Condo giving my bike the boot

[nobbie48]

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give them a call, perhaps they have someone else that can assist you, the lady I spoke with was very helpful and really knew her stuff, the call can't hurt.

then again as an owner, go to the AGM, and have the By-Law changed, or amended, or pass a new By-Law, rally fellow owners to help you out and vote with you.

1) OP isn't an owner and can't attend the AGM.

2) Rally fellow owners is BS. Motorcycle owners are 2% of the population and half are annoying. You don't come with a sympathy card.

If some retired old fart in the building has an agenda and has nothing to do but meddle you are wasting riding time. It's like fighting the tide with a broom.

 

[GateKeeper]

1) OP isn't an owner and can't attend the AGM.

2) Rally fellow owners is BS. Motorcycle owners are 2% of the population and half are annoying. You don't come with a sympathy card.

If some retired old fart in the building has an agenda and has nothing to do but meddle you are wasting riding time. It's like fighting the tide with a broom.

In the condo I lived in any one could attend the AGM, but only owners could vote, he could also have his landlord attend the meeting on his behalf

Why not ask fellow owners ?, he said there are a few in the building, no harm in asking, sitting around and doing nothing get's one nowhere.

If someone does not want to do anything, then nothing gets done or changed, it's their choice, I only found info that could potentially be used in the fight.

and it takes more than one retired old fart with an agenda to be a pain, if you have enough that out vote him, the old fart has lost.

 

[cyberphox]

I live in the same building and we are already gathering a crowd so to speak. They have charged a fellow owner about $1000 dollars now claiming that is the legal fee for the lawyer to get involved and write the letter to him. They placed a lien on his condo and his lawyer told him to pay and then sue them for it. The letter we received from the board was that if the lawyer had to contact us, we would be charged his fee if they won. Which is ironic cause if we win, then the lawyer's fee are paid by the board money - which are our condo fees anyway!! Again like another poster already said: some old fart with an agenda to be a pain. We have gotten enough signatures to call a meeting next month before the AGM to have the board removed.

 

[OpenGambit]

I live in the same building and we are already gathering a crowd so to speak. They have charged a fellow owner about $1000 dollars now claiming that is the legal fee for the lawyer to get involved and write the letter to him. They placed a lien on his condo and his lawyer told him to pay and then sue them for it. The letter we received from the board was that if the lawyer had to contact us, we would be charged his fee if they won. Which is ironic cause if we win, then the lawyer's fee are paid by the board money - which are our condo fees anyway!! Again like another poster already said: some old fart with an agenda to be a pain. We have gotten enough signatures to call a meeting next month before the AGM to have the board removed.

That costs language is standard and not really of concern. it's normal to include it in demand letters as a scare tactic.

this lawyer asked for 1000 dollars to write a ****** letter about a parking space? wtf?

 

[RedDogDarren]

Park your car on the street and leave your bike in the spot. Living with BS is all part of the condo experience. Enjoy the thrill.

 

[js2021]

you can but a pickup truck with a ramp to drive your bike on with.
Or you can sell the condo and by a house and not deal with other's b.s. for a place you own.

 

[cyberphox]

Park your car on the street and leave your bike in the spot. Living with BS is all part of the condo experience. Enjoy the thrill.

Somehow I think parking a car on LakeShore Blvd W would cause a problem...lol

That costs language is standard and not really of concern. it's normal to include it in demand letters as a scare tactic.

this lawyer asked for 1000 dollars to write a ****** letter about a parking space? wtf?

I believe that was 2 letters worth if that makes a difference...I know the first letter was $500 for the board contracting him to write the letter l and start the legal process. And I might add there is a list of 49 names on the bulletin board downstairs of people looking to buy/rent a parking place since the building doesn't have enough parking for anyone. A few more have tried to get our names added to the list but they don't seem to want to update it.

 

[cyberphox]

you can but a pickup truck with a ramp to drive your bike on with.
Or you can sell the condo and by a house and not deal with other's b.s. for a place you own.

We just purchased in August...and as far as selling the condo, as you can see there's not a really strong selling point when you are dealing with a board like this. Would you want to move/buy here? I know I wouldn't if I had the chance again.

 

[js2021]

Yeah I know what you mean, I have cousin who has a similar problem and if he were to sell he would be in a loss. That is the biggest problem with condo's you have to deal with the managments b.s., it may not be parking but there is always something.

 

[suprPHREAK]

The part I never understand is that your space is deeded...you OWN it. What right does a condo board have to tell you how to use your space, so long as it doesn't present a hazard to others?

Rediculous...your home should be your refuge, and this board crap just makes it a stress. Rediculous.

 

[OpenGambit]

The part I never understand is that your space is deeded...you OWN it. What right does a condo board have to tell you how to use your space, so long as it doesn't present a hazard to others?

Rediculous...your home should be your refuge, and this board crap just makes it a stress. Rediculous.

The part i never understand is why ppl keep bringing this up. - the owner agreed to abide by those rules when he bought the place.

