Ontario followed the same day just before st Paddy's all restaurants are closed except for take out.
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Province is setting up lots of beds for Covid patients outside of typical hospitals. McMaster childrens hospital has vacated portions of the building to be used for adult Covid patients, school gyms, wings of nursing homes, etc. They are taking it seriously and getting ready for the rush.
bigpoppa
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Lets hope none of this emergency overflow needs to be used.
But then of course there will be the people ranting about "See, it was all a total sham - you all overreacted, fools".
Cruise ships have nothing better to do right now
Trials
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Thats good because I think there are only 2 hospital ships in existence in this hemisphere and they belong to the US military.Cruise ships have nothing better to do right now
Toronto police need to start busting some knees.
'You just have to come and get your hands on it:' New releases prompt customers to line up outside EB Games
The release of two popular video games has prompted gamers from across the city to press pause on some of the social distancing measures recommended by health experts in the wake of the COVID-19 outbreak.www.cp24.com
A long lineup has formed outside EB Games on Yonge Street in Toronto’s downtown core as people wait to get their hands on “Animal Crossing: New Horizons” and 'Doom.'
“I’m actually like living with my grandparents right now so I have to be a little bit extra careful. I have hand sanitizer in my backpack. Like I’m super careful about stuff,” one woman in the lineup told CP24 on Friday.
“But I don’t know, something about this game, you just have to come and get your hands on it.”
So the real horror of this shouldn't hit for one to two months. Time to accept social distancing as the new norm for the forseeable future.
Some clips from article below. The actual article has a lot of interesting information.
www.cp24.com
Researchers from the University of Toronto, University Health Network and Sunnybrook Hospital have released a model showing Ontario could run short of machines and space to ventilate very sick patients in just over five weeks.
A more optimistic model predicts that if the province manages to increase capacity for COVID-19 patients by adding more than 2,000 beds and 600 ventilators, the system could hold up for 60 days, but there "may still be a critical shortage of ventilators."
"Because people who have this disease stay in the ICU a long time and lock up a ventilator bed, that means it doesn't take a very big epidemic to completely log jam our health care system as it stands," he said.
Some clips from article below. The actual article has a lot of interesting information.
Dire scenario for intensive care even if COVID-19 infection rate drops: study
A study by Toronto epidemiologists suggests that Canada's largest province could run out of intensive care beds and ventilators by late April, even assuming a sharp drop in the current infection rate.
www.cp24.com
Researchers from the University of Toronto, University Health Network and Sunnybrook Hospital have released a model showing Ontario could run short of machines and space to ventilate very sick patients in just over five weeks.
A more optimistic model predicts that if the province manages to increase capacity for COVID-19 patients by adding more than 2,000 beds and 600 ventilators, the system could hold up for 60 days, but there "may still be a critical shortage of ventilators."
"Because people who have this disease stay in the ICU a long time and lock up a ventilator bed, that means it doesn't take a very big epidemic to completely log jam our health care system as it stands," he said.
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So I found that most likely the next semester ( 4 months of school) will be completely online with no lab access... And the school still expects us to pay in class fees, Oh boy...
I don’t think we are going to see relief until August or September. And I still see students hanging out, families taking walks , tenants chatting etc... Take it seriously so testing can catch up and Canada can flatten the e^x function. Please
<— my life is absolutely upside down... No need to live close to school but if I leave I lose my low apartment rent, coop offers being rescinded, summer employment being halted, very hard to focus and “exams” are in April (most of us can’t focus) and being stuck in a tiny apartment for 10+ days alone doesn’t help... And I can’t risk going to my parent’s home (nice and huge) due to their age. Ahhhh, this is crazy.
I don’t know if I could survive online school and 4 months in a apartment. ??? Turn insane????
But that is probably what will happen :|
Literally in ~2 weeks, everything just HALTED. My calendar is EMPTY now except for school deliverables
Is this what people in jail go through?.?
