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Curious about side hustles around here.

I'll come to a cottage and work a dock/deck assembly day if we get to fish later and get liquored up. Maybe not even fish.

I think the next big handy boom will be installing handrails , grab bars and making homes 'accessible' , and mobility aids. Sheltering in place and "aging at home" will be the next big thing, we have seen the shiteshow seniors residences have become. People will need to stay in their house and will need help.
And there is a shortage of people to do this .
 
crankcall said:
I'll come to a cottage and work a dock/deck assembly day if we get to fish later and get liquored up. Maybe not even fish.

I think the next big handy boom will be installing handrails , grab bars and making homes 'accessible' , and mobility aids. Sheltering in place and "aging at home" will be the next big thing, we have seen the shiteshow seniors residences have become. People will need to stay in their house and will need help.
And there is a shortage of people to do this .
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Bingo. The lovely 86 year old lady across the street has severe Alzheimer's but has a side split house on a decent sized lot. She doesn't belong in a full blown hospital due to costs. A patient with dementia could take hours to eat a meal. Having a nurse sit with her eight hours a day is not financially practical. The present LTC situation is not good with regards to communicable diseases. Her daughter is only allowed two hours per day but could work from her mom's home.

That would be a major reno due to lifts and bathroom modifications. Six figures???

For things like railings and grab bars the installer needs to know their stuff. A couple of plastic anchors is OK for a towel hook or soap dish but not a safety device. Now we get into certification and professionals, permits, bureaucracy, inspections, insurances*** etc when inspectors are shying away from on site checks due to Covid exposure concerns.

The inspector has to be 2 X Vax but so does every trade, visitor or resident on site.

There's a lot of mental restructuring needed as well. LTC for a dementia patient could be five figures a month so selling a $1.5 million dollar house would provide care for ten or fifteen years but a lot of people have the "Leave the house to the children" mentality. This train wreck has happened so fast the 50 year old kids may not have geared up for a minimal inheritance situation and it's kind of late to start.

***Insurances: Insurance companies have to make money and they do so by risk management. I've seen enough "Risk management" to know that a part timer couldn't get a decent rate. That's OK if you're protected by poverty (Not worth suing) but that attracts less competent people.

Bureaucracide: Death by regulation
 
nobbie48 said:
Bingo. The lovely 86 year old lady across the street has severe Alzheimer's but has a side split house on a decent sized lot. She doesn't belong in a full blown hospital due to costs. A patient with dementia could take hours to eat a meal. Having a nurse sit with her eight hours a day is not financially practical. The present LTC situation is not good with regards to communicable diseases. Her daughter is only allowed two hours per day but could work from her mom's home.

That would be a major reno due to lifts and bathroom modifications. Six figures???

For things like railings and grab bars the installer needs to know their stuff. A couple of plastic anchors is OK for a towel hook or soap dish but not a safety device. Now we get into certification and professionals, permits, bureaucracy, inspections, insurances*** etc when inspectors are shying away from on site checks due to Covid exposure concerns.

The inspector has to be 2 X Vax but so does every trade, visitor or resident on site.

There's a lot of mental restructuring needed as well. LTC for a dementia patient could be five figures a month so selling a $1.5 million dollar house would provide care for ten or fifteen years but a lot of people have the "Leave the house to the children" mentality. This train wreck has happened so fast the 50 year old kids may not have geared up for a minimal inheritance situation and it's kind of late to start.

***Insurances: Insurance companies have to make money and they do so by risk management. I've seen enough "Risk management" to know that a part timer couldn't get a decent rate. That's OK if you're protected by poverty (Not worth suing) but that attracts less competent people.

Bureaucracide: Death by regulation
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Five figures a month is a retirement home and the majority of those arent well suited for dementia. Nursing home is mostly public money with the resident kicking in ~1000 a month if they want a private room.

Assuming they sold their house for 1.5, it would be criminal not to have a substantial percentage of that invested.