 

[Brian P]

Reminder to self: Never live in a condo.

 

[AGAVE]

Reminder to self: Never live in a condo.

I just don't understand how they fill them so easily.
The monthly fees alone are ridiculous considering what they charge to own an apartment.
Some people pay 1500 and more to rent a one bedroom, wtf??!
That tells me either too many people are overpaid, or they are spending more than half their income on rent.

And for the rest of my opinion, you can refer back to my first post in this thread lol.
http://www.gtamotorcycle.com/vbforu...ike-the-boot&p=1744764&viewfull=1#post1744764

Rob says there is a lake behind the wall of condos? I must have missed it, all i saw was a wall of buildings, similar to Hong Kong.

 

[kiwi]

Rob says there is a lake behind the wall of condos? I must have missed it, all i saw was a wall of buildings, similar to Hong Kong.

Yeah man, you no longer can see Sky Dome from Toronto Island either.

 

[cyberphox]

The part i never understand is why ppl keep bringing this up. - the owner agreed to abide by those rules when he bought the place.

And the rules state: your parking spot is for Motor Vehicle parking purposes only. That's it. I read that as no shopping carts, storage, bicycles etc. Last time I checked my car and my motorcycle are there and they both look like motor vehicles to me. Their is nothing in the by-law that the number, although they are saying it is clearly written as singular. The problem is, they are wrong...the only thing clear is the motor vehicle vs. anything else.

 

[cyberphox]

The part I never understand is that your space is deeded...you OWN it. What right does a condo board have to tell you how to use your space, so long as it doesn't present a hazard to others?

Rediculous...your home should be your refuge, and this board crap just makes it a stress. Rediculous.

Quite ironic. We own the parking space. We bought it, it's ours to do with it what we wish. We can sell it, we can rent it, but by the jesus you better not try to park a car and motorcycle in there or we will sick a lawyer on your *** and put a lien on your unit. Yeah ok then.

 

[nobbie48]

In the condo I lived in any one could attend the AGM, but only owners could vote, he could also have his landlord attend the meeting on his behalf

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If I was renting out a unit the last thing I would want is my tenant at the AGM while MY costs are being discussed. How much profit I make on the unit is my business. A big part of the meeting is financial.

 

[turbodish]

We have gotten enough signatures to call a meeting next month before the AGM to have the board removed.

You only need 15% of owners to call a meeting. You need 50% plus 1 of all owners in the condo (and not just those attending ameeting) to actually get a Board member removed. Good luck on that one.

 

[turbodish]

Maybe not but the Landlord and Tenant Board would

I just got off the phone with them, and they have had cases like this, and have overturned the Condo's so called By-Laws,

I'd question that. The LTA governs the relationship between a landlord and the tenant. The condo is a not a landlord. As far as condo rules go, the tenant is governed by the Condominium Act and not the LTA.

Tenants are still obligated to comply with a condo's rules. For example, while rental properties generally cannot enforce a "no pets" rule, a condo can in fact enforce such a rule on a condo unit that is being rented out. Condo rules trump the LTA in most cases unless the condo rules are in breach of Ontario's Human Rights Code.

A condominium’s governing documents are enforceable (subject to compliance with Ontario’s Human Rights Code) against owners and tenants. Condominium tenants have the same obligations to comply with the condominium’s governing documents as do the owners of the units. And the rights of condominium corporations in relation to the units (for example, rights of entry in order to perform the objects and duties of the corporation) are no different whether the unit is owner-occupied or tenant-occupied. http://www.nelligan.ca/e/pu_article.cfm?article=61

 

[GateKeeper]

I'd question that. The LTA governs the relationship between a landlord and the tenant. The condo is a not a landlord. As far as condo rules go, the tenant is governed by the Condominium Act and not the LTA.

Tenants are still obligated to comply with a condo's rules. For example, while rental properties generally cannot enforce a "no pets" rule, a condo can in fact enforce such a rule on a condo unit that is being rented out. Condo rules trump the LTA in most cases unless the condo rules are in breach of Ontario's Human Rights Code.

Well don't question it, call them yourself as I did, I only posted what I was told, and told them what the OP posted.

And no you cannot stop or prevent persons to have a pet, my parents lived in a building that had this as a rule, and as a by-law, and it was ordered to be removed, no if's and's or but's about it, you can have how many pets, their size, but you can't say you can't have one.

And according to the LTB, condo rules do not always have the last say

Hey you don't need to agree with me, talk to them yourself as I did, what I posted was what I was told, the best is if the OP makes the call himself, and or fills in the form and makes the submission and gets his answer.

I personally don't mind following rules and regulations, it's a part of everyday life, but that don't mean if I think something is over and above, that I can't question it or get someone to look into it, change it, or tell me, too bad, that is the way it is..... I was on a board of directors when I lived in a condo, I made many changes just by asking and having support from the rest of the board and owners, the bylaws are what the corporations want, and that is controlled by the board and the owners, but they can always be questioned and or challenged....as they usually are a lot of times....

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