to automatic in my x5 after decades of manual cars. i don't really miss it keeping city traffic in mind. i would completely agree it's more enjoyable..but going 20km/hr between stop-and-go traffic, getting in and out of first for 40 minutes is not 'fun'.

I just leave huge gaps in front of me for acceleration and deceleration zone/buffer. Boy do the beemers behind me get angry
 
I’ve got a 2018 Forester with CVT and optional paddle shifters for 6 “gears”. The CVT also has faux shift points instead of the snowmobile drone when accelerating along the on ramps etc.

I have never used the paddle to manual shift the vehicle.


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I’ve driven a few CVTs and not sure whether the Nissan or Subaru is worse. Both are garbage and our Rogues both started failing early and you could feel the issue coming.
Subaru is also pretty bad. Although I’ve not tried the one in the WRX, just the stock Impreza.

One of the reasons for trading in my WRX for the volt was the office changed offices from downtown (GO train accessible) to Scarborough. I’ve done the 401 corridor with the Si…I wasn’t going to do it again in a manual car.
 
Point is, a CVT doesn’t have any gears to shift other than reverse. It’s not even a transmission by definition.

wait, what?

Continuous Variable Transmission

 
no paddle shifters, whichever one allows you to "manually" shift...the Kona and the Crosstrek I took out two years ago both had it...I obviously got the terminology wrong...my bad...
 
wait, what?

Continuous Variable Transmission


It's a glorified mechanical torque converter. Even the link (from your beloved Car and Driver) says so.

"most CVT systems work through a pulley system. In short, this system consists of cones at each pulley connected via a chain belt."

"One pulley in the CVT is connected to the engine and the other directs power to the wheels. The width of these pulleys changes based on the needed power; as one gets larger, the other gets smaller. This allows a CVT to deliver strong and seamless acceleration"
 
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