If their brain is good but the body is failing, mobility retrofit makes sense. Once the brain starts to go, it is just lighting money on fire as the mobility retrofits dont solve the major problem and will be valued at zero or less by potential buyers. In general, most houses are poor places to get old. Once you stop using what it has to offer (gardens, garage, sewing room, dinner parties, etc) and it becomes a burden instead of a joy, it's time to move. Something with less space and no stairs. Ideally with easy access to prepared food at least once a day.
 
GreyGhost said:
Five figures a month is a retirement home and the majority of those arent well suited for dementia. Nursing home is mostly public money with the resident kicking in ~1000 a month if they want a private room.

Assuming they sold their house for 1.5, it would be criminal not to have a substantial percentage of that invested.

If their brain is good but the body is failing, mobility retrofit makes sense. Once the brain starts to go, it is just lighting money on fire as the mobility retrofits dont solve the major problem and will be valued at zero or less by potential buyers. In general, most houses are poor places to get old. Once you stop using what it has to offer (gardens, garage, sewing room, dinner parties, etc) and it becomes a burden instead of a joy, it's time to move. Something with less space and no stairs. Ideally with easy access to prepared food at least once a day.
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When my mother-in-law broke her leg a few years ago her son renovated a bathroom to full blown handicap. The house sold after M-I-L passed away and it all got ripped out.
 
Don't do it. Unless you're hard up for money, or unless it's a job you enjoy so much that you would do it even if it wasn't paid. Otherwise why bring extra stress into your life? Having lots of free time is more important than having a bit of extra money. Nobody lies on their death bed wishing they worked more.
 
danp said:
Don't do it. Unless you're hard up for money, or unless it's a job you enjoy so much that you would do it even if it wasn't paid. Otherwise why bring extra stress into your life? Having lots of free time is more important than having a bit of extra money. Nobody lies on their death bed wishing they worked more.
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whisky taster?
 
danp said:
Don't do it. Unless you're hard up for money, or unless it's a job you enjoy so much that you would do it even if it wasn't paid. Otherwise why bring extra stress into your life? Having lots of free time is more important than having a bit of extra money. Nobody lies on their death bed wishing they worked more.
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Hit the nail on the head. Side hustle needs to be stress free.
 
The other option is to get better at the main job and make create more $ doing that. But that also takes time.

Thanks all for the suggestions and comments. Highly appreciate it.
 
jc100 said:
true that…as a student I always looked at some handicrafts and thought “no way is that worth…..”. Now some of that is true…some “craftsmen” don’t produce works of art and still charge a fortune for their tat. But when you see the work that goes into throwing a good clay pot and painting it, or how a cigar is made, a carving is done or the time that goes into a painting…it’s a different story. I have a different appreciation of some artists work having seen the creation process.

Having said that, a picture frame or mirror with glued on seashells around the edge is still a piece of crap.
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Copycats and plagiarists. Look at that. Anyone can make it. Yeah but only when they got the idea from someone else.
 
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More fun than recycling skids into tater boxes.

Everyone wants cheap windshield washer fluid.
 
mimico_polak said:
The other option is to get better at the main job and make create more $ doing that. But that also takes time.

Thanks all for the suggestions and comments. Highly appreciate it.
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Not always possible , my wife picked a **** career as an RN ( now clinical resource nurse, paediatric manager) , in a GTA hospital . And that comes with a provincial salary cap. Not other branches of service , the nurses. The nurses have a crappy union, and can't strike.

She'll have an OK pension which most of the workforce doesn't get , so there is that.

Me on the other hand, the biggest thing I pick up all day is a pencil, and all my work involves phone calls and staring at spreadsheets . I like picking up a hammer on Saturday.
 
When I was working on my private pilot's license a friend who was commerical pilot for a rinky dink regional outfit suggested I go commercial and then become a flight instructor. I could teach part time and use the money I made during the week to rent for an hour on a weekend for my private flying.

At that time the commerical upgrade would have been about $10K and the part time paid about $10 an hour, about a quarter of what I could make creating sawdust. The status of flight instructer didn't mean much to those knowledgeable in flying. Logging 1000 hours as pilot in command of a Cessna 152 didn't impress Air Canada. Status can be expensive.