Edit: Reducing going outside right now because the slum landlord barely cleans the door handles etc. And I don’t have enough supplies to clean the apartment building... I dug into my savings and bought a second air purifier so all three are working 24/7, dehumidifier running 24/7, clothes get washed ASAP if I go outside, I installed a shower current to protect air from the main door coming into the apartment and jammed air filters inside all the windows. Recently, I bought enough food and supplies to last me a year (I hope or I starve and get skinny ). Preparing for the worst case scenario of a tenant that lives here getting it.
How is everyone else doing??
I don’t think we are going to see relief until August or September. And I still see students hanging out, families taking walks , tenants chatting etc... Take it seriously so testing can catch up and Canada can flatten the e^x function. Please
<— my life is absolutely upside down... No need to live close to school but if I leave I lose my low apartment rent, coop offers being rescinded, summer employment being halted, very hard to focus and “exams” are in April (most of us can’t focus) and being stuck in a tiny apartment for 10+ days alone doesn’t help... And I can’t risk going to my parent’s home (nice and huge) due to their age. Ahhhh, this is crazy.
I don’t know if I could survive online school and 4 months in a apartment. ??? Turn insane????
But that is probably what will happen :|
Literally in ~2 weeks, everything just HALTED. My calendar is EMPTY now except for school deliverables
Is this what people in jail go through?.?
Edit: Reducing going outside right now because the slum landlord barely cleans the door handles etc. And I don’t have enough supplies to clean the apartment building... I dug into my savings and bought a second air purifier so all three are working 24/7, dehumidifier running 24/7, clothes get washed ASAP if I go outside, I installed a shower current to protect air from the main door coming into the apartment and jammed air filters inside all the windows. Recently, I bought enough food and supplies to last me a year (I hope or I starve and get skinny ). Preparing for the worst case scenario of a tenant that lives here getting it.
How is everyone else doing??
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Cruise ships were used during the Falklands war as troop carriers. lots of rooms on a cruise ship.
Interestingly most ocean cruise ships seem to be 745' long and the St Lawrence Seaway maxes out at 740'. Beam on cruise ships is about 20' too wide though. No real way to get the ocean liners to Ontario (as expected).
I have no words.
Quebec City police have arrested a woman, who has tested positive for the coronavirus, for being out in the city's Limoilou neighbourhood despite being under a quarantine order.
The woman, who is potentially contagious, was arrested at around 2 p.m. ET Friday while out for a stroll,
Quebec City police have arrested a woman, who has tested positive for the coronavirus, for being out in the city's Limoilou neighbourhood despite being under a quarantine order.
The woman, who is potentially contagious, was arrested at around 2 p.m. ET Friday while out for a stroll,
So I found that most likely the next semester ( 4 months of school) will be completely online with no lab access... And the school still expects us to pay in class fees, Oh boy...
I don’t think we are going to see relief until August or September. And I still see students hanging out, families taking walks , tenants chatting etc... Take it seriously so testing can catch up and Canada can flatten the e^x function. Please
<— my life is absolutely upside down... No need to live close to school but if I leave I lose my low apartment rent, coop offers being rescinded, summer employment being halted, very hard to focus and “exams” are in April (most of us can’t focus) and being stuck in a tiny apartment for 10+ days alone doesn’t help... And I can’t risk going to my parent’s home (nice and huge) due to their age. Ahhhh, this is crazy.
I don’t know if I could survive online school and 4 months in a apartment. ??? Turn insane????
But that is probably what will happen :|
Literally in ~2 weeks, everything just HALTED. My calendar is EMPTY now except for school deliverables
Is this what people in jail go through?.?
Edit: Reducing going outside right now because the slum landlord barely cleans the door handles etc. And I don’t have enough supplies to clean the apartment building... I dug into my savings and bought a second air purifier so all three are working 24/7, dehumidifier running 24/7, clothes get washed ASAP if I go outside, I installed a shower current to protect air from the main door coming into the apartment and jammed air filters inside all the windows. Recently, I bought enough food and supplies to last me a year (I hope or I starve and get skinny ). Preparing for the worst case scenario of a tenant that lives here getting it.
How is everyone else doing??
Hey George,
First off, thank you for taking self-isolation seriously. Too many people are either too immature or too ignorant to see the consequences of their actions or believe that it would ever impact them or their loved ones in any way.
