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COVID and the housing market

Our kids are bugging us to sell and move to a retirement community. No f'n way!
Rather take a dirt nap than listen to people ***** about my pressure washer and 2t smoke.
Oh they will complain and they will be ******.

I got a notice one morning because I parked my car sideways for one night before trading it in. Morning letter ‘your car can’t be parked sideways’.

meanwhile the neighbours were drinking and smoking weed from morning to night and no one says boo because they were all scared of them. I miss my drunks....they were the neighbourhood watch so long as they could stand on their feet. Decent guys but ALWAYS drunk/high.
 
Our kids are bugging us to sell and move to a retirement community. No f'n way!
Rather take a dirt nap than listen to people ***** about my pressure washer and 2t smoke.
No stairs would be nice though :/

I tell my in-laws the same thing. They come home from the cottage just to water the plants at home. wth. Sell the house, buy a condo. They normally travel a bunch in the winter and spend most of the summer at the cottage. Now, financially, they are probably ahead as the house is appreciating much faster than a condo, but they are pensioned, they don't need that money anyway.

I don't think I could ever live in a condo. The busy-bodies would drive me nuts. If I'm not hurting you, piss off and let me do my thing. Maybe, just maybe it might work if I lived in a condo but kept an industrial unit for me to play in.
 
We have spent approx $25k making the house safe for her. We have great neighbours which means a lot. A condo would prolly put the final nail in the 2 wheel coffin.
Btw, we are looking into new tech for her. Spinal implant therapy. Fingers crossed.
 
We have spent approx $25k making the house safe for her. We have great neighbours which means a lot. A condo would prolly put the final nail in the 2 wheel coffin.
Btw, we are looking into new tech for her. Spinal implant therapy. Fingers crossed.
It's great that you still have some options to try. Good luck and I hope something helps.
 

What the honest f***

I think after COVID, I will leverage my degree and move to the US :(
 

What the honest f***

I think after COVID, I will leverage my degree and move to the US :(
Kind of BS. You can't look back to forecast that far forward. Also for the numbers to be remotely feasible, you need interest rates to stay very low for the next 30 years which is highly unlikely.

The ponzi scheme was financed by people buying a 100K condo, selling for 250, buying a townhouse for 400, selling for 600, buying an 800K house, selling for 1.5 etc. We have essentially lost the bottom step or two. Sure, some peoples parents are sitting on a giant amount of money tied up in real estate that they could leverage to help their kid(s) jump in at step two or three, but they are the exception. Especially if multiple kids are involved, not many parents can afford to distribute many hundreds of thousands times multiple kids to get them into the market.

Can you imagine if interest rates climbed even a little? People currently surviving while paying $2000+ month in interest are all of a sudden drowning paying $4000+ a month in interest. They need to get out and downsize to something affordable which will stall (and maybe even drop) a substantial portion of the housing market.
 
I'm not sure what's happening right now in the market, but you would assume (I know assuming bad) that in this type of economy, with a pandemic raging through, the market is going bananas! My friend has been looking for a house (semi/town/whatever) within the GTA for months and has been outbid on every property. One townhouse in Mississauga had 76 offers and went for about 180k over asking. Another house in Hamilton that he bid on...38 bids and 80k over. WTF! He ended up settling in Guelph for a 4 bed / 4 bath condo to use as an investment so he can buy in the GTA in the future while he rents to students (are schools even returning this year or next?).

What's happening. Are there so many more people with money than there are without a good financial backing?

A place a few blocks away from our house, 800k list price...sold for 1.25M! Total tear down! We saw them emptying the house right before it went on the market. Bin after bin after bin of junk/stuff.

Honestly I'm glad I'm not looking for a house, but I am curious what my house is worth with this insanity.

Buddies in construction are saying they've never been busier. Cottages are selling like hotcakes.

What is happening!?

It's a total crap fest. I was at an auction a while back and an unsuccessful bidder griped "It isn't worth it." The auctioneer replied very accurately "It's worth what I get for it."

If you have $300K plus your home equity and want to move you can sell your home and now you know what you have in your pocket. That doesn't guarantee that the house you want will still be available for what's in your pocket. You could end up with the same thing but with a bigger mortgage. Or you could be laughing.

You can buy first and hope but a cautious buyer would aim low in case their house didn't sell for 10% over or a sudden market correction kick in. If the caution wasn't justified you'll forever be kicking yourself for not getting the one with the three car garage or bigger lot.

The government seriously needs to look at the capital gains situation for flippers and investors.

I did service work on condos and good ones are fine but which ones are good? A condo is only as good as the owners. They elect the directors that run the place and pick the manager. Pettiness and misunderstandings are the norm. There is nothing worse than a director that is a retired VIP trying to relive his days of power by challenging every decision the property manager makes.

More than one property management company has undisclosed not-at-arms-length connections with service companies. Guess who gets the inflated contracts? It's easy to get ultra high quotes to make high quotes look reasonable.

IMO:

Never buy into a building that has rentals or at least more than a few.

The absentee owner doesn't want to pay for cleaning and maintenance but they don't have to live in the filth and decay. The renter doesn't have a say in the running of the building nor do they have to pay if they abuse stuff.

