Changes to the highway traffic act

[Green Meenie]

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This may be the 1st motorcycle enthusiast to have suffered the increased impound time and license suspension time. The article mentions his bike has been impounded for 2 weeks so I'm guessing that relates to the changes to the stunt driving laws that went into effect yesterday?
I'm not shedding any tears for this moron This kind of crap impacts all riders negatively, at least in the eyes of the cops, insurers and the general public.

Pickering man’s attempt to flee police result in charges

A 22-year-old man faces charges following a car meet in Whitby on Thursday evening (July 1). On July 1, at approximately 11 p.m., Durham police were called to the area of South Blair Street and Water...

www.thestar.com

 

[FullMotoJacket]

Old rule applies to any road with a posting of 80 and over. New rules are for Hamilton

FTFY

 

[AllistonGT]

FTFY

Another reason to not go to Hamilton.

 

[Dr.Manhattan]

This may be the 1st motorcycle enthusiast to have suffered the increased impound time and license suspension time. The article mentions his bike has been impounded for 2 weeks so I'm guessing that relates to the changes to the stunt driving laws that went into effect yesterday?
I'm not shedding any tears for this moron This kind of crap impacts all riders negatively, at least in the eyes of the cops, insurers and the general public.

Pickering man’s attempt to flee police result in charges

A 22-year-old man faces charges following a car meet in Whitby on Thursday evening (July 1). On July 1, at approximately 11 p.m., Durham police were called to the area of South Blair Street and Water...

www.thestar.com

So....he thought he had a better chance escaping on foot rather than on a motorcycle

 

[Roadghost]

OPP were all over the place towing cars on hwy 10 today.

 

[ScorpionT16]

This may be the 1st motorcycle enthusiast to have suffered the increased impound time and license suspension time. The article mentions his bike has been impounded for 2 weeks so I'm guessing that relates to the changes to the stunt driving laws that went into effect yesterday?
I'm not shedding any tears for this moron This kind of crap impacts all riders negatively, at least in the eyes of the cops, insurers and the general public.

Pickering man’s attempt to flee police result in charges

A 22-year-old man faces charges following a car meet in Whitby on Thursday evening (July 1). On July 1, at approximately 11 p.m., Durham police were called to the area of South Blair Street and Water...

www.thestar.com

Why not call them a police officer, or law enfocement, what's with the peace officer terminology. Media and the Gov always finding ways to get people to sympathize with them. They stopped using the term Law enforcement because apparently the word enforce was harsh, yet, that is exactly what it is.

With crazy insurance rates, and salaries so low for youngsters with student loans, riding a bike is a dream they also want to make difficult from every angle. Yet a 16yr old can get behind the ever so poplar SUVs using their amazing DriveTest centre skills, and TikTok their friends while driving, which is not considered too bad or worth a peace officers time... Instead they go after the minority who if anything, only endanger themselves to a large degree, so when even that gets challenged, I personally don't blame many for fleeing.

The fact that they don't fix driver education, and hand out licenses to anyone who can use a pencil, is a huge problem, off course they rather let the public pay for that and place the blame on the minority, vs accept their own faults.

 

[Dimitri]

Old rule applies to any road with a posting of 80 and over. New rules are for any roads with a posted limit of UNDER 80kmh

New rule says driver suspension for...

• 30km/h road = 70km/h
• 40km/h road = 80km/h
• 50km/h road = 90km/h
• 60km/h road = 100km/h
• 70km/h road = 110km/h

Sounds great actually. If you do manage to say do 80km/h in a 40km/h zone, perhaps a permanent driver's license suspension is in order.

 

[Gary]

FTFY

Huh?

 

[Brian P]

New rule says driver suspension for...

• 30km/h road = 70km/h
• 40km/h road = 80km/h
• 50km/h road = 90km/h
• 60km/h road = 100km/h
• 70km/h road = 110km/h

Sounds great actually. If you do manage to say do 80km/h in a 40km/h zone, perhaps a permanent driver's license suspension is in order.

There's plenty of rural roads marked 60 km/h that can be negotiated at 100 km/h quite easily and without undue risk.

 

[Maniac]

New rule says driver suspension for...

• 30km/h road = 70km/h
• 40km/h road = 80km/h
• 50km/h road = 90km/h
• 60km/h road = 100km/h
• 70km/h road = 110km/h

Sounds great actually. If you do manage to say do 80km/h in a 40km/h zone, perhaps a permanent driver's license suspension is in order.

With speed limits that make no sense sounds like utter ********.

 

[Dimitri]

There's plenty of rural roads marked 60 km/h that can be negotiated at 100 km/h quite easily and without undue risk.

Most of the world is in agreement for speeds of 100km/h and over, you need a divided highway. None of the 60km/hs fit that definition. Don't like it? Too bad.

Rural Roads in Ontario, with speed limits of 80km/h are the only place in the world you'll find stop signs that are 4 foot in diameter too. Due to the excessive amount of running them because "I didn't see the sign officer" while speeding.