Some side jobs destroy the fun factor.
 
crankcall said:
Not always possible , my wife picked a **** career as an RN ( now clinical resource nurse, paediatric manager) , in a GTA hospital . And that comes with a provincial salary cap. Not other branches of service , the nurses. The nurses have a crappy union, and can't strike.

She'll have an OK pension which most of the workforce doesn't get , so there is that.

Me on the other hand, the biggest thing I pick up all day is a pencil, and all my work involves phone calls and staring at spreadsheets . I like picking up a hammer on Saturday.
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The pandemic stress has been tough on nurses, many are stepping away from frontline care. RN is a good profession to be in now if you're tough - OT and big dollar contract work is everywhere. My daughter is an RN at a downtown hospital, they really don't need a side hustle - on her floor is most are in s figures, no union, and a decent HOOPP pension $8.8k/mo at 55. At 55 they can formally retire and pickup as many/few hours as they like contract nursing. Good gig you're tough.

Like you, all the heavy lifting I need to do at work can be done with a pencil, and Microsoft Office. At out shop there is a lot of heavy lifting - steel stuff at 30-50kg/carton. I try to spend a 30 minutes out back each day handling stuff - it's a good workout for me, and it builds respect and trust with the fellas out back that slug the stuff all day.
 
Mad Mike said:
The pandemic stress has been tough on nurses, many are stepping away from frontline care. RN is a good profession to be in now if you're tough - OT and big dollar contract work is everywhere. My daughter is an RN at a downtown hospital, they really don't need a side hustle - on her floor is most are in s figures, no union, and a decent HOOPP pension $8.8k/mo at 55. At 55 they can formally retire and pickup as many/few hours as they like contract nursing. Good gig you're tough.

Like you, all the heavy lifting I need to do at work can be done with a pencil, and Microsoft Office. At out shop there is a lot of heavy lifting - steel stuff at 30-50kg/carton. I try to spend a 30 minutes out back each day handling stuff - it's a good workout for me, and it builds respect and trust with the fellas out back that slug the stuff all day.
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My sister in New Zealand is a nurse and it sounds like theyhave similar problems as we do.

The money and benefits are good enough to attract people that aren't really hurse material and the good ones get judged by the examples set by the bad.

The responsibilities they carry get downplayed so when budget cuts are discussed nurses are vulnerable. They aren't seen to be as important as fire fighters or doctors.

Shift work sucks.
 
Evoex said:
Hit the nail on the head. Side hustle needs to be stress free.
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Much this. Don't know about you guys but my day job feels like (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

I don't want a side hustle that does that too lol

Mad Mike said:
The pandemic stress has been tough on nurses, many are stepping away from frontline care. RN is a good profession to be in now if you're tough - OT and big dollar contract work is everywhere. My daughter is an RN at a downtown hospital, they really don't need a side hustle - on her floor is most are in s figures, no union, and a decent HOOPP pension $8.8k/mo at 55. At 55 they can formally retire and pickup as many/few hours as they like contract nursing. Good gig you're tough.
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Can't emphasize the "if you're tough" enough. Empathy burnout is a *****.
 
The question for me has always been is the additional income worth the time put in? Assuming the full time gig provides the income and benefits, you will spend time away from your family for the extra funds that can provide you and the family with additional discretionary funds.

Does your spouse or anyone else have to pick up the slack while you are doing the side hustle?

Is there opportunity with your primary employer to focus on career development or with the side hustle limit your ability to do that?

If the side hustle becomes enjoyable as well as profitable, will you become less vested in the regular job?


My wife had 3 jobs at one time. After evaluating everything she was doing and the total income, we both discovered she could focus on one and earn as much, if not more doing one job and enjoy it and have time to enjoy hobbies, the kids and some time with me. Lol.

Full disclosure, I drive a school bus in the mornings. The wage is peanuts really but, I do it early in the morning and done by 9am to start my day job. It’s not really a side hustle but, it’s enough for me to buy more motorcycle gear and parts and gas for the season etc.

And I find it fun. When it loses its lustre, I’ll likely call it a day.


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Few jobs you couldn't pay me to do, including school'bus driver as I do not like children.

Hygienist, massage and working in a nail salon. Hairdresser politician and car sales. Well any sales prob
 
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