Maintenance costs go up with the height of the building.

Apparently hydraulic elevators are far cheaper to maintain than cable but hydraulics are limited to a few stories.

Underground parking has maintenance (Cost) and security issues. Condo fees are minimal with townhouses that have their own garages and you don't have to mow lawns, shovel snow or have money set aside for roofs or external painting. Freeholds may differ.

Just south of Cambridge my mother-in-law's detached house was appraised two years ago for about $450K. It sold two months ago for $580K and they got a bargain.

I've heard rumours of people having problems with getting insurance and mortgages for over priced properties in the boonies.

It will be interesting to look in the rear view mirror ten years down the road. WFH, EV's, internet communications, politics, covid stabilization, climate change etc.
 
Just went for a nice lunchtime walk and found this in our mail...

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as well as I saw 2 more houses go up for sale since yesterday.

Property sold a few blocks away confirmed....mid 700 asking for a tear down....sold for 1.25 or so.

New properties listing for 1.3+

Sure I can sell....but what am I gonna get for my money? More mortgage and less house for sure.
 
I got pre-approved for $350k this year. The real estate agent and mortgage broker both said good luck
 
Meh I could never deal with a fee for maintience, money I am spending with no control over. I would try to get onto the condo board, at least there is a chance to know what is going on. A friend of mine told me a story how her neighbour got a whole new ktichen from a small water leak, the neighbour sits on the condo board.

A friend bought a condo townhouse two years ago for just under $500K. Now it's worth about $700K. It has a two car garage and is an end unit. Maintenance isn't that much $200-300 a month. He doesn't have to mow lawns or shovel snow, patch roofs etc. I could stomach it. High rise is a different story.
 
WFNS? Work from Nova Scotia?
Thought about it ..

I liked my broker but the banks are douches. Oh you want $500k then we need a bigger downpayment or find a better paying job. BUT if you quit this job you won't qualify for a A mortgage anymore due to lack of job history. So Mrs. Banker what should we do? Mrs. Banker, I'm not here to provide financial advice :cautious:
 
Just went for a nice lunchtime walk and found this in our mail...

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as well as I saw 2 more houses go up for sale since yesterday.

Property sold a few blocks away confirmed....mid 700 asking for a tear down....sold for 1.25 or so.

New properties listing for 1.3+

Sure I can sell....but what am I gonna get for my money? More mortgage and less house for sure.
Hahaha. I got a very similar "hand-written" note today. I wonder if a marketing company is selling them a package or if there is one company running them all. 705homebuyer.ca Different office addresses but they seem too similar to be unrelated.
 
I hear canada is a hub for money launderers, throw in a bunch of speculators, and tons of immigrants and you have what is the ontario real estate market.


Back in the day a house was an essential service, just to stay alive and put a roof over your head, now its just an investment strategy.
 
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I hear canada is a hub for money launderers, throw in a bunch of speculators, and tons of immigrants and you have what is the ontario real estate market.

This is true.

Asians are planting their money in houses here
 
This is true.

Asians are planting their money in houses here
Best line I got from my lawyer ‘when you see Asians moving into your area, and about 50% of the houses start getting demolished and rebuilt, sell quickly and change areas as that’s when it’s most lucrative.

As for your bank issue...we had the same problem but once we went to a broker they were more willing. Of course once BMO found out we were approved for way more than what we wanted.
 
Thought about it ..

I liked my broker but the banks are douches. Oh you want $500k then we need a bigger downpayment or find a better paying job. BUT if you quit this job you won't qualify for a A mortgage anymore due to lack of job history. So Mrs. Banker what should we do? Mrs. Banker, I'm not here to provide financial advice :cautious:

Too many small town bankers are turds.
 
I hear canada is a hub for money launderers, throw in a bunch of speculators, and tons of immigrants and you have what is the ontario real estate market.


Back in the day a house was an essential service, just to stay alive and put a roof over your head, now its just an investment strategy.

Buy a dump, pay trades cash to expand it to the max and sell it as your prime residence and no questions asked. Your drug money is now clean. Repeat.
 
No different then us getting letters in our mailbox 'we will buy your house cash!'

LEO will underprice your house, and make his money on the sell, and if not, he'll buy it for whatever price works for HIM.

I considered looking into how much we can sell our house for, but the problem persists....where the F am I going to go? Bought for 950k less than 2 years ago. Properties in our area similar to ours (with less work done inside) are listing at 1.2-1.3M. So I sell for 1.2M let's say, now I can't buy a house for less than 1.5M (and possibly in worse condition than mine)...no thanks.
Bunch of co workers made this jump in ‘17. Bought pre construction 5 bedroom 3.5 bathroom developments in Alliston for $550. Sold their Markham townhouses for $1.2+. No mortgage, new Benz suvs in the driveway, money in the bank and they are laughing.
 
I've heard rumours of people having problems with getting insurance and mortgages for over priced properties in the boonies.
I've heard rumours people getting crazy money for fairly marginal water access only properties in the boonies, sometimes even buying up multiple small lots to make one big one. My guess is they own a floatplane.
 

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