Car Accident

So Im going over the report, accident happened on Oct 30, written down is Oct 23....how dose that happen??
Also, first car had more then one occupant in it, but written down is 1?

Any way of using this mis-information? Im looking it over and over looking for more errors.
lol
you're reaching lol
 
you're reaching lol

No sure what you mean? Looking for excuses maybe??

Im using whatever I can to help me - I'm not going to roll over, I'll defend myself using what I need to in this situation :)
 
No sure what you mean? Looking for excuses maybe??

Im using whatever I can to help me - I'm not going to roll over, I'll defend myself using what I need to in this situation :)

Ya excuses

Instead of admitting you made a mistake you're looking for any way out
But hey thats todays society, zero responsibility


Hey try this one, when one guy hit me from behind he claimed i was drunk at the moment...might work for you, didnt quite work for him and he just got another charge on top of it all hahaha
 
YOU would do the exact same thing!

No i wouldnt. I ****ed up twice in my life, first i gave one lady 1600$ and change for her damage, other dude gave him $1000. It hurt to give that much cash but when you make a mistake you gotta man up and do it.

Btw both of those cars had about 100 bucks worth of damage, but both took me to the cleaners cause i admitted i was at fault and would pay for the damage hahaha
 
No i wouldnt. I ****ed up twice in my life, first i gave one lady 1600$ and change for her damage, other dude gave him $1000. It hurt to give that much cash but when you make a mistake you gotta man up and do it.

Btw both of those cars had about 100 bucks worth of damage, but both took me to the cleaners cause i admitted i was at fault and would pay for the damage hahaha

Dam. Ever situations different. The guy I hit, he didn't have any damage to his truck at all - he had a massive hitch sticking out and that's what I hit and lodged into my grill etc "saved" me from damaging his bumper and lights. we agreed on $300, that's it. He didn't go through insurance because it would screw him over even more then benefit him.

I don't care paying up for damages I caused in any situation (broken windows and other things before peoples houses playing road hockey and some other stuff a few years back) but I will try anything to get rid of a careless charged.
 
Dam. Ever situations different. The guy I hit, he didn't have any damage to his truck at all - he had a massive hitch sticking out and that's what I hit and lodged into my grill etc "saved" me from damaging his bumper and lights. we agreed on $300, that's it. He didn't go through insurance because it would screw him over even more then benefit him.

I don't care paying up for damages I caused in any situation (broken windows and other things before peoples houses playing road hockey and some other stuff a few years back) but I will try anything to get rid of a careless charged.

Fair enough, but is tailgating someone to the point where you couldnt stop safely not careless driving to you?
 
tailgating

Define in car lengths or (m) or (ft)

4 car lengths 30m or 90ft + isnt tailgating for me. When your driving along, and all of a sudden you see the trunk and back wheels of a car/truck come up, with no brake lights at approx 45km/h, process it, and react (happens so quick and I was probably slow to analyze it all - mind you I took a quick glance to my right side mirror to swerve but there was a red ford escape there) and then slammed on my brakes with only about 2 car lengths away and skid in...

The cop said he could write "following to close" but since my car was damaged and couldn't be drivable he had to put "careless"
Even with the pick-up drivers story of him hitting the first car and then a second after I hit him....the cop was somehow there and saw it ALL.....he put it to me this way and how he reconstructed the scene.

"Car 1 safely stopped with a signal and was waiting for a left turn on the side street. Car 2 also safely stopped behind Car 1. You, Car 3 came in and hit the Car 2 (pick-up truck), impacting it and thus impacting Car 1 in a chain reaction...

All I said was - yea, explain how Car 1 is four car lengths away from the pick up trucks front bumper? - Physics, impossible.
I'll have my deference for all of there arguments - that's all I can do :cool:
 
Define in car lengths or (m) or (ft)

4 car lengths 30m or 90ft + isnt tailgating for me. When your driving along, and all of a sudden you see the trunk and back wheels of a car/truck come up, with no brake lights at approx 45km/h, process it, and react (happens so quick and I was probably slow to analyze it all - mind you I took a quick glance to my right side mirror to swerve but there was a red ford escape there) and then slammed on my brakes with only about 2 car lengths away and skid in...

The cop said he could write "following to close" but since my car was damaged and couldn't be drivable he had to put "careless"
Even with the pick-up drivers story of him hitting the first car and then a second after I hit him....the cop was somehow there and saw it ALL.....he put it to me this way and how he reconstructed the scene.

"Car 1 safely stopped with a signal and was waiting for a left turn on the side street. Car 2 also safely stopped behind Car 1. You, Car 3 came in and hit the Car 2 (pick-up truck), impacting it and thus impacting Car 1 in a chain reaction...

All I said was - yea, explain how Car 1 is four car lengths away from the pick up trucks front bumper? - Physics, impossible.
I'll have my deference for all of there arguments - that's all I can do :cool:

Doesnt matter how many car lengths you were behind, obviously if you hit the guy in front of you it means you were too close. Good news is they'll probably feel sorry for you and give you a lesser charge. You're still making excuses lol
 
"Car 1 safely stopped with a signal and was waiting for a left turn on the side street. Car 2 also safely stopped behind Car 1. You, Car 3 came in and hit the Car 2 (pick-up truck), impacting it and thus impacting Car 1 in a chain reaction...

All I said was - yea, explain how Car 1 is four car lengths away from the pick up trucks front bumper? - Physics, impossible.
I'll have my deference for all of there arguments - that's all I can do :cool:

The cop's words don't help you at all.

