conservatives hire consultants at $90k a day from now til april

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I have a few tips on how they can save money, 1 is stop hiring consultants. maybe we should have elected the consultants if the politicians don't know how to do their jobs. also... private bids? how are these consultants connected to the politicians that hired them?

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...-to-help-cut-federal-spending/article2172390/

The Harper government is paying a management consulting firm almost $90,000 a day for advice on how to save money.
Deloitte Inc. was hired on Aug. 15 on a $19.8-million contract to advise the federal cabinet and senior officials on finding enough savings to balance the books by 2014.
The contract, which runs until March 31, is to advise “senior and elected officials on public and private sector best practices in improving productivity and achieving operational efficiencies.” There is also an option for a one-year extension.

The federal government invited a select group of 20 “pre-qualified” firms to bid on the work on July 11, rather than use a fully open tendering process. Documents describing the work required were supplied directly to the invited bidders, rather than posted on a tendering website for anyone to see.
The Canadian Press obtained a copy of the so-called “statement of work” under the Access to Information Act.
Deloitte will advise the government on the Strategic and Operating Review, a year-long exercise announced in the March 22 budget that will eventually trim $4 billion from $80 billion in annual program spending.
Tony Clement, Treasury Board president, has asked 67 departments and agencies to submit two scenarios this fall, one with cuts of five per cent, another with cuts of 10 per cent.
A nine-person committee headed by Mr. Clement will vet the proposals, and the results will become part of Finance Minister Jim Flaherty's spring budget. Mr. Clement has said that transfer payments to individuals and the provinces will not be touched.
To date, the government has provided only minimal information about the timelines and process.
Deloitte's final reports are due to be delivered in February next year, suggesting the spring budget is to be released in March, the traditional time frame.
The firm provided training sessions for officials over the last month, as well as management tools to help the committee review the spending-cut proposals expected in October from more than five dozen departments and agencies.
The contract also calls for advice on consolidating the government's far-flung data centres, a centrepiece of the current belt-tightening exercise.
The government has already paid PriceWaterhouseCoopers a $2.5-million fee for advice on how to reduce 308 data centres to about 20.
Deloitte must also provide an information specialist to advise on “disposing of information,” and “co-ordinating Access to Information and Privacy Act requirements.” The expert will also be “responsible for the efficient and systematic control of the creation, receipt, maintenance, use and disposition of records.”
A spokeswoman for Mr. Clement defended the contract, saying Ottawa needs the best advice available for reducing costs.
“Engaging private sector advisers who have been successful with cost-saving operational reviews will better enable ministers and deputy heads not only to compile their individual cost-savings proposals but also to provide practical advice on what to look for and how to execute their plans,” press secretary Heather Hume said in an email.
“As always, our government is committed to maintaining an open, fair and transparent procurement process while obtaining the best possible value for Canadians.”
Ms. Hume declined to respond to further questions about the review, saying they are “cabinet processes.”
Other firms invited to bid on the $20-million contract included Ernst & Young, IBM Canada, Bell Canada and Accenture Inc.



 
I have a few tips on how they can save money, 1 is stop hiring consultants. maybe we should have elected the consultants if the politicians don't know how to do their jobs. also... private bids? how are these consultants connected to the politicians that hired them?

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...-to-help-cut-federal-spending/article2172390/

The Harper government is paying a management consulting firm almost $90,000 a day for advice on how to save money.
Deloitte Inc. was hired on Aug. 15 on a $19.8-million contract to advise the federal cabinet and senior officials on finding enough savings to balance the books by 2014.
The contract, which runs until March 31, is to advise “senior and elected officials on public and private sector best practices in improving productivity and achieving operational efficiencies.” There is also an option for a one-year extension.

The federal government invited a select group of 20 “pre-qualified” firms to bid on the work on July 11, rather than use a fully open tendering process. Documents describing the work required were supplied directly to the invited bidders, rather than posted on a tendering website for anyone to see.
The Canadian Press obtained a copy of the so-called “statement of work” under the Access to Information Act.
Deloitte will advise the government on the Strategic and Operating Review, a year-long exercise announced in the March 22 budget that will eventually trim $4 billion from $80 billion in annual program spending.
Tony Clement, Treasury Board president, has asked 67 departments and agencies to submit two scenarios this fall, one with cuts of five per cent, another with cuts of 10 per cent.
A nine-person committee headed by Mr. Clement will vet the proposals, and the results will become part of Finance Minister Jim Flaherty's spring budget. Mr. Clement has said that transfer payments to individuals and the provinces will not be touched.
To date, the government has provided only minimal information about the timelines and process.
Deloitte's final reports are due to be delivered in February next year, suggesting the spring budget is to be released in March, the traditional time frame.
The firm provided training sessions for officials over the last month, as well as management tools to help the committee review the spending-cut proposals expected in October from more than five dozen departments and agencies.
The contract also calls for advice on consolidating the government's far-flung data centres, a centrepiece of the current belt-tightening exercise.
The government has already paid PriceWaterhouseCoopers a $2.5-million fee for advice on how to reduce 308 data centres to about 20.
Deloitte must also provide an information specialist to advise on “disposing of information,” and “co-ordinating Access to Information and Privacy Act requirements.” The expert will also be “responsible for the efficient and systematic control of the creation, receipt, maintenance, use and disposition of records.”
A spokeswoman for Mr. Clement defended the contract, saying Ottawa needs the best advice available for reducing costs.
“Engaging private sector advisers who have been successful with cost-saving operational reviews will better enable ministers and deputy heads not only to compile their individual cost-savings proposals but also to provide practical advice on what to look for and how to execute their plans,” press secretary Heather Hume said in an email.
“As always, our government is committed to maintaining an open, fair and transparent procurement process while obtaining the best possible value for Canadians.”
Ms. Hume declined to respond to further questions about the review, saying they are “cabinet processes.”
Other firms invited to bid on the $20-million contract included Ernst & Young, IBM Canada, Bell Canada and Accenture Inc.




