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Good. That both gives people a memory of what it feels like to be an ass and saves costco money. Can you imagine the cost to deal with returns of truckloads of that stuff?They are denying returns on all the items that there was a run on.
So happy to see this. Went to Walmart this morning. Fairly calm. No major issues. Limit of 1 pack of TP, wipes, water, and paper towel.They are denying returns on all the items that there was a run on.
lots of fruits and veggies. Took a few stores but got all the kids’ medicines as well. 4 stores in a few hours and I got all that was needed.
We don't need Abbot and Costello with stuff like that.
It will. It’s always going to be here now from this point forward just like all the others. Hopefully there will be herd immunity eventually and we will deal with this infection just like we deal with yearly flu epidemics. What you eventually want, assuming you’re immune after contracting COVID-19 and surviving it (and this isn’t certain yet) is to contract the virus in a controlled manner (hence flattening the curve) OR preferably taking a vaccine that should eventually be developed.
Chloroquine (an anti-malarial drug) has been shown to inhibit the virus in-vitro but that is a long long way from being a potential drug. Promising though as it’s cheap and can easily be made.
The national guard thing was an error. They are being called in to set up triage centres and field hospitals.
If I had a national guard, I would be using them to setup strategically placed triage centres and field hospitals too. That provides immediate benefits. The secret armoury in the tractor trailers out back provides distrubuted rapid response if stupidity happens.
I'm not a doctor but I know about mathematics.
If this is like every other virus, someone who has caught it and recovered becomes immune to it (may not be forever, but generally it's for a long time).
Right now there's a problem because only a tiny percentage of the population is immune to it ... those who have had it and recovered. This leads to an exponential growth situation. Even if only a small percentage of people require hospitalisation (evidently those with co-morbidities), this leads to the health care system being overwhelmed (see: Italy) and then the mortality rate rises because not everyone can get treatment.
As more and more people get infected and recover - many without even knowing it, apparently - the number of people immune to it starts becoming significant and increasing ... then the rate of infection drops off. This leads to the bell-curve that has been shown many times on the internet.
After the main pandemic blows over, you will be left with a situation where R0 < 1. Right now R0 is 2.0 to 2.5. The current scenario where one person infects 2.0 - 2.5 others no longer exists because (let's say) half or more of those people will be immune to it. Then with R0 < 1 the virus can no longer propagate, the number of people infected can only drop off. There may still be a few cases here and there, e.g. among populations that weren't exposed to it in the initial outbreak.
How long will this take ... depending on your viewpoint, "too long", or "less than you would think". USA had 13,000 reported known cases yesterday and it's going up exponentially by a factor of 10 every week. Next week it's 130,000, week after it's 1.3 million, then 13 million, then 130 million - when it's up in that range it has to be in the diminishing part of the bell curve. But that's assuming we know about all the actual cases. Everyone knows that there are far more infected people out there than the known numbers.
The problem here is that if 20% of those known cases require hospitalisation, the US healthcare system is going to officially be overwhelmed possibly starting a week from now and certainly 2 weeks from now if we don't "flatten the curve".
The 130,000 people who will be in the reported-case column as of next week, it's too late. They're already infected, they just don't know it yet. The 1.3 million who will be in the reported-case column the week after, are the people who need to practice social distancing NOW.
Now is the time.
Keep in mind.... while we all need to take this very seriously...
Most European countries that have been hit really hard (percentage of deaths) have aging populations (drastically inverted population pyramids) that also have a lot of people that still smoke (specially in that older population). There is also much more physical contact culturally than here (cheek kissing etc.), and finally I don't think they took it as serious in the early stages (but this could be debated...).
Still lots of idiots here though...
My bigger concern is the economic fall-out.
Most European countries that have been hit really hard (percentage of deaths) have aging populations (drastically inverted population pyramids) that also have a lot of people that still smoke (specially in that older population). There is also much more physical contact culturally than here (cheek kissing etc.), and finally I don't think they took it as serious in the early stages (but this could be debated...).
Still lots of idiots here though...
My bigger concern is the economic fall-out.
Toronto police need to start busting some knees.
www.cp24.com
A long lineup has formed outside EB Games on Yonge Street in Toronto’s downtown core as people wait to get their hands on “Animal Crossing: New Horizons” and 'Doom.'
“I’m actually like living with my grandparents right now so I have to be a little bit extra careful. I have hand sanitizer in my backpack. Like I’m super careful about stuff,” one woman in the lineup told CP24 on Friday.
“But I don’t know, something about this game, you just have to come and get your hands on it.”
'You just have to come and get your hands on it:' New releases prompt customers to line up outside EB Games
The release of two popular video games has prompted gamers from across the city to press pause on some of the social distancing measures recommended by health experts in the wake of the COVID-19 outbreak.
www.cp24.com
A long lineup has formed outside EB Games on Yonge Street in Toronto’s downtown core as people wait to get their hands on “Animal Crossing: New Horizons” and 'Doom.'
“I’m actually like living with my grandparents right now so I have to be a little bit extra careful. I have hand sanitizer in my backpack. Like I’m super careful about stuff,” one woman in the lineup told CP24 on Friday.
“But I don’t know, something about this game, you just have to come and get your hands on it.”
Tough decision to know whether to share this widely or not. People need to see the reality but also not panic.
What does panic look like though? That's always an interesting question as it is irrational. You would think seeing scary things would end up with your family locked in your house and screw the outside world (actually a great societal outcome in most cases). If you go full crazy and start running through the streets, nothing good happens. I would hope most people would become shutins.
Toronto police need to start busting some knees.
'You just have to come and get your hands on it:' New releases prompt customers to line up outside EB Games
The release of two popular video games has prompted gamers from across the city to press pause on some of the social distancing measures recommended by health experts in the wake of the COVID-19 outbreak.
A long lineup has formed outside EB Games on Yonge Street in Toronto’s downtown core as people wait to get their hands on “Animal Crossing: New Horizons” and 'Doom.'
“I’m actually like living with my grandparents right now so I have to be a little bit extra careful. I have hand sanitizer in my backpack. Like I’m super careful about stuff,” one woman in the lineup told CP24 on Friday.
“But I don’t know, something about this game, you just have to come and get your hands on it.”
****ing losers.
J_F
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“I’m actually like living with my grandparents right now so I have to be a little bit extra careful.
I have hand sanitizer in my backpack. Like I’m super careful about stuff,”
a woman lining up for 'Animal Crossing' told CP24 on Friday.
this selfish, illiterate, unemployable, irresponsible twat should be force-quarantined
I have hand sanitizer in my backpack. Like I’m super careful about stuff,”
a woman lining up for 'Animal Crossing' told CP24 on Friday.
this selfish, illiterate, unemployable, irresponsible twat should be force-quarantined
bigpoppa
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Moron travels during outbreak, does everything they say not to do, then acts surprised when he gets corona.
Hes young so doesnt die, but its not a pleasant experience for those with symptoms
sburns
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Ugh haven't they heard of Digital Downloads... of course not these are the dumb we are dealing with. This recovery is going to take longer then expected...
Than expected by who? This april 5th target date will quite possibly be before we even peak. I am leaning towards at least june before the majority of restrictions are lifted.
sburns
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Hey if you thought GameStop was bad how about this:
arstechnica.com
Three New Hampshire plaintiffs sue to block coronavirus measures
New Hampshire has 44 confirmed cases of COVID-19.
arstechnica.com
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