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3 cars...

Car 1 misses a side street that it wanted to turn into - no signal, and braked hard and ended up stopping 1 car length or more after the street .....Car 1 is an =

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Car 2 hits Car 1....+

Car 3 hits Car 2....@

No injuries. So who "caused" the accident and what were the "effects"
 
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Car 2 rear ended, so it would likely their fault. Not sure what charge would be whipped up, possibly following too close.

Edit: Car 3 will likely catch it too.
 
Car 1 should have just gone up as bit further and turned around up the street to come back. By stopping abruptly they might have created the situation that caused the crash to happen, but they're not quite at fault for the resulting crashes because the rear-enders should not have happened no matter what the reason for Car 1 stopping..

Car 2 is responsible for the first crash for following Car 1 too close and not paying attention when Car 1 stopped.

Car 3 is responsible for the chain reaction crash for following Car 2 too close.
 
Car 1 should have just gone up as bit further and turned around up the street to come back. By stopping abruptly they might have created the situation that caused the crash to happen, but they're not quite at fault for the resulting crashes because the rear-enders should not have happened no matter what the reason for Car 1 stopping..

Car 2 is responsible for the first crash for following Car 1 too close and not paying attention when Car 1 stopped.

Car 3 is responsible for the chain reaction crash for following Car 2 too close.
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I see, and the other post make sense. Thanks for that link as well Rob.

Forgot to add - its a 50km/h zone. Furthermore, new information is coming out. Car one lives on the street they missed and must of had a brain fart and stopped after the street (as turbo said, they can be somewhat at fault because they should have continued up the street instead of abruptly braking that "caused" the crash as they knowingly wanted to go on the street but miss judged.

Car 2 hits car 1 without even braking in, no brake lights come on, no skid marks

Thus Car 3 never see brakes (about 3 or so car lengths behind (18ft lets say), sees car 2 back end tilt up from hitting 1, about 2.5 car lengths left hit/locks the brakes and skid into car 2.

Anyone view things differently? Can we say Car 1 is at fault for knowingly missing the street, no signal, abruptly stopping and should have continued up the street but didn't causing the accident.
Car 2 is at fault for hitting Car 1.
Car 3 at fault for hitting Car 2
33% at fault each party?
 
You have to be prepared to stop for the vehicle in front of you to suddenly stop, at all times, that's the bottom line.
 
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Anyone view things differently? Can we say Car 1 is at fault for knowingly missing the street, no signal, abruptly stopping and should have continued up the street but didn't causing the accident.
Car 2 is at fault for hitting Car 1.
Car 3 at fault for hitting Car 2
33% at fault each party?
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No. Car 1 may have set the events in motion by stopping unexpectedly, but the others should have been prepared to stop if the car in front stops for any reason at all. Unless Car 1 deliberately jammed on the brakes to cause a crash, Car 1 is off the hook. Remaining fault will probably be as follows - Car 2 is 50% at fault, Car 3 is 100% at fault.
 
Ok got it.

Last few questions. Car 2 was a pick up that car 3 hit. Pick ups damage is a few scratches and a dent in the right side bumper, about the size of a fist that some one could have punched in lol - so damage is nothing at all.

No need / Wont go through insurance for like $300 max for a bumper because then insurance will fix it but then premiums increase, right?

Car 3 that hit truck is a write off, its an 2000 saturn that's only worth $2000 if that and the hood, lights, bumper are done so parts and labor are more then its worth pretty much. (dont ask how truck got nothing and this car got the worst of it, just the law of big is stronger lol) There was no collision on the Car 3. So owner is going to just buy a new cheap car again. Dose insurance need to be called and told that it was in an accident and there will be no need for insurance on it anymore or can they call and just take off insurance because since there was no collision insurance on it they don't need to say why.
 
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Ok got it.

Last few questions. Car 2 was a pick up that car 3 hit. Pick ups damage is a few scratches and a dent in the right side bumper, about the size of a fist that some one could have punched in lol - so damage is nothing at all.

No need / Wont go through insurance for like $300 max for a bumper because then insurance will fix it but then premiums increase, right?

Car 3 that hit truck is a write off, its an 2000 saturn that's only worth $2000 if that and the hood, lights, bumper are done so parts and labor are more then its worth pretty much. (dont ask how truck got nothing and this car got the worst of it, just the law of big is stronger lol) There was no collision on the Car 3. So owner is going to just buy a new cheap car again. Dose insurance need to be called and told that it was in an accident and there will be no need for insurance on it anymore or can they call and just take off insurance because since there was no collision insurance on it they don't need to say why.
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As soon as One car reports it to the police or insurance, All cars will be notified to come and tell their side of the story, then a decision will be made, and I would assume it will be on Car 2 and Car 3's Drivers Abstract as a 50% At Fault accident each.
 
People miss their turns all the time and stop suddenly, you have to be ready for it and give yourself enough room to stop. Driving school 101, the person in back who hits the first vehicle is always at fault, following too closely.
 
And this is why you dont tailgate. But who am i kidding, this is toronto, land of retarded drivers...
 
No. Car 2 is off the hook only if Car 2 was already safely stopped behind (but not into) Car 1 before Car 3 came along.
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Car 2 was not safely stopped, it hit the car infront and 2 sec later 3 hits.

People miss their turns all the time and stop suddenly, you have to be ready for it and give yourself enough room to stop. Driving school 101, the person in back who hits the first vehicle is always at fault, following too closely.
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So one can just "mis a stop" and F people over then eh?

And this is why you dont tailgate. But who am i kidding, this is toronto, land of retarded drivers...
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4 car lengths ain't tailgating and when there is no brake lights that come on - on the car in front how do you know they're braking? Not in T.O btw.

Yea I got the worst of it - Careless slapped on me. Apparently if I'm charged and I don't wanna pay the fines, I'll go to jail for a bit...I think I'd rather kill someone, at least then that make sense or I might even get off with that. Meh, we'll see - and not guilty for another few months or maybe a good year or so :eek: for now
 
doesnt make a difference why they stopped, what if they had a medical emergency, or a kid ran in front of the car? they stop in time and you rear and them and end the kids life.
you ****ed up, take it as a life lesson, next time leave plenty of space for the unexpected to happen.
 
You can`t blame the accident on Car 1 stopping.. What if a kid had ran onto the street and Car 1 had to stop? Would you still blame Car 1 for stopping and causing the accident? Bottom line is, you need to be aware of what is in front of you and drive accordingly. Car 2 needs to be following at a distance from which he/she can react and stop the car in time.
 
Yea life happends, things are actually being dealt with today. Turns out new evidence is making my situation lighter. I bought a contour this year exactly for these situations and the 2 times I needed it I don't have it - dam charging on my desk at home :mad:
 
So Im going over the report, accident happened on Oct 30, written down is Oct 23....how dose that happen??
Also, first car had more then one occupant in it, but written down is 1?

Any way of using this mis-information? Im looking it over and over looking for more errors.
 
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