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Posted earlier, wife had a potential exposure at work and had to be tested, she had a letter from Peel Public Health....

She booked an appointment at St. Joseph's (Queensway). Appointment was at 4:30pm on Friday. I dropped her off at around 4:20 and parked, very small line outside, she was out at 4:39. Got the results this morning, negative.
Does she go back in a week for a second test to confirm?
It's been said that if you get tested too early after exposure, it doesn't show up.
 
Does she go back in a week for a second test to confirm?
It's been said that if you get tested too early after exposure, it doesn't show up.
I had incidental contact with a confirmed case. I got tested five full days after I last saw the person and the nurse did not mention any need for retest.
 
I think Ford could do better with allowing small business with the lockdown in Toronto. All that traffic, literally and in store is just heading out of TO to surrounding areas, I've been going to Pickering myself and the streets/stores are much busier then normal. So some suffer while the rest prosper. I understand trying to squash this spread is the top priority but people are suffering. And apparently insurance costs are trippling or out of control, which is also something Ford should look into, that seems outrageous.

I heard on the radio a bunch of business are banning together to send Ford a request to open etc. This is the busiest time of the year for retailers and a bunch are locked out.
Ford stands up for some little guys.

Looks like Ford stepped in ancd called off the LCBO's plan to use Skip the Dishes for booze service. Doug Ford asked the LCBO to pause the partnership as a show of support for restaurants - and they did.

 
Ford stands up for some little guys.

Looks like Ford stepped in ancd called off the LCBO's plan to use Skip the Dishes for booze service. Doug Ford asked the LCBO to pause the partnership as a show of support for restaurants - and they did.


There is no way I want to see US type openings but the long term future has some concerns. In particular the demise of the little stores that have unique products.

It's bad enough that the little guys get driven out by big bucks stores and indifference but to squash them this way is cruel.

Big money may even buy out some of the starving little guys but then they will gut the business. Eventually everything will be homogenized.

We need to level the playing field. You can walk in and buy paint at Home Depot but not at a paint store.

Could shoe store open if they sold bread and milk? How about a fruit cart at a jewelry store?
 
We've had 4 confirmed cases in our school...all non related....2 classes had to stay home and go online for 14 days...teachers were told they didn't have to get tested, because we're considered low risk, even though we're in the same room for 6.5 hours a day with the children...teachers still came to work to teach...luckily, none in my class so far...I'm not seeing any of my family members over Christmas break, as I'm worried about being exposed to asymptomatic kids and being a carrier...all my siblings are 70 years old and older...sigh...
 
Could shoe store open if they sold bread and milk? How about a fruit cart at a jewelry store?
Lots of stores have gone that route. Grab a case of facemasks from costco and put a price on them and bam, you are an essential service. Gyms were using this to be open. The line was dumb. They had a long time to think through possibilities and imo picked a really dumb option.
 
Does she go back in a week for a second test to confirm?
It's been said that if you get tested too early after exposure, it doesn't show up.
Her work made her wait to get tested, basically one week from when she was notified for this reason. Actual exposure was a good two weeks prior to when she was tested. Even though she has a negative test it is still one more week before she is permitted back.
 
Makes sense, the test can't show a positive until you are spewing contagion out of the lungs and into your sinuses ?
 
I cant agree with a lot if the closures, malls shortening hours to drive more people into a shorter window? Thats wierd
I can't buy a sport coat from Freds menswear, but Walmart is open.
Need bicycle parts ? for anything beyond a CTC wizzbang, your forced online, or just get some crap from CTC

A lot of it puzzles me, but I'm not a scientist

Ford asking skipthedishes to pause on LCBO is a smart and decent move. At least somebody in Dougs office understands retail is bad enough, without competing with your own provincial business for customers.
 
-70 C storage for vaccines?
Da fq?

Is that what is takes to keep this virus in stasis?


