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COVID and the housing market

my ex and I moved to Milton in 2002...we bought phase 1 of Mattamy when they first opened up in 2001...2,455 square feet, detached, 40' lot, two car garage, 4 bed, 2.5 bath for $262,000...we divorced and sold in 2009 in one day for $420,000...I saw a similar model to ours for sale just the other day for $1.4M...WOW...
The home I now inherited was purchased in '99; Etobicoke, 1,500 feet detached, no garage, 3 bedroom, 2 bath for 250k. The one behind mine just sold in 2 days for $1.4 with about 100k in renos done. I remember my dad telling me a few years ago they were going for $800+, couldn't believe it then and don't believe it now.
 
Similar to @Evoex my parents bought their house in the early 90s or so. $220k and about 500-700m away from his dad's place.

Couple years ago it was worth maybe 800k...today...probably 1-1.2M easy. Fully paid off, cottage paid off, just bought an investment unit in Poland. I'm happy for them that it's worked out.
 
My Milton 3br 2400sq 2 car gagrage 3 bath was $245 when I bought it , 1m on the way out two yrs ago , similar are 1.2-1.4
My parents Campbellville farm was 100k in 1976 , just sold last yr for 4.5 m .

We all wish we had a crystal ball


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Yup. Crystal ball would be great. I thought I sold my 6-plex right before COVID and I was a genius....I cry at night nowadays thinking about losing that property.

But...banks refused to let us buy a house otherwise. So we didn't have a choice. Maybe one day we will get back into the investment property business.

How far North do I need to go to buy an investment property for 200-300k? LoL
 
My Milton 3br 2400sq 2 car gagrage 3 bath was $245 when I bought it , 1m on the way out two yrs ago , similar are 1.2-1.4
My parents Campbellville farm was 100k in 1976 , just sold last yr for 4.5 m .

We all wish we had a crystal ball


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My first house was on the north side of Derry Rd just east of 25. Bought it in 79 for $66k, sold it in 85 i think for $122k.
 
My Milton 3br 2400sq 2 car gagrage 3 bath was $245 when I bought it , 1m on the way out two yrs ago , similar are 1.2-1.4
My parents Campbellville farm was 100k in 1976 , just sold last yr for 4.5 m .

We all wish we had a crystal ball


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50 years ago I thought about buying some land just north of Milton at IIRC $1,000 an acre, 20 acres, negotiable price, 5% interest rate.

I didn't because my future kids would have had to walk to school five miles in the snow uphill both ways.

Just for laughs watch some film noir from the 1940's on YouTube. In one movie the guy, an alcoholic, steals $10 and goes on a bender. Now that's one drink. Justin could spin his inflation numbers into winning the fight against alcoholism.
 
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If somebody owns a paid off house worth 1.5 million, why wouldn't they sell it, buy a house in nova scotia or alberta for 300k, and invest the remaining 1.2 mil in a conservative portfolio that will easily pay 60k a year without ever touching the principle. Live the rest of their life without ever working again. That's what I'd do, instead of living a stressful life with a job.
 
If somebody owns a paid off house worth 1.5 million, why wouldn't they sell it, buy a house in nova scotia or alberta for 300k, and invest the remaining 1.2 mil in a conservative portfolio that will easily pay 60k a year without ever touching the principle. Live the rest of their life without ever working again. That's what I'd do, instead of living a stressful life with a job.
There's a reason why it's so cheap in Nova Scotia.
 
If somebody owns a paid off house worth 1.5 million, why wouldn't they sell it, buy a house in nova scotia or alberta for 300k, and invest the remaining 1.2 mil in a conservative portfolio that will easily pay 60k a year without ever touching the principle. Live the rest of their life without ever working again. That's what I'd do, instead of living a stressful life with a job.
You have a conservative portfolio that kicks out five percent every year without touching the principal? It's certainly possible but I wouldn't rely on that. On most conservative portfolios, a 5% draw will be a slow slide down. Also, not everyone wants to live in NS or AB. In our case, we want to stay near parents as they are old and want them to have as much time with the grandkids (and us) as possible. 60K a year wouldn't work if we need to fly back a few times a year to visit them. Also, our house is 21 years from being paid off. I've calculated the number I want invested before I retire and sadly it is nowhere near 1.2.
 
You have a conservative portfolio that kicks out five percent every year without touching the principal? It's certainly possible but I wouldn't rely on that. On most conservative portfolios, a 5% draw will be a slow slide down. Also, not everyone wants to live in NS or AB. In our case, we want to stay near parents as they are old and want them to have as much time with the grandkids (and us) as possible. 60K a year wouldn't work if we need to fly back a few times a year to visit them. Also, our house is 21 years from being paid off. I've calculated the number I want invested before I retire and sadly it is nowhere near 1.2.
Vanguard's retirement income fund (VRIF) is designed to pay income without touching the principal. It pays abotu 4% but that doesn't change the gist of my point. As for the grandparents, bring them over too. Why would elderly retired people want to stay in the GTA.
 
