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COVID and the housing market

Condo boards and HOA can be very reasonable and transparent. They can also be full of nutters . If looking at a property do your homework , it’s sometime hard to get a read on a place , but some due diligence goes a long way.

You can challenge any HOA or cottage association and condo board , but you run the risk of being ostracized and possibly forced out , and lawyers are not cheap.


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Many many condos include architectural control provisions such as the colour and style of window coverings/blinds. They are entirely located in private space and condo is not responsible for them. I'm not sure if these provisions would stand up in court but they are in many condos. If they argue the locks are for architectural control even if they are outside of ownership by the corp, they could be treated similarly. Again, it may not be right but being the squeaky wheel telling everyone else to mind their own business doesn't work. You will quickly be driven out.
It sometimes comes down to how much fight is in the dog. Condo board members and owners can be equally juvenile in conflict. My experience is boards attract idle people, busy bodies, and people looking for some personal advantages, and there are always whining owners who make pestering the board a hobby.

Sadly it's hard to get skilled people to put up with all the guff that comes with volunteering.

My angle has always been to maintain great neighborly relationships and to only raise my hand to important issues. A small rabnle of smart reasonable people can people can often control a board.
 
Douggies house is for sale. 6 tettenhall. Listed for 3.2, housesigma thinks it will sell for 3.1 (and their estimates seem to be falling fast lately). Hes moving into his late mom's house.
 
Douggies house is for sale. 6 tettenhall. Listed for 3.2, housesigma thinks it will sell for 3.1 (and their estimates seem to be falling fast lately). Hes moving into his late mom's house.
I bet his neighbours are dancing in the street! There's been a lot of 'protesters' clogging that street and causing chaos at times, making everyone's life a living hell.
 
I agree that cheap money was fueling house prices in most markets -- not so sure it's going to make a huge diff in the core areas of the GTA and VAN as there are still housing shortages, a good jobs market, and huge population influxes continuing to increase the already strong demand in those centers.

While housing does factor into inflation, the more significant concern to me is going to be how gov'ts handle compensation demands from the public sector - will they tow the same line as the private sector? If they widen the gap faster and further, they will further fuel inflation.

The public sector compensation in IT / Digital roles is a joke for Toronto.

The entry level jobs, some get in with no degrees, pay good but the more technical roles are not competitive with the private sector. So it is difficult to retain talent and big funky mess.

But you have pretty good stability, benefits and a pension. Is that worth losing ~$30k/year over the private sector though?
 
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The public sector compensation in IT / Digital roles is a joke for Toronto.

The entry level jobs, some get in with no degrees, pay good but the more technical roles are not competitive with the private sector. So it is difficult to retain talent and big funky mess.

But you have pretty good stability, benefits and a pension. Is that worth losing ~$30k/year over the private sector though?
Don't have a problem with that. Govt shouldn't be in the IT biz, they should be contracting that kinda work out.
 
is that more effective?
When parts of Toronto contracted out garbage collection problems went away.

Do a lousy job and your contact doesn't get renewed, no severances.

If the guy / gal doing the work has a half brain they realize for the contract to be renewed they have to actually try to do their job. Supporting a lazy co-worker could cost them their own job. Food for thought.
 
is that more effective?
Generally yes. Govt should not be the business of competing with the private sector.

Find me a study anywhere by anyone that shows public sector workers are more productive than the private sector.
 
Generally yes. Govt should not be the business of competing with the private sector.

Find me a study anywhere by anyone that shows public sector workers are more productive than the private sector.
Public sector unions probably have a bunch that they have paid for. Now whether it is real or optimistically analysed data is a very real question.
 
Generally yes. Govt should not be the business of competing with the private sector.

Find me a study anywhere by anyone that shows public sector workers are more productive than the private sector.

I'd be curious if you can point to a study that shows the opposite? Besides, individual worker productivity is not the metric that matters if comparing public vs private for some jobs. If a company is squeezing crazy productivity out of their employees but keeping a huge profit on top, it's meaningless to the taxpayer. Limited competition has become rampant in these days of worker shortages, too, with public tenders often now coming back with prices well above internal costing. I work in contract administration for tendered public work, and we're increasingly seeing either a single bidder well over budget forecast (yes, factoring for inflation) or obvious signs of collusion. When I was a contractor, collusion was rampant in that market as well. Ironically, the low-bid process actually encourages those shenanigans.

Saying all private is better is as wrong as saying all public is better. Each has its place. Private prisons in the US, water and electricity in the UK, and countless other examples, have had horrible end results for the public. Other privatision has been more successful, though it takes time to measure the results.