What are you more outraged about? The fact that elected officials admit they are not experts in running a country and source out expert advice to make better educated decisions? Is it the high cost of that expert advice? Are you upset that these consulting firms prefer making millions of dollars advising business firms and governments rather than the $150,000 salary they could make as an MP?
 
WTF is the point of publicly elected officials and high paid public servants if we have to hire private consultants to do their work for them?? It makes no bloody sense.

Conservative governments can yap all day about fiscal responsibility - when are voters going to wake up and realize that it's the same ****, no matter who's in power.
 
WTF is the point of publicly elected officials and high paid public servants if we have to hire private consultants to do their work for them?? It makes no bloody sense.

Conservative governments can yap all day about fiscal responsibility - when are voters going to wake up and realize that it's the same ****, no matter who's in power.

The elected officials try to do what is best for those they represent (ideally anyhow), that does not always mean they are experts on how to do it economically.

If it costs $19M to save $100M then we have a net savings of $81M. Without the consulting support perhaps we could only save $50M. It's a net gain by bringing in a consulting firm.

Without all the numbers.. it's impossible to say whether or not it's worth it... it's also impossible to say that it is a total waste.
 
After seeing the big picture doesn't seem bad when considering they are trying to save $4 billion by spending $20 million on a private source not having an agenda in the government. We're the few countries doing well in this recession and at least our government is trying their best for this country.

I'll bet the first thing these private companies would advise is trimming the payrolls of public servants just like the government hiring some guy to find cost saving measures in the military. His first recommendation was too many high paid senior brass doing nothing in the military. It's good to see the government is willing to accept advices from outside the government. Now it all depends if the government will actually implement those advices but it's a step in the right direction.
 
I have no idea why this is newsworthy! Govt's, NGOs, Enterprises all hire private consultants and professional services all the time. There is a huge RFP process and it's all legit. Like someone above said, if x is spent to save y, what's the problem? A Deloitte consultant's hourly rate is 290/hr, managers and above charge way beyond that. It's the price of expertise (whether they're providing that is a different question). And no, it's not awarded to friends and family and to get a gov't project is a huge pain in the *** process at the provincial level, I can only imagine at the Federal level.
 
Is the management consulting firm unionized? That might be her issue.
 
This happens all the time, with every single political party and every single democratic country. This really isnt news...
 
Boring.

They are hiring consultants to save billions of dollars.....

Just like you pay someone to fix your car when something serious goes wrong with it.

Why did you even post this?

We are supposed to GAF?
 
Yup, don't get the issue here. Politicians aren't experts in every field. Probably 99.9% of what they do at that level is through consultations, committees, working groups... Good advice comes from competent people, and in the long run they are cheaper than the hacks.
 
i need to get a job as one of those consultants lol. once got the job. i will come on gtam and ask members on how to do my job for free while im sitting in my office counting the cash. lol
 
I've never heard of any government outsourcing policy decisions; especially, to a foreign company. Are there no Economists in academia that could've done this? I simply don't trust any corporation to dictate policy, and neither should any person belonging to the middle class.


From Deloitte's website:
[h=1]About Deloitte[/h]
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“Deloitte” is the brand under which tens of thousands of dedicated professionals in independent firms throughout the world collaborate to provide audit,consulting, financial advisory, risk management, andtax services to selected clients.

These firms are members of Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu Limited (DTTL), a UK private company limited by guarantee. Each member firm provides services in a particular geographic area and is subject to the laws and professional regulations of the particular country or countries in which it operates. DTTL does not itself provide services to clients. DTTL and each DTTL member firm are separate and distinct legal entities, which cannot obligate each other. DTTL and each DTTL member firm are liable only for their own acts or omissions and not those of each other. Each DTTL member firm is structured differently in accordance with national laws, regulations, customary practice, and other factors, and may secure the provision of professional services in its territory through subsidiaries, affiliates, and/or other entities.
 
Yes let's grab an 'economist from academia' to analyze the books of what is essentially a multi-billion dollar corporation...

Like it or not, this is how big money decisions are made; both in the private and public sectors. Deloitte is a massive firm with tons of experience in the field.

Nothing newsworthy here.
 
