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Corsa Meccanica no longer a Piaggio (Aprilia/Moto Guzzi/Vespa) dealer (?)

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One thing that I've heard and read more than once is Aprilia spying on their customers social media to void their warranty. Something about their RSV4RR's / RSV4RF's etc indicating that they aren't meant for track....thus your warranty is void. Hard to believe, but it's in the Aprilia Forums. That would put me off buying one.

Also, they're made for midgets. They must have Max Biagi as their model for these bikes. Michael Neeves always comments on how small they are...beautiful bikes and lethal track machines but too small for a six foot guy. It's decisions like these that make you go hmmm about the Italian brands.
 
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One thing that I've heard and read more than once is Aprilia spying on their customers social media to void their warranty. Something about their RSV4RR's / RSV4RF's etc indicating that they aren't meant for track....thus your warranty is void. Hard to believe, but it's in the Aprilia Forums. That would put me off buying one.

Also, they're made for midgets. They must have Max Biagi as their model for these bikes. Michael Neeves always comments on how small they are...beautiful bikes and lethal track machines but too small for a six foot guy. It's decisions like these that make you go hmmm about the Italian brands.
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The Aprilia forums are full of paranoia about warranties being voided, but much like most other things that make people paranoid, when pressed, most information ends up being third hand at best. As with all claims, a lot comes down to the dealer making a case.

As for the RSV4 fitting smaller riders, it's definitely compact, though later models are bigger than the original V4's. I'm 6'1", and the Tuono fits me perfectly. As a bigger guy, some bikes make me look like a bear on a bicycle at the circus (Hawk GT, for example) but no issues with my Aprilia.
 
I’m a life long Italian bike owners ( intermittent German and Spanish and a very poor Swedish choice ) and I have no issue with a distributor or dealer denying a warranty claim on a “ not for track use” bike that has been tracked .


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crankcall said:
I’m a life long Italian bike owners ( intermittent German and Spanish and a very poor Swedish choice ) and I have no issue with a distributor or dealer denying a warranty claim on a “ not for track use” bike that has been tracked .


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As far as I recall, the Ducati "R" models (at least when I was looking at a 748R) did not include any warranty, as they were expected to be tracked/raced.
 
I also had an R , two small issues were warranty. In fairness it was also never tracked and mostly stock.
I would think maybe if I showed up at the dealer with all lighting missing , a few sponsor stickers and slicks the conversation may have been different, but I can’t answer to that


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Priller said:
The Aprilia forums are full of paranoia about warranties being voided, but much like most other things that make people paranoid, when pressed, most information ends up being third hand at best. As with all claims, a lot comes down to the dealer making a case.

As for the RSV4 fitting smaller riders, it's definitely compact, though later models are bigger than the original V4's. I'm 6'1", and the Tuono fits me perfectly. As a bigger guy, some bikes make me look like a bear on a bicycle at the circus (Hawk GT, for example) but no issues with my Aprilia.
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But it's fact...it's happened. Aprilia has spied on customers social media and has denied warranty on their race bike which isn't meant to be tracked? That makes no sense and is creepy as F.

The new Tuono is bigger? I'm not seeing this in spec sheets or reviews.
 
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But it's fact...it's happened. Aprilia has spied on customers social media and has denied warranty on their race bike which isn't meant to be tracked? That makes no sense and is creepy as F.

The new Tuono is bigger? I'm not seeing this in spec sheets or reviews.
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I'd be curious how anyone is certain they've been denied warranty coverage because someone at Piaggio visited their social media pages. If they actually did something like that, I can't imagine they'd admit it, so then it becomes conjecture.

My Tuono is 2018, so previous gen. It's a normal sized bike for normal sized riders, though the pegs are relatively high by naked standards (not by sportbike standards, though). As far as I know, the new one is similarly sized, though I think the standard version bars are now a bit higher and the Factory bars are a bit lower, and vise versa for the pegs. Previous gen models had identical ergos, with the difference being the Ohlins vs Sachs suspension and the passenger seat unit...
 
Priller said:
I'd be curious how anyone is certain they've been denied warranty coverage because someone at Piaggio visited their social media pages. If they actually did something like that, I can't imagine they'd admit it, so then it becomes conjecture.

My Tuono is 2018, so previous gen. It's a normal sized bike for normal sized riders, though the pegs are relatively high by naked standards (not by sportbike standards, though). As far as I know, the new one is similarly sized, though I think the standard version bars are now a bit higher and the Factory bars are a bit lower, and vise versa for the pegs. Previous gen models had identical ergos, with the difference being the Ohlins vs Sachs suspension and the passenger seat unit...
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The thread is on the RSV4 Forums. The engine blew on the guy's bike. He was informed that Aprilia had seen his bike at a certain track on his social media and they denied him warranty as they have it written into the fine print that the bike (a designed track weapon) is not for track use. He posted pics of the correspondence. Other's chimed in that they had experienced the same issue.

I actually talked with a senior exec at Piaggio over a warranty issue and he eluded to the fact that the company is terribly understaffed, with the wrong staff, and having a hard time establishing a dealer network. He ended up giving me a years free warranty for the nightmare of having to deal with them. And make no mistake, it is a nightmare.