According to the conclusions one would arrive at hearing the cop's words, the truck was already safely (as in it had not hit anything) stopped when you ran into it. Not only were you tailgating close enough that you ran into the back of the already-stopped truck, but you managed to hit the truck hard enough to push it into the back of the car in front of it. That suggests that your braking was either seriously delayed due to inattention (careless driving), or you were following much closer than just somewhat too close (careless driving again), or both.

The car being 4 car lengths ahead of the truck is easily explained. The driver was sitting there stopped with foot either only lightly on the brake or foot right off the brake while waiting for an opportunbity to turn. Even a light hit in such circumstances could send it a few car lengths ahead, especially if the vehicle doing the hitting was a heavier vehicle.
 
The car being 4 car lengths ahead of the truck is easily explained. The driver was sitting there stopped with foot either only lightly on the brake or foot right off the brake while waiting for an opportunbity to turn. Even a light hit in such circumstances could send it a few car lengths ahead, especially if the vehicle doing the hitting was a heavier vehicle.

Yep, I was hoping no one brought that up lol. As long as the judge, jury etc aren't as smart as you turbo, I should be fine ;)

Written documents from truck driver (car 2) stating he hit the car infront of him and car 1 ended up 4 car lengths in front and then felt me hit him.

I hit him after - My impact could not have transferred force to the pick-up as my front hood lodged under his hitch to the car infront if indeed the pick-up stopped a distance that was safe behind car 1

Im looking it up still and going to the manufacture to see there crash test numbers for airbag deployment. Mine didnt go off (seeing some numbers of anywhere from 28-40km/h). When I get this number I'll know at how many km/h they would go off and take the highest km/h just below them going off and use that in a physics calculation of basically speed, force, distances and voila should workout that it would be impossible anyhow. Numbers don't lie
 
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Your hood being under his bumper doesn't mean that you couldn't have pushed him in the process.

Also, if your hood lodged UNDER his bumper, there's a good chance that the impact sensors usually located behind the bumper would have no reason to trigger the airbags.

Even an accelerometer sensor might not trigger your airbags, especially if the truck also did not have his brakes on. You could hit a parked car dead on at 40 kmph and still not trigger an airbag. You running under his back bumper and not directly into it would have the effect of further easing the rate of hard stop, possibly below the threshold of your airbag accelerometer trigger mechanism.
 
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Your hood being under his bumper doesn't mean that you couldn't have pushed him in the process.

Also, if your hood lodged UNDER his bumper, there's a good chance that the impact sensors usually located behind the bumper would have no reason to trigger the airbags.

Even an accelerometer sensor might not trigger your airbags, especially if the truck also did not have his brakes on. You could hit a parked car dead on at 40 kmph and still not trigger an airbag. You running under his back bumper and not directly into it would have the effect of further easing the rate of hard stop, possibly below the threshold of your airbag accelerometer trigger mechanism.

Uh, can you stopped looking things up - I know your not pulling these answers outta your *** lol - Once again I always know the arguments against my arguments, Im just hoping no one thinks of them and brings them up ;) - Meh, I like that people bring up things so I can try and counter them if they do come up later. It will come down to doing this all in court and whats on here doesn't matter because your nobodies (sorry no offense, but it's good that everyone adds in their 2cents nevertheless)
 
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Hire some one to fight this one for you. Lot more serious then speeding. Clearly you're not telling us everything, just what you want us to know so you can hear what you want to hear and turbo figured you out. My guess is you will get screwed if you fight it alone.
Uh, can you stopped looking things up - I know your not pulling these answers outta your @$$ lol - Once again I always know the arguments against my arguments, Im just hoping no one thinks of them and brings them up ;) - Meh, I like that people bring up things so I can try and counter them if they do come up later. It will come down to doing this all in court and whats on here doesn't matter because your nobodies (sorry no offense, but it's good that everyone adds in their 2cents nevertheless)
 
Hire some one to fight this one for you. Lot more serious then speeding. Clearly you're not telling us everything, just what you want us to know so you can hear what you want to hear and turbo figured you out. My guess is you will get screwed if you fight it alone.

I wanted to see if anyone actually can counter my arguments. I was actually waiting for him (turbo) to pop up and "make me think more" and counter my words. - Like I said, nothing to prove on here, just seeing what people would come up with.
Talked to a few places, redline will be dealt with on Monday - I am hiring someone btw.
 
Uh, can you stopped looking things up - I know your not pulling these answers outta your *** lol - Once again I always know the arguments against my arguments, Im just hoping no one thinks of them and brings them up ;) - Meh, I like that people bring up things so I can try and counter them if they do come up later. It will come down to doing this all in court and whats on here doesn't matter because your nobodies (sorry no offense, but it's good that everyone adds in their 2cents nevertheless)

None of this is rocket science. I don't need to look this up. Neither would any traffic cop worth his salt.
 
None of this is rocket science. I don't need to look this up. Neither would any traffic cop worth his salt.

I'll give you a bit of credit because you make points in threads and counter things pretty good, but you look things up. Yea, majority of cops these days don't know what they're doing. "O I'll be right back, (goes and check his little book) blah, blah, blah. Ok. How about this.......Gimme a sec (i need to go to my cruiser, checks his book again) to answer your question now, blah, blah - Basically I've talked with probably the worst cops over recent years that can represent the police service, that's how I judge all cops now. (sure they stereotype me based on dress, attitude, etc so I look at them as all the same)
 

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