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I've never heard of any government outsourcing policy decisions; especially, to a foreign company. Are there no Economists in academia that could've done this? I simply don't trust any corporation to dictate policy, and neither should any person belonging to the middle class.


From Deloitte's website:
About Deloitte


dtt_binder_200x200_011110.jpg
“Deloitte” is the brand under which tens of thousands of dedicated professionals in independent firms throughout the world collaborate to provide audit,consulting, financial advisory, risk management, andtax services to selected clients.

These firms are members of Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu Limited (DTTL), a UK private company limited by guarantee. Each member firm provides services in a particular geographic area and is subject to the laws and professional regulations of the particular country or countries in which it operates. DTTL does not itself provide services to clients. DTTL and each DTTL member firm are separate and distinct legal entities, which cannot obligate each other. DTTL and each DTTL member firm are liable only for their own acts or omissions and not those of each other. Each DTTL member firm is structured differently in accordance with national laws, regulations, customary practice, and other factors, and may secure the provision of professional services in its territory through subsidiaries, affiliates, and/or other entities.

read the whole thing.

They provide the right people for the job, nothing more. It's up to the people that hire them to then make the decisions based on their findings.

Deloitte's at my place of work twice a year conducting audits on behalf of the company to make sure we're compliant with industry regulations and that things are getting done to justify the budget.

Seems to be a smart decision if you ask me.
 
I'm all for this! you think 90k a day for such a consulting service is unreasonable? You obviously don't work in the consulting industry, you should be happy they are getting advice from a party that is an absolute EXPERT on the subject. This sounds like something the trades guys mumble about around the job box, "ohhhh 90k a day that would buy a lot of beer! ****in right buddy!", its peanuts in comparison to how much this could possibly save.

I'm actually glad we voted in the harps, he's killin it.
 
WTF is the point of publicly elected officials and high paid public servants if we have to hire private consultants to do their work for them?? It makes no bloody sense.

The point of publicly elected officials is act in the best interests of Canadian voters. The conservative government wants to trim 4 billion - spending 20 million (1/2 a percent of 4 billion) for some of the best advice in North America is a good way to start. There's no doubt a lot of high paid public servant's jobs will be on the chopping block when the consultant's make their recommendations. It's how most businesses become successful. What else is new?
 
read the whole thing.

They provide the right people for the job, nothing more. It's up to the people that hire them to then make the decisions based on their findings.

Deloitte's at my place of work twice a year conducting audits on behalf of the company to make sure we're compliant with industry regulations and that things are getting done to justify the budget.

Seems to be a smart decision if you ask me.



 
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The point of publicly elected officials is act in the best interests of Canadian voters. The conservative government wants to trim 4 billion - spending 20 million (1/2 a percent of 4 billion) for some of the best advice in North America is a good way to start. There's no doubt a lot of high paid public servant's jobs will be on the chopping block when the consultant's make their recommendations. It's how most businesses become successful. What else is new?

The Harper Gov. hired a private, foreign company, to complete a task they were elected to perform. And on top of that, they're looking for advice on how to cut public services, and not something trivial. Yeah, I'd rather see a team of PHD's from this country tackle this problem than a foreign non profit any day. This sort of outsourcing may be business as usual for the company you work for or you own, but Deloitte's recommendations can possibly effect people's lives; it's not business as usual. I read the entire article before I made my post; the Gov. doesn't have to follow Deloitte's advice, but the simple fact that Flaherty and friends hired an outside source to tell them to, maybe cut gov. jobs, is shocking to me.

And then there's this: http://www.canada.com/story_print.html?id=726159b7-ddc8-4d68-a346-be5c0ca0edb4&sponsor=
 
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The Harper Gov. hired a private, foreign company, to complete a task they were elected to perform. And on top of that, they're looking for advice on how to cut public services, and not something trivial. Yeah, I'd rather see a team of PHD's from this country tackle this problem than a foreign non profit any day. This sort of outsourcing may be business as usual for the company you work for or you own, but Deloitte's recommendations can possibly effect people's lives; it's not business as usual. I read the entire article before I made my post; the Gov. doesn't have to follow Deloitte's advice, but the simple fact that Flaherty and friends hired an outside source to tell them to, maybe cut gov. jobs, is shocking to me.

And then there's this: http://www.canada.com/story_print.html?id=726159b7-ddc8-4d68-a346-be5c0ca0edb4&sponsor=

you do realize where those PHDs that want to work in the consulting field end up right?....mckinsey, bain, deloitte, accenture etc etc...big firms...you're telling me you want to hire a bookworm with no xp to fix our problems...sounds like you voted liberal

Deloitte is a global company, they have many offices here in Canada - local talent that works for the 'uk based company' - just to deal with local (and sensitive) issues. Outsourcing isn't necessarily the same as offshoring. With that being said, it is too bad the money isn't going back to the little guy (smaller local firms that are wholely based here)....but the little guy doesn't have the talent or experience to tackle these problems.

nice link, just because one of 170,000 deloitte employees is a rotten apple, must mean the rest of the company is too right?

And no, i don't work for Deloitte.

I just love it when people misinterpret **** and then blow it up.
 
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