What this law really should have done, is made going 20km/h over in any 30-60km/h zone a 30 day impound (whether a cop or speed camera gives you the ticket), with a 30 day suspension if caught by the cop for the driver as well. Now that would have been progress.

 

[ReSTored]

The 40 over threshold for roads < 8o kph and 50 over threshold for all others would make complete sense if speed limits were reasonable vs. being driven by local politicians and dated reasoning.

Cruising speed on the 100 kph limit 407 across the GTA is 125 - 135, yet just 15 kph more would result is a stunt driving charge. This makes no sense.

Rural speed limits are usually 80 kph, but anyone actually doing this limit almost always has a long line of frustrated drivers behind them.

Anyone one doing 80 kph in a 40 kph school zone deserves everything they get and I'd say the threshold should be lower, maybe 60 - 70 kph.

The super speeders, the people caught doing 175+++ kph in mom's BMW fall into a special class IMO. These folks should have a roadside consequences of .................

Just for discussion (or ranting and raving) purposes................

1st Offence
Speed over......Vehicle Seizure / License Suspension / Minimum Fine if Convicted / Jail Time
40 - 50..............14 days / 30 days / $2,000 / None
75.......................30 / 45 / $5,000 / 7 days
100....................60 / 60 / $6,000 / 14
125....................90 / 90 / $10,000 / 21
150....................120 / 120 / $15,000 / 30
175....................150 / 150 / $20,000 / 45
200+.................180 / 365 / $25,000 / 60

2nd Offence
Speed over......Vehicle Seizure / License Suspension / Minimum Fine if Convicted / Jail Time
40 - 50..............30 days / 180 days / $5,000 / 7 Days
75........................60 / 180 / $6,000 / 14
100.....................Forfeiture / 365 / $10,000 / 30
125.....................Forfeiture / 365 / $15,000 / 45
150.....................Forfeiture / 365 / $20,000 / 60
175.....................Forfeiture / 365 / $25,000 / 75
200+..................Forfeiture / 2 years / $25,000 / 90

 

[FullMotoJacket]

Huh?

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Flamborough is under Hamiton's jurisdiction

 

[FullMotoJacket]

Meanwhile in the Niagara Region, sensible heads prevail.

 

[Dimitri]

Rural speed limits are usually 80 kph, but anyone actually doing this limit almost always has a long line of frustrated drivers behind them.them.

Just because people want to go as fast as possible doesn't mean we should allow it. And for what to beat someone to the next red light? No thanks.

On say a 50km/h city area, doing 60km/h over a 10km trip potentially saves you a grand total of 3 minutes on a 20 minute trip.

If those 3 minutes of your life are worth the $180 ticket more power to you.

 

[FullMotoJacket]

Just because people want to go as fast as possible doesn't mean we should allow it. And for what to beat someone to the next red light? No thanks.

On say a 50km/h city area, doing 60km/h over a 10km trip potentially saves you a grand total of 3 minutes on a 20 minute trip.

If those 3 minutes of your life are worth the $180 ticket more power to you.

 

[ChrisCBR]

What this law really should have done, is made going 20km/h over in any 30-60km/h zone a 30 day impound (whether a cop or speed camera gives you the ticket), with a 30 day suspension if caught by the cop for the driver as well. Now that would have been progress.

50 in a 30 or 80 in a 60 results in a 30 day impound? Complete nonsense.

If this province truly wants to create safer roads they need to make getting a license much harder.
They need to go after people on their phones, people who run red lights, people who dont merge properly, people who hog the left lane.
Not go after people doing 80 in a 60 zone that clearly should be a 70 or 80 zone.
Our highways have laughably low limits. The limit should be 110-120 on the 401 and 140 on the 407.

That being said, anyone who drives 40+ over in residential or a school zone should lose their license.

 

[FullMotoJacket]

Not go after people doing 80 in a 60 zone that clearly should be a 70 or 80 zone.

^------ This. QFT.

 

[AllistonGT]

Rural Roads in Ontario, with speed limits of 80km/h are the only place in the world you'll find stop signs that are 4 foot in diameter too. Due to the excessive amount of running them because "I didn't see the sign officer" while speeding.

And the British seem to manage those same intersections with yield signs. I hate driving here after returning from the UK.

 

[Dimitri]

50 in a 30 or 80 in a 60 results in a 30 day impound? Complete nonsense.

Going 26km/h over the limit results in a 1 month suspension in Germany.

Kraftfahrt-Bundesamt - Zentrale Register - Bundeseinheitlicher Tatbestandskatalog - 12. Auflage

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www.kba.de

All these people crying over the regulations keep saying "but it's unfair!" and keep demanding European highway limits. So let's import their laws too.

And the British seem to manage those same intersections with yield signs. I hate driving here after returning from the UK.

It's a "me first" cultural issue here. And drivers seem to be the biggest babies about it.

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