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Church Burnings - Are these Hate Crimes?

Do I need to lose 70 pounds to have a chance of being rescued by a firefighter?
165 pounds seems a little slim in this day and age. I was 15 when I weighed that.
 
Baggsy said:
Do I need to lose 70 pounds to have a chance of being rescued by a firefighter?
165 pounds seems a little slim in this day and age. I was 15 when I weighed that.
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On the other hand, if you're a 325-lb 3-can-a-day-Pringles-chompin' porker, ain't many fireMEN gonna sling you over his shoulder and carry you down no ladder...
 
bigpoppa said:
yes pls, damn shame she got fired
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I really liked her in movies/Mandalorian, absolute badass. Too bad her internet personality is so toxic that she nuked a very promising career
 
regder said:
I really liked her in movies/Mandalorian, absolute badass. Too bad her internet personality is so toxic that she nuked a very promising career
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Didn't they give her multiple chances to STFU but she just doubled down on her rhetoric?

I've never seen her outside of Mandalorian so can't comment, she was alright in that. Don't think I'd nuke that sweet gig on that talking point.
 
mimico_polak said:
Didn't they give her multiple chances to STFU but she just doubled down on her rhetoric?

I've never seen her outside of Mandalorian so can't comment, she was alright in that. Don't think I'd nuke that sweet gig on that talking point.
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You have probably seen her in other things....Almost Human, Deadpool, Fast & Furious 6 and, way back, she was Crush on American Gladiators
 
GreyGhost said:
Well that's good news for us. I don't want to pay to keep him away from the innocent for his whole life. Hopefully our government does something right and doesn't allow him back in. No need to chase him, let him live his life far away.
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Actually... He received an absolute discharge a couple of years ago and is completely free with zero restrictions.. He changed his name a while back.
 
It's somewhat interesting the way that the government has slowly backed away, while letting the churches take the heat.
Government could have found/created another organization to execute their plan.
Government would control the guidelines, the budget, the locations, the security, and apparently the medical experimentation that went on.
They'd also have the last word on any implementation.
Churches would have supplied some manpower for the execution, but not their best people. Quite possibly their worst.
 
Mad Mike said:
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I'm tired of seeing churches burned with impunity. While I get the connection and understand the Indigenous distaste for some religions however burning churches to me is intolerable.

Imagine if Palestine Canadians decided the same fate should fall upon synagogues? Or Pakastini-Sikh Canadians decided start burning Mosques? Or Canadian kids who suffered at the hands of Canadian clergy decided to burn churches?

I'm all for peaceful protests. I'm all for Indigenous communities petitioning churches to remove their unused buildings -- I'm not for church burnings.
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That's a pretty big limb you're walking out on......Not for Church burnings eh?
 
Baggsy said:
It's somewhat interesting the way that the government has slowly backed away, while letting the churches take the heat.
Government could have found/created another organization to execute their plan.
Government would control the guidelines, the budget, the locations, the security, and apparently the medical experimentation that went on.
They'd also have the last word on any implementation.
Churches would have supplied some manpower for the execution, but not their best people. Quite possibly their worst.
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Didn't the government, in essence, franchise out the schools to the various churches.
 
Dimitri said:
Yes, a big reason was because the government thought to take the "savage" out of the Native they needed to learn to be Christians.
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Not surprised. That is my problem with mostmissionaries. I like that they are trying to help people but most have a bit too much rah rah god for me. Go in, help with food, water and learning, have some discussions about god if you want but dont make bringing god to the savages the center point of your mission. FWIW, I give money to some nuns in Africa that follow my ethos and do amazing things to help slum kids escape the cycle.
 
nobbie48 said:
Didn't the government, in essence, franchise out the schools to the various churches.
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The "churches" were running the vast majority of schools, all over the country.
The catholic church essentially ran the Quebec school board till the '90s
The 'churches" had the experience and infrastructure to run schools so getting them to run these "residential" schools was a natural fit, and cheaper.
Being a school teacher in the middle of no where didn't pay well, so I'm sure they had a hard time filling positions, but I'll bet the "churches" could recruit/convince do-gooder missionary types more easily than the average guy to fill these jobs.
"Yeah it's a low paying crappy job, in the middle of nowhere BUT you'll be spreading the word of Jebus, convertin' real HEATHENS!"
A wet dream come true.
 
nobbie48 said:
Didn't the government, in essence, franchise out the schools to the various churches.
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There really wasn’t another option. Churches have always had the human and organizational resources to operate schools, where else could they go?

Oversight was certainly a problem, as was the fact the indigenous communities were not able to fully participate in something they initially pined for.

Its a failed social experiment, we should agree on that, lick the wounds, learn from the mistakes, and move forward in a positive direction.
 
J_F said:
so if the churches are burned without specific knowledge
of any alleged wrongdoings by the clergy that served there

it is violence for political means, that is terrorism
prove me wrong
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...and in the same respect, residential schools were terrorism.
 
J_F said:
it is violence for political means, that is terrorism
prove me wrong
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Violence? For it to be violence it needs to cause harm. No one has been hurt at these empty church burnings.

Same cannot be said about the residential schools.
 
Dimitri said:
Violence? For it to be violence it needs to cause harm. No one has been hurt at these empty church burnings.

Same cannot be said about the residential schools.
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I can’t for the life of me see the point in burning churches, how is that going to solve the past?
 
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