For example, they went private for garbage in 2015 in a BC city near Vancouver and it started out great as the market was flooded with competing outfits all desperate to build a client base with low prices. Over time, the competition thinned, the prices rose drastically, and the service quality dropped. Eventually, it was no better than it was before, and in many ways worse, so they have since reversed course and returned to a city-managed single collector.

When I did work on a Telus building in BC, the layers of waste and bureaucracy were eye-watering. Middle managers became professional problem-dodgers, avoiding making decisions and deferring desperately needed projects until they inevitably got shuffled to a different department, leaving the new guy to work out how to avoid the risk of making a decision and spending money. I still grit my teeth when I pay my mobile bill, but I know Rogers and Bell are just as bad if not worse. (And before anyone points to cheaper rates in the US, they have the same short list of players, just massively increased density and volume that keeps costs lower, not some magic privatization/deregulation formula).

My theory is the problem isn't inherently public vs private, it's a problem with massive organisations and the inherent LCD systems therein that create endless waste and inefficiencies. People I know who worked at Microsoft and Google noted similar bureaucratic incentives to delay, waste and obfuscate due to the sheer scale of the operation. When things get that big, agility is impossible and waste is inherent. Working with the City of Toronto is much more difficult and layered than working for the City of Stratford.
 
I'd be curious if you can point to a study that shows the opposite? Besides, individual worker productivity is not the metric that matters if comparing public vs private for some jobs. If a company is squeezing crazy productivity out of their employees but keeping a huge profit on top, it's meaningless to the taxpayer. Limited competition has become rampant in these days of worker shortages, too, with public tenders often now coming back with prices well above internal costing. I work in contract administration for tendered public work, and we're increasingly seeing either a single bidder well over budget forecast (yes, factoring for inflation) or obvious signs of collusion. When I was a contractor, collusion was rampant in that market as well. Ironically, the low-bid process actually encourages those shenanigans.

Saying all private is better is as wrong as saying all public is better. Each has its place. Private prisons in the US, water and electricity in the UK, and countless other examples, have had horrible end results for the public. Other privatision has been more successful, though it takes time to measure the results.

For example, they went private for garbage in 2015 in a BC city near Vancouver and it started out great as the market was flooded with competing outfits all desperate to build a client base with low prices. Over time, the competition thinned, the prices rose drastically, and the service quality dropped. Eventually, it was no better than it was before, and in many ways worse, so they have since reversed course and returned to a city-managed single collector.

When I did work on a Telus building in BC, the layers of waste and bureaucracy were eye-watering. Middle managers became professional problem-dodgers, avoiding making decisions and deferring desperately needed projects until they inevitably got shuffled to a different department, leaving the new guy to work out how to avoid the risk of making a decision and spending money. I still grit my teeth when I pay my mobile bill, but I know Rogers and Bell are just as bad if not worse. (And before anyone points to cheaper rates in the US, they have the same short list of players, just massively increased density and volume that keeps costs lower, not some magic privatization/deregulation formula).

My theory is the problem isn't inherently public vs private, it's a problem with massive organisations and the inherent LCD systems therein that create endless waste and inefficiencies. People I know who worked at Microsoft and Google noted similar bureaucratic incentives to delay, waste and obfuscate due to the sheer scale of the operation. When things get that big, agility is impossible and waste is inherent. Working with the City of Toronto is much more difficult and layered than working for the City of Stratford.
My wife worked in auto insurance. Nothing is as bad as a private sector industry with control of the public sector government.
 
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My theory is the problem isn't inherently public vs private, it's a problem with massive organisations and the inherent LCD systems therein that create endless waste and inefficiencies. People I know who worked at Microsoft and Google noted similar bureaucratic incentives to delay, waste and obfuscate due to the sheer scale of the operation. When things get that big, agility is impossible and waste is inherent. Working with the City of Toronto is much more difficult and layered than working for the City of Stratford.
You need more than a few anecdotal examples to prove your theory. (fwiw, the privatization failures you mentioned were govt failings, either in oversight or regulatory.)

I will agree the larger a beauacracy becomes, the harder it is to maintain productivity. Again I'll challenge you to find a scholarly article or study that concludes public sector workers are as oroductive as their private sector counterparts.
 
How is this $hit legal....

 
How is this $hit legal....

I would love to know the truth on that one The builder says the fees are perfectly within the normal range and the buyers say their way high someone is spinning something truth probably in the middle

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I would love to know the truth on that one The builder says the fees are perfectly within the normal range and the buyers say their way high someone is spinning something truth probably in the middle

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I would expect costs like these should be considered / identified in the early documentation.

I’d love a copy of the original contract.
 

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