Agree. I have a gsw and with not much work or money you can get them just under 4 seconds to 60 which is a good number but still not remotely a sports car. I like your 'sporty car' category. That fits well.
Daily sports car?
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Haha I dont have enough to afford a small car, big car and motorcycle
VW at leasts puts a slip differential and other electronics to manage the torque steer.
Also, personally, I prefer this platform for modding and thought it was a better bang for buck than a Civic SI. I also considered a Accord 2.0T with the MT but it was awful. Open diff (torque steer), sloppy MT and drove like a boat
If I really wanted to drown in debt ... The garage would probably have
Lexus GX or a Tahoe RST
Street Triple RS
BMW M2 Competition
Lexus GSF (at least one reliable car in the fleet)
But we are saving up for a house so those things are put on hold.
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Might end up needing a car sooner rather than later. How's this thing work with COVID-19 all around us now? I've seen some dealerships stating 'virtual test drives'...wtf is that? How's that work on used cars? New I can see it kind of...but how does one buy a car without actually being able to test drive it!?
Used cars prices are circling the drain right now. Tons of leases expiring and nobody is buying them. When life restarts there will be a huge glut of inventory. Toy cars are also one of the first to go when people need cash for their mortgage. I would hold off if I were you.
Now, if you really want something now, Its a buyers market. Find something you want in stock and dealers may be happy for some cash flow or get someone to look for the vehicle you want. If it is available at auction, you will be up against a lot less competition so you will have some money left to fix issues.
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We are literally selling cars sight unseen. E-transfer or CC, pick up the car with all the paperwork or we can have it dropped off at your place. Just delivered a car to Sault Ste Marie.
Risky for sure but if you're buying from the right dealer, it shouldn't be an issue.
If you're in the test drive phase and just want to get a "feel" for cars, stay your ass home. You're not serious.
Risky for sure but if you're buying from the right dealer, it shouldn't be an issue.
If you're in the test drive phase and just want to get a "feel" for cars, stay your ass home. You're not serious.
Having the right dealer makes all the difference, you're correct. But I disagree with your last statement. If a person is serious, I personally would never buy a car without test driving it first. It's a very expensive purchase to be buying sight unseen. Especially if you don't know the dealer or the car as well as you'd like prior to committing. But maybe that's the new reality moving forward.
You just may need to reframe your thinking and negotiation. Something along the lines of you buy the car with a 14 day test drive. They get a few thousand on delivery and have a cashiers cheque (or whatever secure post-dated money transfer is these days) for the balance. If the car is not as represented, you hand it back and get your deposit back (likely minus a nominal cleaning/delivery fee). Seems like that may be a reasonable approach in this mess. Both sides have some protection and minimal interaction.
Yup, that may be the way to go. Maybe even a 3-5 day instead of 14 as otherwise you've got guys 'renting' cars for 14 days for a small cleaning fee, whatever that may be. But it would have to protect both sides.
blackcamaro
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I don’t blame you wanting to test drive, more often then not it’s the second biggest purchase people make so it’s understandable you know you like it before buying. I have sold a lot without the customer driving the vehicle but that doesn’t mean it’s for everyone.
This is coming up on our 4th week closed. The last deal I did before closing I told the customer on the day he picked the car up he would hand me the draft to hold onto and then take it for a drive, if he was happy when he got back I kept the draft and he kept the car. Obviously if he didn’t like it vice versa. This worked for both of us.
I have seen some dealers that are doing a short term exchange policy. The exchange thing is a bit of headache so I don’t know if it’s something I would go for and it isn’t something I would do as a buyer. Just puts everyone in a weird spot and tough to make a fair deal on the second car your “exhanging” for.
Personally I would be looking for a 1 day 100km straight up return policy. Let’s face it any test drive you do under normal circumstances would be shorter then that so you should be able to know if you like the car or not by that time. As the dealer I would want full payment and/or finance contracts signed but I would hold off submitting till the test drive period is up. I think this is fair for both parties.
This is coming up on our 4th week closed. The last deal I did before closing I told the customer on the day he picked the car up he would hand me the draft to hold onto and then take it for a drive, if he was happy when he got back I kept the draft and he kept the car. Obviously if he didn’t like it vice versa. This worked for both of us.
I have seen some dealers that are doing a short term exchange policy. The exchange thing is a bit of headache so I don’t know if it’s something I would go for and it isn’t something I would do as a buyer. Just puts everyone in a weird spot and tough to make a fair deal on the second car your “exhanging” for.
Personally I would be looking for a 1 day 100km straight up return policy. Let’s face it any test drive you do under normal circumstances would be shorter then that so you should be able to know if you like the car or not by that time. As the dealer I would want full payment and/or finance contracts signed but I would hold off submitting till the test drive period is up. I think this is fair for both parties.
Dresden
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What kind of cars are we talking here.
Used. below $20K.
Dresden
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How’s the margin on a sub $20K car delivered to Sault St. Marie?
I’m not insinuating that you’re a liar or anything of the sort.
Something doesn’t add up for me: either the selling dealer (ie you) are desperate, or I’m grossly underestimating the stupidity of a buyer to pay $15-$20k for a used vehicle, sight unseen from a remote (to them) “dealer”.
Alternatively, there’s much more margin on used cars for dealers as people struggle to give them away in this environment.
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Customer covered the cost but it is not as expensive as you think.
If I drop the car off to the shipper in Brampton, it was $400. If they pick it up from our dealership, it's $500.
Don't get me wrong, business has definitely slowed down and we're not selling anywhere near the volume we normally would but there's an opportunity there. Desperation isn't the word I would use but why not minimize losses and make some money along the way?
Iceman
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I've spent the last five weeks trying to replace the Odyssey. Finally got a steal price on a used Toyota Venza with under 100k on it.
I can't even go into the details, it's been hell trying to find a car.
I had no choice, I'm still working daily and the van was done.
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Agreed. If there's a way to keep making money and supporting your company and family then I'm all for it. No point in just sitting around and watching the bank accounts go down without inflow.
Dresden
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Thanks for the response; it's good to hear from the ground level that money is still exchanging hands.
I think the market is presenting a good opportunity to be a buyer if one is looking for a fun daily sports car. I.e. you will lose less money or break even when you sell in the <$50K market while enjoying all the benefits
Oh if only I could afford a viper....maybe an S2000 will show up in my price range lol. Things are insane price.
Minty unmolested s2000's seem to now be in the league of fd rx7's and mkIV supras.
Clean s2ks are now commanding top $$$
For years avi singhs s2000 was sitting in a yard beside Weston road with some damage. Not sure if it is still there. It was pretty distinctive with the wrap.