This was two years ago...and all Ontario dealers have now kicked them out.

Never again. Aprilia is a sketchy company.

I've never heard a tale of a Japanese company spying on its customers social media. I don't think they care what you do with the bike once you've bought it as long as you haven't modded it in warranty, warranty is covered. Chances are good to great you'll never need the warranty on a Japanese bike. They may not be as exclusive, but they work.

I've sat on all the Tuonos...I'm 6'1 207 lbs and I felt like the bike was way too small for me. Michael Neeves of MCN makes the same comment over and over.

It's bizarre that Aprilia recognizes the size of an average size man in their Dorsoduro lineup. It's a very tall seated bike. Why didn't they follow suit with the Tuonos? Who knows...it's Aprilia. If you ever get the chance to sit on a Dorsoduro, do so, the bike is properly sized. Just half the power of your bike...which totally sucks...and once again, you have to ask why? It's Aprilia. Imagine the Dorsoduro with the HP of the Tuono!
 
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this is the thread and bike in question:

Warranty Denied- 14' RSV4 Factory, 2900mi, Spun Rod Bearing, 1yr Left on Warranty

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Turns out manufacturers dont warranty race bikes.
He says he tracked it, and sounds like there was some confusion with aprilia thinking he was racing it.

Moral of the story? Dont post pics of yourself on social media.
(and avoid K&N filters?)
 
bigpoppa said:
Moral of the story? Dont post pics of yourself on social media.
(and avoid K&N filters?)
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Well, in this case any aftermarket filters. K&N got a bad rep with a batch of bad filters, but that was long ago and it was more than likely caused by people (over)tightening it using a wrench on the nut that's actually only meant to be used for removal and safety wiring.
 
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Well, in this case any aftermarket filters. K&N got a bad rep with a batch of bad filters, but that was long ago and it was more than likely caused by people (over)tightening it using a wrench on the nut that's actually only meant to be used for removal and safety wiring.
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As I recall it was an actual flaw in the mfg. Process, this stuff came out of Thailand.
 
If that's the thread, there isn't any actual info about who dug up the pictures, and it's as likely the dealer as Piaggio. There is a post further down from someone who says the exhaust was a slip-on in the photos but stock when brought in for service (no race flash would definitely be a problem there on an RSV4), the oil filter was both K&N and for the wrong bike, and the clutch plates were burnt from hard launches (he admits to a run or two at the drag strip). Oh, and the engine didn't 'blow up', it was a spun bearing.

All in all, a single case from six years ago is a curiously small sample size. Googling any manufacturer plus "warranty claim denied" will yield hits.

As for complaining about the size of the Tuono, using Michael Neeves as an example seems a particularly odd choice considering he and MCN have ranked the Aprilia as the best super naked for a number of years in a row and he calls it his favourite fast street bike in any class. Motorcycle.com might be a better choice for criticism, as grumpy old John Burns has been less flattering. Of course it's smaller than a Dorsoduro: it's based on the RSV4, a full-on superbike. The Dorsoduro was a big, supermoto-ish thing...
 
Priller said:
If that's the thread, there isn't any actual info about who dug up the pictures, and it's as likely the dealer as Piaggio. There is a post further down from someone who says the exhaust was a slip-on in the photos but stock when brought in for service (no race flash would definitely be a problem there on an RSV4), the oil filter was both K&N and for the wrong bike, and the clutch plates were burnt from hard launches (he admits to a run or two at the drag strip). Oh, and the engine didn't 'blow up', it was a spun bearing.

All in all, a single case from six years ago is a curiously small sample size. Googling any manufacturer plus "warranty claim denied" will yield hits.

As for complaining about the size of the Tuono, using Michael Neeves as an example seems a particularly odd choice considering he and MCN have ranked the Aprilia as the best super naked for a number of years in a row and he calls it his favourite fast street bike in any class. Motorcycle.com might be a better choice for criticism, as grumpy old John Burns has been less flattering. Of course it's smaller than a Dorsoduro: it's based on the RSV4, a full-on superbike. The Dorsoduro was a big, supermoto-ish thing...
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The Dorsoduro is a naked. "Maxi moto" Aprilia calls it...it is not even remotely a supermoto. Put the RSV4 engine in it and Aprilia would have another winner as it's very underpowered.

But it's tall.

Aprilia made a tall bike is my point.

Aprilia CAN make a tall bike.

They're engineers took size into consideration and made a tall canyon carver in the Dorsoduro. It's lethal in the twisties, yet so underpowered.

So Max Biagi *isn't* their model for sizing a bike.

When you have entire threads of 6' + guys figuring out what to change (rearsets, bars) to fit on a bike something has gone wrong in the engineering of the bike.

Tuono for Tall Guys?

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I understand the want for this bike...it's thrilling and one of a kind...but I passed on it as it was just too small.

Bikes are getting smaller and more skeletal in general...the last iteration of the GSX-R 1000 is smaller
So is the new S1000RR...the CBR1000RRRRRR all of them. So you have taller guys going backwards in time to find a bike that they don't look like they're molesting.
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