Vanguard's retirement income fund (VRIF) is designed to pay income without touching the principal. It pays abotu 4% but that doesn't change the gist of my point. As for the grandparents, bring them over too. Why would elderly retired people want to stay in the GTA.
4% is more reasonable but, that just cut your income to 48K though. At a certain point, the number isn't big enough to live the way you want. If I am in Alberta, I want to go skiing/snowmobiling, etc and I don't think 48 would cut it for me. If you just want to live in the woods, you can get that in northern ontario for cheap and then it is a car ride home to see friends instead of a flight. Obviously the math works given enough money to invest but for most people, most of the time, I don't think that number is 1.2 (especially if you are <65 when you pull the trigger).
 
I could cash out today for 1.2 1.4 depending on which agent I believe. But all my long term friends are here and my social life , and I don’t know I want to start over . Both my kids live in AB , I’ll visit but I won’t live there. Ever I hope . NS ? Probably not , but a house on the ocean appeals . Short trip to the bahamas from NS in a boat so there is that .


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I could cash out today for 1.2 1.4 depending on which agent I believe. But all my long term friends are here and my social life , and I don’t know I want to start over . Both my kids live in AB , I’ll visit but I won’t live there. Ever I hope . NS ? Probably not , but a house on the ocean appeals . Short trip to the bahamas from NS in a boat so there is that .


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House on the ocean that makes you happy probably wouldn't be the theoretical 300K either so even less invested. Also, you'd be tempted to get at least one ocean capable vessel and that could easily put you underwater on the move.
 
Vanguard's retirement income fund (VRIF) is designed to pay income without touching the principal. It pays abotu 4% but that doesn't change the gist of my point. As for the grandparents, bring them over too. Why would elderly retired people want to stay in the GTA.
One could say the same for Elliot Lake Ontario. Cheap housing and good fishing.

I couldn't stand just sitting and doing nothing.

The other day I fixed a cheap angle grinder that just needed brushes but they were obsolete. I found some over sized ones cheap and spent some time making a jig to sand them down to size and now I have a spare grinder.

The point of the job wasn't to restore the grinder, it was to exercise my mind.

Nova Scotia has towns with more letters in the name than they have inhabitants. Where would I find the over-sized brushes to sand down, the steel to make the jig.

If you move to a cheap area you will likely be surrounded by others living there because of circumstances. They can drag you down. You might get tired of hearing your neighbours complaining about things you find trivial, having to pay $25 for a used tire.

The theme song for TV show "Cheers" has a line "Where everyone knows your name". They also know what time you got home last night, who dropped by during the day, where you went for dinner, what you ate and that you had on a new shirt. The checkout lady at the grocery store will give you a casserole recipe for the chicken you want to BBQ and get her nose out of joint if you don't use it.
 
There must be some reason so many Newfoundlanders and Scotians moved to Ontario . It wasn’t because they were tired of lobster .


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A lot of the guys I worked with in construction in both Ontario, and BC came in from the East Coast. No jobs out there, so they have no choice but to travel.

EDIT: Mind you, I also worked with a lot of guys from Portugal (Ontario) and Philippines (BC) that flew in on PR / Work Visas for the job, make a stupid amount of money, go back home, live like kings, and return for the next big job.
 
Saw this watch advertised on the Dakar website. Rebellion timepieces. Not knowing anything about watches, are these any good?

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I should hope they are... for $36K CDN each. :oops:

President of the company entered the Dakar. Had to retire early due to... well, this:

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Guess he's gotta sell more watches to prep for next year's Dakar...
I have never seen one in the wild. Looks like they have been around for 12/13 years, maybe a vanity project by someone with big dollars.... Some very interesting looking watches with custom/weird/cool movements. Others with what look like Swatch Group/ETA etc. movements jazzed up (which many mid level brands use....)--just listed as Swiss movement on their site.
 
I have never seen one in the wild. Looks like they have been around for 12/13 years, maybe a vanity project by someone with big dollars.... Some very interesting looking watches with custom/weird/cool movements. Others with what look like Swatch Group/ETA etc. movements jazzed up (which many mid level brands use....)--just listed as Swiss movement on their site.
I strongly dislike of the look of them. Imo they are a hot mess and barely legible so they failed watch test number one. If they have something interesting inside, maybe they are horologically interesting but I will never pay that much for something I don't like the look of.
 
Somebodies self indulgence in watch making ETA , Valjoux or whoever they are now and a dozen others crank out thousands of movements a yr. They are good but nothing “special” . You could aquire a lot of watches in the 30k range that are a lot more interesting.


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Anyone watch the CEO of rbc say he was very concerned about inflation and house prices? Kind of sad and funny that a profit driven institution is more concerned about public welfare more so than politicians.

Like they literally make money by giving out mortgages and hes like "uh....guys the house prices are going insane..maybe you should uh...do something about it?"
 

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