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FullMotoJacket said:
MERS and SARS are Covid viruses. You don't seem to grasp the reason why viruses mutate.
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Umm, the mutations are random. The virus doesn't change itself because you've become immune to it. Also, immunity to a strain of a disease can help protect you from a slightly different strain of the same disease.

www.sciencedaily.com

Antibodies from earlier exposures affect response to new flu strains

Research highlights role of immunological imprinting -- or how the immune system fights the flu after previous exposure to the virus via infections or vaccinations -- in the elicitation of new antibodies.
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jc100 said:
This is why the virus keeps infecting....lack of education.
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I don't even bother responding on the forums that are more US-centric.

Now that the borders are closed, the level of ignorance and callousness ("let the old people die") doesn't affect me at all. But on a Canadian forum, yeah, I'll take the time because these are the people that will directly impact my access to local healthcare.
 
Lightcycle said:
I don't even bother responding on the forum that are more US-centric.

Now that the borders are closed, the level of ignorance and callousness ("let the old people die") doesn't affect me at all. But on a Canadian forum, yeah, I'll take the time because these are the people that will directly impact my access to local healthcare.
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“let them die” until it’s their mum and dad.......I don’t like where we are as a species when people talk like this. As I’ve gotten older, people have become more selfish it seems.
 
Lightcycle said:
It's too early to tell if you are immune after getting over COVID-19. Or how long that immunity lasts for.

There are reports of people getting sick after they've recovered.

Still too early to make that call either way, from what I am reading.
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I can guarantee that just because you've had it once doesn't mean that you're completely exempt from it reoccurring. But, I do think it will help your body to fight it a second time, and fight a slightly different version of it as well.
 
Renboy said:
I can guarantee that just because you've had it once doesn't mean that you're completely exempt from it reoccurring. But, I do think it will help your body to fight it a second time, and fight a slightly different version of it as well.
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I've read up on it.

You may be right, or you may be wrong. Every infectious disease expert states that it is still too early to tell how this novel coronavirus behaves in people who have recovered.
 
Lightcycle said:
I don't even bother responding on the forums that are more US-centric.

Now that the borders are closed, the level of ignorance and callousness ("let the old people die") doesn't affect me at all. But on a Canadian forum, yeah, I'll take the time because these are the people that will directly impact my access to local healthcare.
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Whoa, hold on there guys, at no point did I say let them die. I do have parents, and although they're not in the 80+ age range, they are old enough. And, I've also treated them differently from each other because of their constitutions. My dad is healthy and strong, he chooses to see my kids, and I'm fine with that. My mom, not so much.
 
Renboy said:
Whoa, hold on there guys, at no point did I say let them die. I do have parents, and although they're not in the 80+ age range, they are old enough. And, I've also treated them differently from each other because of their constitutions. My dad is healthy and strong, he chooses to see my kids, and I'm fine with that. My mom, not so much.
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They don't live together? What's stopping your dad from acquiring it and passing it to her?
 
Lightcycle said:
I've read up on it.

You may be right, or you may be wrong. Every infectious disease expert states that it is still too early to tell how this novel coronavirus behaves in people who have recovered.
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I can agree with that. The only parallels I use are from the flu because, as much as some may try to argue, it is very similar.
 
Renboy said:
If you look at the stats, it is an old person problem. They are the ones that are getting the most infections, and ending up in the hospitals with the severest cases. If the gov't is to intervene, then put them on house arrest, they'd probably be safer that way. Not to mention, they have nothing better to do, they're retired. Not allowing a pb&j sandwich at school because a very small percentage of kids has an allergy to peanuts is ridiculous.
Another sad fact is I can guarantee depression and suicide rates are going to skyrocket because of this financial shutdown. A vast majority of people here are paycheck to paycheck, losing their houses and cars isn't going to do them any good.
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Wow, just Wow. If i have any more to add to this, I'll have to ban myself.
 
Brian P said:
The geneticists say otherwise. It also fails the common-sense test: A weapon that is indiscriminate in who it affects isn't a very useful one.
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Not for a country anyway. For someone that wants to wreak havoc (either for profit or just to be an ass), this one works great. Short everything, shut down the world economy, buy a private island to keep the infidels away.
 
Wingboy said:
Wow, just Wow. If i have any more to add to this, I'll have to ban myself.
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These kids behave like they're never going to be old one day.

Never have someone tell them, "just stay the F at home, gramps, or I'll give you coronavirus and that'll learn ya to step out into the sunlight where only young people belong!"
 
Brian P said:
The geneticists say otherwise. It also fails the common-sense test: A weapon that is indiscriminate in who it affects isn't a very useful one.
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Unless N Korea had something to do with it.
How are they doing lately?
I heard they blasted a few in Japan's direction, when C19 was starting to get headlines. No news since then.
 
GreyGhost said:
As expected, Trumpy just cut off a supply of masks.

globalnews.ca

Coronavirus: Trump asks medical supply firm 3M to stop selling N95 respirators to Canada - National | Globalnews.ca

Trump invoked the Defence Production Act in an effort to speed up the distribution of desperately needed hospital masks amid the novel coronavirus pandemic.
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"U.S.-based company 3M said Friday that it can no longer supply N95 respirators to Canada amid the coronavirus pandemic.

U.S. President Donald Trump has ordered Minnesota-based company to produce and sell as many medical-grade masks as the Federal Emergency Management Agency says it needs. He invoked the Defence Production Act in order to speed up the distribution of masks."
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3M is firing back and they pointed out that other countries would retaliate and actually lower overall production, likely some stuff in the supply chain for the masks.
 
Renboy said:
I'm curious to know what you found so offensive.
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You're insensitive to the plight of others, you're touting outdated or misleading information as if it were authoritarian, and you are suggesting a course of action which, if followed, would result in a devastating load on our health-care system.

Stop watching Fox News, and pay no attention whatsoever to what Donald Trump says. Do pay attention to what Fauci says.

And DON'T send me a PM about this. You're capable of deleting your own posts. Do it.
 
Evoex said:
3M is firing back and they pointed out that other countries would retaliate and actually lower overall production, likely some stuff in the supply chain for the masks.
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Are they able to disobey the order? Or is this something that must be followed and we're left to find another source of supply?
 
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