Secondly, at your age, I wouldn't worry about the disease killing you - if that's a concern to you. It's more about slowing down the spread to the more vulnerable in our population. So senior citizens and people with pre-existing conditions don't clog up our healthcare system all at once and make resources unavailable for other accidents and emergencies.
Thirdly, keep posting on here. This thread and social media are great resources for venting out frustrations. There's a lot of feelings of powerlessness out there. You can read it between the lines of the postings - unemployment, loneliness, uncertainty about the future...
You're not alone. We're all feeling it. We're all in it together.
Trials
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The problem isn't somewhere to lay down when you get sick, problem is you need something to force you to keep breathing even if your brain says ok I've had enough of this, I will just rest now. Plus you need care givers to make sure you do not die of dehydration and to keep everything else in your body functioning.
Immunity is a defence system not a survivor trophy. Great! you did not succumb to pneumonia and your body recovers, that means your immune system has won a battle, it does not mean the nasty left the body never able to return again. We still don't even know if or how it infects other parts of the body, you need pneumonia survivors to be alive long enough to discover that! Compromised lungs is usually enough to kill but if it can survive in a blood stream, additional illness may just take longer to manifest, or you could simply become health compromised at a later date and lose the next battle to the bugs still inside you. That's how TB works, I can't see why this one would be any different. You know once you test positive for TB you test positive for TB forever.
Apologies for such a negative post, I tried but couldn't think of anything positive to add
other then it looks like it might be a nice day outside to go riding!
Immunity is a defence system not a survivor trophy. Great! you did not succumb to pneumonia and your body recovers, that means your immune system has won a battle, it does not mean the nasty left the body never able to return again. We still don't even know if or how it infects other parts of the body, you need pneumonia survivors to be alive long enough to discover that! Compromised lungs is usually enough to kill but if it can survive in a blood stream, additional illness may just take longer to manifest, or you could simply become health compromised at a later date and lose the next battle to the bugs still inside you. That's how TB works, I can't see why this one would be any different. You know once you test positive for TB you test positive for TB forever.
Apologies for such a negative post, I tried but couldn't think of anything positive to add
other then it looks like it might be a nice day outside to go riding!
The problem isn't somewhere to lay down when you get sick, problem is you need something to force you to keep breathing even if your brain says ok I've had enough of this, I will just rest now. Plus you need care givers to make sure you do not die of dehydration and to keep everything else in your body functioning.
Immunity is a defence system not a survivor trophy. Great! you did not succumb to pneumonia and your body recovers, that means your immune system has won a battle, it does not mean the nasty left the body never able to return again. We still don't even know if or how it infects other parts of the body, you need pneumonia survivors to be alive long enough to discover that! Compromised lungs is usually enough to kill but if it can survive in a blood stream, additional illness may just take longer to manifest, or you could simply become health compromised at a later date and lose the next battle to the bugs still inside you. That's how TB works, I can't see why this one would be any different. You know once you test positive for TB you test positive for TB forever.
Apologies for such a negative post, I tried but couldn't think of anything positive to add
other then it looks like it might be a nice day outside to go riding!
Ride now. In a week or two there might be no health care for you in the event of a mishap. I needed oxygen.
The US total-cases graph is somewhat affected by their almost complete lack of testing up until the last few days. Now that they're starting to be able to test in larger numbers, they're discovering the cases that wouldn't have been discovered during their period of denial. In Canada we were somewhat ahead on testing per-capita, but still not enough.
Going by deaths rather than known cases removes that factor although now, statistically, you are dealing with smaller numbers. Correcting per-capita allows an adjustment for the size of the country.
Based on worldometers as of 20th March, USA had 256 deaths. Correcting for population (Italy about 1/5th) Italy had 52 deaths on 2nd March. So, per-capita, the USA is about 18 days behind. Italy imposed a complete country-wide lockdown on 9th March, which is now considered to be too late. Italy had started locking areas down on 22nd February; the USA has just started doing this. If it follows Italy's timeline then the USA complete lockdown can be expected a week from now (and will be too late - and I have my doubts that they will actually do it - and I have my doubts that the gun-totin' don't-infringe-my-rights crowd would actually go along with it. That attitude may prove to be their undoing.).