Edit: Looks like this vaccine isnt the virus itself, but something called mRNA which has to enter your cells and trigger the generation of certain proteins: Pfizer’s COVID Vaccine Has to Be Stored at -80°C. There’s Already a Run on Freezers.
 
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-70 C storage for vaccines?
Da fq?

Is that what is takes to keep this virus in stasis?


Edit: Looks like this vaccine isnt the virus itself, but something called mRNA which has to enter your cells and trigger the generation of certain proteins: Pfizer’s COVID Vaccine Has to Be Stored at -80°C. There’s Already a Run on Freezers.

Yep..these are expensive and specialized equipment too. Not off the shelf items. We have tons at the university and when they break they are expensive to replace and fix. For storing a valuable vaccine they need to have failsafes and also be reliable too. These aren’t LG specials from The Brick.
 
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Yep..these are expensive and specialized equipment too. Not off the shelf items. We have tons at the university and when they break they are expensive to replace and fix. For storing a valuable virus they need to have failsafes and also be reliable too. These aren’t LG specials from The Brick.
If I put a little freezer inside a bigger freezer inside a bigger freezer doesn't that work? 3 LG freezers sounds cheaper.

I am kidding, that very likely won't work as the inside freezers would need a different refrigerant.

On a more serious note, do they have to be stored at -80 or is that just the cannot exceed temperature? Instead of buying billions of dollars of freezers to be used once and then abandoned, if the temp is shall not exceed, I think it makes a lot more sense to use dry ice (probably not cold enough) or N2 to keep the stuff cold.
 
I was sure I read that long term storage for the vaccine needs the extreme temps, but can be a normal -5C or something more reasonable for the last few days before injection.
 
All this time I was under the impression that a vaccine basically contained a small amount of live or dead microbes that is injected into you so that your body has time to recognize it and develop antibodies accordingly.

I never knew the concept of genetically engineering a vaccine was even a thing until now.

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Makes me wonder how different each vaccine from every different pharmaceutical manufacturer will be.

 
All this time I was under the impression that a vaccine basically contained a small amount of live or dead microbes that is injected into you so that your body has time to recognize it and develop antibodies accordingly.

I never knew the concept of genetically engineering a vaccine was even a thing until now.

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Makes me wonder how different each vaccine from every different pharmaceutical manufacturer will be.

Haha, that brings up a great point. If they can embed in an Adenovirus, the free-dumb anti maskers will spread the vaccine at about the same rate as covid. Do they start wearing masks to protect themselves from the vaccine? Either way it's a win.
 
-80 is the temperature at which you can store things in a dry ice mixture for a short period so that’s likely why it’s been chosen.
You'd think, but the feds and the province keep harping on the need for these expensive freezers. Hell, douggie even said the freezers are why LTC may not get the initial batch. F-that, if we need freezers, why are they not being installed in trailers? Fixed locations make a lot less sense than mobile vaccination clinics. If dry ice works, wtf are we buying freezers? From receive to distribution should not take long. We don't need to store this stuff for years, we should be looking at days or weeks before the stock is depleted.
 
You'd think, but the feds and the province keep harping on the need for these expensive freezers. Hell, douggie even said the freezers are why LTC may not get the initial batch. F-that, if we need freezers, why are they not being installed in trailers? Fixed locations make a lot less sense than mobile vaccination clinics. If dry ice works, wtf are we buying freezers? From receive to distribution should not take long. We don't need to store this stuff for years, we should be looking at days or weeks before the stock is depleted.

Because the dry ice is only good for about a day as you transport from one local location to another. You need the freezers for overnight etc. If you get perishable goods (some foodstuff) shipped to you they may have been packed in dry ice but when you open that box it is cool but not -80 cool.
 
We used to do a lot of reactions in a dry-ice/acetone bath. That maintains a temperature of -78C for quite a while (4-5 h) but you need to add components over a certain time period and keep the mixture in a thermos type container too.
 
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