consequences of having dropped the bike 3 times in one ride.....??

[Johnny5]

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It really doesn't sound like the bike or anything technical. It's the rider. 4 hours learning in private from one guy isn't enough to be on public roads. And dropping it 3 times is scary, you're a risk to yourself and others at this point. When i was learning at the msf course i stalled quite a bit at the course whenever we had to stop and go, it's just about getting enough confidence to give it enough throttle while you let the clutch out, it's a fine point and something that isn't learned in just one day. Take a proper msf course and until then don't ride on public roads. Not saying that to sound mean. Just for your safety.

 

[AngelEyez]

Everyone one was telling her to find a parking lot. You can't really do that if you can't get up the ramp of your parking garage.

Here endth the lesson.

First time I got on a 600cc bike was in an underground parking garage, if I had wanted to take it out I would have had to go up the ramp. All I did was drive it around in the underground a few times to get used to it and then I had no problems getting up the ramp

 

[Griffin]

u need to give some throttle when you release your clutch in order not to stall the bike

Not really. To start moving quickly this is true and is true for most street riding. But you should be able to get your bike moving smoothly with no throtle input at all if you have good clutch control. In stop and go traffic I don't typically bother with the throtle.

Then again, once moving I don't tend to bother with the clutch. Hmm...

 

[matt123]

You need to take the course then find a huge parking lot and get down basics.Learn how to counter balance at low speed and counter steer at speeds above 20kmph.Just practice it until becomes second nature so that you don't have to think about how to ride when stressful situations on busy roads arise.It sounds like you got flustered and should have taken a break before getting back on to ride after your first drop and it happens so..........
Most people don't remember or want to admit how shity they were when the first started riding.When you look back at it in a couple years you will realize your biggest mistake was getting a nice bike to learn on.

 

[silent_vik]

I am taking the course next weekend, I just wanted to make sure I got a hang of shifting gears ahead of time so that I can focus on the technical stuff of being a better rider, which is what the instructor at the sheridan college advised me to do cause i've never driven a manual car either...

thats bad advise IMO. when i did the course at Sheridan, never had driven manual car. still dont. never riden a moped, scooter or anything with two wheels with an engine.
they teach you from start. from walking your bike to being pushed while you are on the bike to doing the basic emergency manuvers..
first step would be to take the course. Since you are going next weekend, Good Luck! Have a fun time. BIG respect to continue even after 3 drops in one ride. You have a right attitude towards this. You will be fine.

 

[|X|]

Stalling on a slow tight turn is the thing that I advised my wife when she was learning is the most likely thing to cause a rider to fall over. I still believe that to be true and it is still the thing I screw up at times. You had it happen three times in a row but, as noted, your stress level and nerves were probably working overtime and I would have been a nervous wreck in your shoes by the time the honking bus was on my butt.

Indeed this is how I dropped my bike the first and only time (so far). That is unless you count the spill I took at 40kmh on the wet streetcar tracks, but that is documented in another thread.

When going around a corner at low speed, I learned the hard way that clutch and throttle control are very important. In about my second week of riding I forgot to engage the clutch and stalled my bike on a tight right-hand turn at an intersection. One second I was turning, one second I was on my *** on the pavement looking at my bike sideways.

The only way you can really learn the clutch / throttle interaction is by riding for hours and hours and hours. Downtown Toronto is actually great for practicing because you do A LOT of stopping and starting I actually find it safter riding in the city core since it is slower with far less traffic constantly turning in from parking lots / driveways. The suburban 60kmh six-lane streets are the ones that scare me the most!

 

[Griffin]

The only way you can really learn the clutch / throttle interaction is by riding for hours and hours and hours. Downtown Toronto is actually great for practicing because you do A LOT of stopping and starting I actually find it safter riding in the city core since it is slower with far less traffic constantly turning in from parking lots / driveways. The suburban 60kmh six-lane streets are the ones that scare me the most!

For me, I find I get sloppy sometimes when riding in traffic and tend to stall more often then. Not to be contrary to your point, because your point is very true, it's just that I tend to get used to the inching along thing and then when I actually need to go I have stalled from not giving enough gas. The only value I've found from lots of experience doing this is that I no longer get as embarrassed and am less likely to rev the crap out of it and wheelie when I do take off.

 

[ScorpioCBR16]

I live in a condo too and ya those ramps suck especially if u get stuck on there waiting for the gate to open. A trick if u r stuck up there use ur rare breaks to balance and try to take the ramp with some throttle speed not too fast and not too slow so u won't roll back. As for the bike check if there is any leaks(sorry if anyone mentioned this before) and take the course and ride around ur parking lot feel the clutch and know when it engages and so. As a female rider I know how u feel and I know about that condo ramp lol
goodluck

 

[iRoyston]

Went for a ride, Came back home and was putting the bike up on my stand when it almost tipped over, I nearly ***** myself. I park my bike, put the kick stand on, sit backwards on the bike while balancing, lean over the back, slide the stand into place but i'm not tall enough to push and lift from there. so I quickly jump off and step on the stand as soon as I can. This is a little uneasy but I'm usually by myself, my foot hit the tank as i was coming off the right side, (mistake, no kick stand to save the bike should it fall) Lesson learned. Any eaiser way of doing this?

 

[Griffin]

Went for a ride, Came back home and was putting the bike up on my stand when it almost tipped over, I nearly ***** myself. I park my bike, put the kick stand on, sit backwards on the bike while balancing, lean over the back, slide the stand into place but i'm not tall enough to push and lift from there. so I quickly jump off and step on the stand as soon as I can. This is a little uneasy but I'm usually by myself, my foot hit the tank as i was coming off the right side, (mistake, no kick stand to save the bike should it fall) Lesson learned. Any eaiser way of doing this?

You're talking about the main stand I take it. If you aren't all that tall, I would guess that putting it onto the sidestand first, then get off, then raise the bike to vertical and step on the main stand lever while pulling up and back on the bike. When I had a main stand I'd just get off and balance the bike with my left hand until I had my foot on the main stand lever and my right hand on the frame under the seat. But I'm big so I don't know if you'd be comfortable with that or not.

 

[Sabex]

Went for a ride, Came back home and was putting the bike up on my stand when it almost tipped over, I nearly ***** myself. I park my bike, put the kick stand on, sit backwards on the bike while balancing, lean over the back, slide the stand into place but i'm not tall enough to push and lift from there. so I quickly jump off and step on the stand as soon as I can. This is a little uneasy but I'm usually by myself, my foot hit the tank as i was coming off the right side, (mistake, no kick stand to save the bike should it fall) Lesson learned. Any eaiser way of doing this?

I'm assuming you mean CENTER STAND. (The one under the bike that keeps the back raised up?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDNqCMNau9A

Although, personally; I find it easier if I grab the frame under the tank as opposed to the handlebars.

Or if you mean rearstand: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHS46NK9650

 

[iRoyston]

thank you Sabex. Any feed back on these stands? http://www.bursigusa.com/ I also have limited room for winter storage, I want to tuck my bike in to the corner. The rear stand is possible but need muscle to get it in nice and tight!.

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