The alarm bells are being rung.
Italy has slowed down the slope of the exponential growth ... number of cases is still growing but at a smaller exponential factor. Both Italy and USA had around 6000 new cases yesterday but Italy started the day with a much bigger number. It's the first sign of hope.
Going by deaths rather than known cases removes that factor although now, statistically, you are dealing with smaller numbers. Correcting per-capita allows an adjustment for the size of the country.
Based on worldometers as of 20th March, USA had 256 deaths. Correcting for population (Italy about 1/5th) Italy had 52 deaths on 2nd March. So, per-capita, the USA is about 18 days behind. Italy imposed a complete country-wide lockdown on 9th March, which is now considered to be too late. Italy had started locking areas down on 22nd February; the USA has just started doing this. If it follows Italy's timeline then the USA complete lockdown can be expected a week from now (and will be too late - and I have my doubts that they will actually do it - and I have my doubts that the gun-totin' don't-infringe-my-rights crowd would actually go along with it. That attitude may prove to be their undoing.).
The alarm bells are being rung.
Italy has slowed down the slope of the exponential growth ... number of cases is still growing but at a smaller exponential factor. Both Italy and USA had around 6000 new cases yesterday but Italy started the day with a much bigger number. It's the first sign of hope.
So I found that most likely the next semester ( 4 months of school) will be completely online with no lab access... And the school still expects us to pay in class fees, Oh boy...
I don’t think we are going to see relief until August or September. And I still see students hanging out, families taking walks , tenants chatting etc... Take it seriously so testing can catch up and Canada can flatten the e^x function. Please
<— my life is absolutely upside down... No need to live close to school but if I leave I lose my low apartment rent, coop offers being rescinded, summer employment being halted, very hard to focus and “exams” are in April (most of us can’t focus) and being stuck in a tiny apartment for 10+ days alone doesn’t help... And I can’t risk going to my parent’s home (nice and huge) due to their age. Ahhhh, this is crazy.
I don’t know if I could survive online school and 4 months in a apartment. ??? Turn insane????
But that is probably what will happen :|
Literally in ~2 weeks, everything just HALTED. My calendar is EMPTY now except for school deliverables
Is this what people in jail go through?.?
Edit: Reducing going outside right now because the slum landlord barely cleans the door handles etc. And I don’t have enough supplies to clean the apartment building... I dug into my savings and bought a second air purifier so all three are working 24/7, dehumidifier running 24/7, clothes get washed ASAP if I go outside, I installed a shower current to protect air from the main door coming into the apartment and jammed air filters inside all the windows. Recently, I bought enough food and supplies to last me a year (I hope or I starve and get skinny ). Preparing for the worst case scenario of a tenant that lives here getting it.
How is everyone else doing??
I really appreciate your post. Like some others I was only seeing things from my own perspective, in a house, retired, somewhat anti social to start with.
Our game plan is to cocoon, go out for supplies as rarely as possible, minimal visitors etc.
I'm glad I'm not in a condo, especially a dumpy one. Iffy parking garage, previously touched door handles everywhere, Elevators with other people (Physically impossible to distance 6 feet). I was thinking about those clear plastic bags they used to have for leaf collection. A condom for your whole body.
I enjoy my shop, something that couldn't happen in a condo. I make all kinds of neat things that no one wants.
Does Uber want to run the gauntlet of dirty handles to deliver my food?
Do I want food delivered by someone who touches dirty handles?
Lower a basket on a rope from the balcony to accept deliveries?
There is hypocrisy everywhere. My wife has always been a bit of a germaphobe but she uses a dish rag to wipe the counter and she doesn't like the smell of bleach.
Our daughter who is very knowledgeable on the situation has us sitting her pup until tomorrow when we have to deliver the fur ball back to Hamilton. Social interaction.
George, all I can say is hang in there. Nothing good happens fast in this world but we survive. Twenty years ago we were laughing at the Y2K boogie man. We weren't laughing at the 911 attacks the next year. But we survived in a new normal.
BTW Where are you? What are you studying?
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